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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    I love talking about training man...don't sweat that. I meant off topic stuff, ya know? Just to keep the log filled with some substance....

    But I like it. I used to do Bis with Chest and Tris with Back...

    Let me know how it works out for ya.
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    alright thanks Iron, I will be here and I am looking forward to seeing great results in this log.
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    quick update....cuz im pissed. I bought a sweet pill holder from REI that holds a week worth of all my supplements and lost it. So there goes a week of jungle warfare.

    i can't understand what happened to it...im pissed.
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    Chad's log is boss fwiw.

    PI, how are your calories looking? Above or below maintenance? I assume your running this to gain mass but I noticed you seem to be relatively lean throughout your last couple of logs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    Chad's log is boss fwiw.

    PI, how are your calories looking? Above or below maintenance? I assume your running this to gain mass but I noticed you seem to be relatively lean throughout your last couple of logs.
    Food for thought: How many calories above maintanence (if any) are necessary to build musclemass?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    quick update....cuz im pissed. I bought a sweet pill holder from REI that holds a week worth of all my supplements and lost it. So there goes a week of jungle warfare.

    i can't understand what happened to it...im pissed.


    I thought JW was an anti-estrogen.

    J/K bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Food for thought: How many calories above maintanence (if any) are necessary to build musclemass?
    Isnt that different for everyone? If not, please tell me and I will eat that amount
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    As most people are striving for the ever infamous "lean" bulk, 500 calories above maintenance is what I usually aim for. This puts me at about 3,500 above maintenance for week.

    If you want to gain body weight, you must consume more calories than you burn. One pound of body weight is roughly equivalent to 3500 calories, so eating an extra 500 calories per day will cause you to gain one pound a week.
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    I don't know if it will cause you to gain 1lb per week, but it does make for a pretty nice recomp effect.

    I take in somewhere around 3500~3700 cals per day. I'd like to put on a few more lbs before August. I'm going to be doing some fun stuff that month...

    But yea, I like to stay lean, sub 10% always. This will be no different.
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    Oh, and I realized that since there are 2 extra days of JW in the bottle and I only had enough through sunday in the case, that I actually only lost 3 days of JW...it still blows but what can ya do?


    Quick update (day 3):

    Nothing really to report about JW, but my new routine is killing me. I feel to the floor after my 3rd exercise out of 4...
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    sounds good Iron...that routine looked pretty brutal. i am sure once the jungle warfare starts to really kick in, your recovery and stamina will be through the roof.

    also what macro breakdown do you usually go with - 40/40/20? Just curious...
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    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
    also what macro breakdown do you usually go with - 40/40/20? Just curious...

    He said 55/35/20 earlier, but that equals 110.


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    Usually 50/35/15...
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    Quote Originally Posted by r6samson View Post
    He said 55/35/20 earlier, but that equals 110.


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    I can't add...sorry.

    My post above plus some previous thread I've posted my exact diet and macro breakdown.

    I can find the link if you guys want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    I can't add...sorry.

    My post above plus some previous thread I've posted my exact diet and macro breakdown.

    I can find the link if you guys want.

    Ha, it's cool. I just figured it was like your overall outlook on life and always gave 110%.


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    Also, since you are sub 10% bf right now, did you ever do a cut to get down that low and then just lean bulk after that? The reason I ask is because I want to take that same approach and stay lean, but the only thing is I am holding a little extra bf around the stomach area from beer drinking , that I have since stopped. So if I just start eating clean now will this problem take care of itself, or should I cut first then start from scratch?

    I hope that all made since...

    My stats are 6'0 185lb. ~ 13%bf <-guesstimation
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    Well, you're not heavy. 185 is a nice weight if you carry it well. If I were you, I wouldn't cut. I'd just eat clean, lift hard, and maybe throw in a day or two of cardio per week.

    I never cut. Not yet in my entire life. I will though soon though. 220lbs by the end of the year and then cutting back to light-heavy early next year. At least that is the goal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    Isnt that different for everyone? If not, please tell me and I will eat that amount
    Hahaha. That was a rhetorical question. But yeah, it varies by person, and it varies even more when you're 'chemically enhanced'. Don't think of anabolics as building muscle so much as increasing the chances that excess calories are stored as muscle. That being said, you can still put on a significant amount of mass and not gain that much bodyfat.
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    PI, keep it up
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    Iron, what type of cardio do you recommend? I have heard fasted before, and HIIT, and many others... In any opinions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
    Iron, what type of cardio do you recommend? I have heard fasted before, and HIIT, and many others... In any opinions?
    Well, I don't do cardio. Except the 5 minutes of slow bike work I do to warmup before training.

    I believe in slow sustained cardio, especially in the morning. That is, when I used to do it, and when I will start doing it again... just thinking of it makes me sad.
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    Quick update...

    I feel great. My mood is sky high. Things that would piss me off a week ago just...well...don't

    And I'm 1lb. to 206.
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    Looks solid PI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiquitous View Post
    Looks solid PI.
    Whats up bud...jump over to my training log in one of the forums...look at how weak I am...

    I'm gonna shoot you a PM in a bit, so keep an eye out for it.
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    Hey guys...not the best weekend. Personal/Family issues.

    Diet was outta wack, sleep was messed up.

    Stuck with the supplementation and was able to get a workout in Monday. It wasn't the best.

    My BW is up to 207~8...and I look decent, so maybe it's not all bad.

    I'm going to be able to eat well this week, until I head to NC. And I will try and eat well down there too, atleast the best as I can. I'll get to workout with one of my boys that I haven't seen in a bit, so I have my fingers crossed for Friday's workout.
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    pssh I barely worked out since I got that food poisoning. You're doing far better than I my friend.
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    Thanks Ubi...never had food poisoning but i've seen a few friends turn white from it and head to the ER...can get pretty scare when your body just wants to get everything out as quickly as possible.

    What'd you eat?

    On another note...I had a pretty good workout yesterday. Intensity really wasn't there but I made myself get through it and I had a much better Tuesday workout than last...
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    It's been a while, huh?

    Heres an update:

    -Started BAM @ 2 caps/day yesterday.
    -BW is at 207~8
    -Even after eating like garbage this weekend while I was on vacation in NC, I look pretty good.

    ...I'm back in the gym today, sun burn and all.

    -No negative sides whatsoever.
    -Mood is still absolutely stellar.
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    Update (6/22):

    BW is up to 209~210
    I am very hyped up about this!!!
    I haven't seen those numbers on the scale in a LONG time.

    Sleep has been great all but last night. I woke up not refreshed. I'm hoping this is just a fluke though.

    Workouts are going great, again all but yesterday were I had a severe lack of energy. Again, I am hoping this is a fluke.

    Other than this, no bad sides.

    Muscle bodies are fuller, vascularity is about the same.

    Lifts are slowly creeping up.

    ...will update again soon.
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    just noticed your log. interested to see the result of the pro-anabol. I was one of the JW/BAM/Restore testers and loved the clean side free results. definetly up for giving this a try a few months down the road.
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    Quick update on my physical stats...either click on my training log in my sig and read through it...

    or click here to go straigh to my stats
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    Update (6/26):

    I am into my 4th week now.

    I am up to 210~11 lbs

    I am holding quite a bit more water. I am attributing this to the BAM. Nothing really major, I am just carrying more water than I am used to.
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    Update (7/2):

    Final rundown of JW:
    I love this stuff. Mood was stellar. I was stronger and bigger on it. My workouts were amazing. I didn't begin to hold any excess water until I started BAM.

    Overall: 9/10...it was that good.



    Currently taking 1 BAM and 1 Pro-Anabol with meals 1 and 5.

    I am still sitting at 210lbs with a little extra water. No big changes with the first week of PA.

    I will update again soon.
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    i like the JW for sure as well. BAM didn't seem to do much for me. like to see how it works with the Pro-Anabol however.
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    I didnt notice much from JW, things for me really started to kick in when i was overlapping the BAM and restore....unfortunately Pro-A wasnt available when i used the evo stack.
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    Update 7/9:

    Bodyweight Down to 208.
    I am most definitely holding more water than I am used to.

    I had a small training injury on wednesday (back went out) that prevented me from going to the gym the ret of the week.

    I am changing things up today. Starting a transitional program for the next few weeks. Just an average split with a little cardio thrown in. I will update later with the breakdown.

    As far as the Stack is going, I am seeing limited benifit. JW was awesome, but since I stopped taking it, the BAM/PA overlap peroid hasn't seen to do all the much for me.

    Only a few more days until I drop BAM and start Restore, I love 6-bromo..
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    7/16

    Random update:

    I have begun taking Restore @ 3 caps per day and have boosted Pro-Anabol to 3 caps for a day for the remainder of the bottle.

    I'm planning on giving my overall impression of the indvidual compounds and overlaps, as well as the entire stack within the last week.

    Right now, I am feeling very nice. Pro-Anabol seems to give me a very nice overall feeling. I like it, I must say, I'll be sad to have ended the bottle...

    My BW is back up to around 210...I'm still holding a little water, but not quite as much as with BAM...which leads me to believe that PA is slightly wet, but not very.

    I look very good...muscularity, vascularity is extremely good...and as a suprise, seperation, especially in my legs, is getting better.
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    I forgot to mention...FnF, I'm getting a little chilly over here without my ALRI shirt...



    ...and if there is anyway you can shoot me over a bottle of JW or Restore instead of BAM, that would be amazing...
  

  
 

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