USPLabs Cissus Mega dose log
06-15-2006 07:38 AM
Day 22: Figured I post up since I will be gone most of the weekend and will most likely not be working out until Sunday. I took Day 21 off, walked 1.5 miles but that was it. Today I did a quick shoulder/Tri workout no real changes, still getting nice pumps but I'm not seeing anything worth writing about. I'll be doing a MBike trip on Sat and then it's legs on Sunday, I plan on doing some heavy lifting next week if I'm feeling it, and maybe pull back on the cardio for the first half of the week.
06-17-2006 07:01 PM
Originally Posted by Basso
well with all that extra loot coming in over there im sure you wouldnt mind.
just send them to work u know the addy
just waiting on nutraplanet to get the Phera in then its go time:bruce1: :bb2:
06-19-2006 08:56 AM
Day 26: I didn't make it to the gym on Sunday, my legs were thrashed from the ride Sat, and I left a lot of skin on the mountain, so I rested. Hit legs today and it went fairly well, still noticing a lot of strength loss from the diet. I went raw up to 405 for 3x5 and then did front squats with 225 for 3x15. Hit my bis a little, the pumps are still killer but other then that no changes.
The biggest thing is that my weight is still at 240lbs and I've been staying under 2700cals almost every day! I haven't really noticed to many body changes in the past few days, hopefully I lose a little more fat before I take pics again this weekend.
I'll be doing chest tomorrow and back on wed, thursday I'm working 12-14 hrs so it will be a day off and hopefully Fri I'll get off early enough to get another workout in. I plan on taking measurements, pics etc on Saturday. I'm going to continue Cissus at probably 4-6 caps and start a Melting Point/Basic Cuts run for awhile, hopefully that will kick start some fat loss, if not I have some trn/zol growing old in my cabinet.
06-21-2006 08:11 AM
Looks like tomorrow will be my last day, I'm going to nights and will be working 12s through the weekend so I won't have time to go to the gym or measurements etc. So tomorrow I'll wrap it up with Post pics and measurements and my final thoughts etc.
Day 27: Chest, finally the strength is coming back, BP 315x6, 345x6x2, 2boards 365x5x2, 3boards 365x5x1, 315x8.
Incline DB press 115x8x3
Did some other boob stuff and Tris, went well, I am starting to feel like my body is getting used to the diet, this stack is helping alot. I did lower the Cissus down to 9 for the past couple days due to aching joints (just a guess).
Day 28: Back
Bentover rows 225x10, 275x6, 315x6x2
Cable rows 3x10
DB Rows 150s x8x3
I'm really feeling good after 3 days of 9 cissus my joints feel great and my strength continues to improve. The past 2 days the pumps have been unbelievable! It lasts a good 30-60 minutes after the w/o!
Tomorrow I'll wait about 4hrs after I wake up and do measurements and pics, I'm still carry plenty of fat but this has been a great 4 weeks and I feel like I've made some serious progress without sacrificing very much (food).
06-21-2006 10:23 PM
Ok it's over, I'm posting a couple after pics as close to the before positions as I can get so you can see the difference. The pics don't really show the changes like I'd hoped but the measurements give a good indication on how it went, so here they are
Before:5'9" 245lbs, 20-21%BF
After:Still 5'9" 238lbs, 18%BF (5 measurements all 18-18.3%)
Total 7lbs and around 2%BF loss! If my calculations are correct the 7lbs was almost entirely FAT! Just for info I started cutting in April at 256lbs.
Final thoughts: I felt the Megadose protocol was very helpful in maintaining LBM while cutting, the addition of symmetry didn't help with strength as much as I anticipated until the last couple of days. I will do this again, but will make some changes in dosing and length. Doms for the most part was unaffected, I did notice some increase but I can't attribute it to the stack.
Recommendations: The last days joints started to ache, but when reducing Cissus to 9caps the aches cleared. Due to my experience in this cycle, the next cycle I do will look like this
Cissus 12caps 1-3 / 9caps wk4 / 6caps 5-6
Symmetry 8caps 4-6
I think this combo has great potential and would make an excellent bridge between cycles, or as a stand alone. While I used it cutting I think it would make a nice addition to a clean bulk also.
I highly recommend this stack, it's affordable and effective. I would like to once again thank USPlabs for allowing me the opportunity to run this log, it has been very rewarding and while I have a long way to go these 4 wks have been a great start to attaining my goals.
If anyone has questions I didn't answer please feel free to ask. Monday I start MP/BC 6 weeker, then I may jump into Mtrn/zol stack, hopefully I'll be at 10%bf by Sep, then I can start working on getting my power back! I will never, never, never again do all-out bulks, at my age it is way to difficult to drop the fat. Clean bulks from here on out!
Thanks for watching
Last edited by Basso; 08-12-2006 at 03:58 AM.
06-22-2006 12:48 PM
Great log, very informative. Looks like the mega dosing did you well. Do you think the amount of Cissus you were taking had some effect on your cortisol levels, thus the achy joints? I've been on Cissus for a month, 4 caps a day. Love the healing effect for my joints, good stuff. Just started stacking it with PowerFULL, so we'll see how that works.
06-22-2006 04:14 PM
Pop-Lock champion of 84'
Nice log Basso - nice prgress on the cut too -
The aches are from lowered cortisol - I hd the same results with the aches and I am dieting as well. I think it's just the active ingredient in cissus and since symetry is a concentrated dose - you have an abundance if not too much "active ingredient" in you at one time. I've yet to read any lowering cortisol properties on cissus but I don't think anyone had done this much at this time. Again not 100% but 2 of us had the same results have to be somewhat close to that theory.
06-22-2006 05:17 PM
Yeh I tend to agree, like you I was fine when I was warmed up etc. in the morning I felt like I was 60, well I don't really knooow what 60 feels like but you get the point. After dropping a few caps I was amazed that in 3 days I felt so much better, so I definitely think it was a little over the edge.
Interesting point: I have been awake for 24 hrs as I write this and my joints are feeling great, normally when I'm this tired my bones feel old, so the effects of the stack where very positive, I just think I need to lower the dose when stacked.
06-22-2006 06:23 PM
Wow. Really nice size! Keep it up
06-22-2006 09:40 PM
awww 12 hrs a day lol. i know what that means. only 11 months left big guy
06-23-2006 12:04 AM
Thanks, that's my plan
Originally Posted by jjohn
I-vtec, it's not 11 months, its 45 weeks (who's counting). I'll probably see you sooner though, eh?
06-23-2006 12:22 AM
This has really convinced me to mega-dose cissus to continue my cut once i get off my Test Prop and Tren Ace in a couple weeks. I'm already down 15lbs but i wanna get STUPID cut, lol. I think i may do powerful+cissus though.
06-23-2006 12:37 AM
Good luck, that will be a nice stack coming off that cycle, you know USPlabs is providing Cissus in bulk to Nutraplanet mine is on the way, will make mega dosing very reasonable!
Originally Posted by CHAPS
06-23-2006 09:46 PM
I will do some symmetry and JW after my log. Kind of dont want to get off x-factor, lol, but I have 15 days left, so I'd better enjoy them.. Anyways.. keep it up bro!
06-25-2006 08:56 AM
Originally Posted by Basso
Now that im SrA prob. so but i hope your wrong. they already have taken half the shop come feb.
one more week til phera run.
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