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    don't know how i forgot this....it has been very cold out here in indiana, when my package came it had sat on my porch for at least 2 hours in the cold. formestane has a rep for being hard to keep in solution, especially when cold...

    before applying formasurge i put a coffe cup around half full in microwave for 2 minutes[until boiling] then dropped the formasurge in it for around 3-4 minutes, then shook like hell....i recommend this to everyone, but in paticular those who live in cold winter climates!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    don't know how i forgot this....it has been very cold out here in indiana, when my package came it had sat on my porch for at least 2 hours in the cold. formestane has a rep for being hard to keep in solution, especially when cold...

    before applying formasurge i put a coffe cup around half full in microwave for 2 minutes[until boiling] then dropped the formasurge in it for around 3-4 minutes, then shook like hell....i recommend this to everyone, but in paticular those who live in cold winter climates!!!
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    Good advice.
    i just want every to get the most out of formasurge, i love the stuff!!!
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    I'm subbing, as I am REALLY interested in adding Formasurge to an upcoming run of Endosurge Turbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post
    I'm subbing, as I am REALLY interested in adding Formasurge to an upcoming run of Endosurge Turbo
    welcome....any questions, ask away!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    welcome....any questions, ask away!!!
    hey, misfit...i just noticed those avi pics, that is awesome. also saw you are running dcp 2.0, you should start a log, it would be motivation for you, and for others...that is some great progress, congrats!!!

    repped!!!!

    btw-i will be running formasurge/dcp 2.0/vanillean next month.
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    I used Formestane last year, if only to try it out and see how well I'd respond. Given that I didn't have a "set" regiment, I felt my body responded to it, had some mild leanness and was dry from pissing so much.

    I'll have to run again sometime next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricroc View Post
    I used Formestane last year, if only to try it out and see how well I'd respond. Given that I didn't have a "set" regiment, I felt my body responded to it, had some mild leanness and was dry from pissing so much.

    I'll have to run again sometime next year.

    glad you liked it...
    formestane has been my favorite for a long time, and with the price nutra is selling formasurge for now is the time to get some. hopefully nutra keeps formasurge at this price, but who knows...formasurge and dermacrine both selling for $30 each is a real deal, imo.

    a big advantage formasurge has over other ai's like arimistane is it doesn't kill libido, instead the higher you dose the higher libido goes, imo. it doesn't effect my joints like arimistane either, even at high doses.
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    So you're eating below, at, or above maintenence right now? I saw you said you're going for more muscle/less fat. I just started forma/derma last night as ya know but am running slightly under maint on a CKD diet since I seem to lean out on CKD. Wondering if i shouldnt just be on standard diet and let the derma/forma do the extra cutting work for me.
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    oops, just saw that the price of formasurge went back up...you guys better jump on dermacrine while it's still on sale!!! hell, pp was selling the same dermacrine for close to $50 3-4 years ago!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lbmuscle View Post
    So you're eating below, at, or above maintenence right now? I saw you said you're going for more muscle/less fat. I just started forma/derma last night as ya know but am running slightly under maint on a CKD diet since I seem to lean out on CKD. Wondering if i shouldnt just be on standard diet and let the derma/forma do the extra cutting work for me.
    my diet is a little above maintenance right now, i cut down to a weight i wasn't comfortable at...190...i feel my best weight is between 200-205. 6 years ago i was 260 at 18% bf, but i just couln't put the time and work into maintaining that weight as i got older...plus my joints didn't like the seriously heavy lifting and carrying around that weight in my 50's.

    to answer you question, if your goal is simply to lean out then the stricter the diet the quicker the results, but i have learned that quicker is not always better. if you have a lot of 'bf' then you probably have excess estrogen, formasurge is going lean you out pretty quickly in my experience with the dermacrine helping to preserve muscle and keep test high while cutting...remember cutting fat will also increase test. i think slightly below maintenance is the way to go, trust me with formasurgedermacrine the results in the mirror are going to exceed the results on the scale...but over the course of running formasurge/ dermacrine at slightly below maintenance for a month i think you could safely expect to see a 5-7lb weight loss if you maintain diet properly....and workout on a regular basis, i suggest moderate weight at high reps when trying to cut weight and bf!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    my diet is a little above maintenance right now, i cut down to a weight i wasn't comfortable at...190...i feel my best weight is between 200-205. 6 years ago i was 260 at 18% bf, but i just couln't put the time and work into maintaining that weight as i got older...plus my joints didn't like the seriously heavy lifting and carrying around that weight in my 50's.

    to answer you question, if your goal is simply to lean out then the stricter the diet the quicker the results, but i have learned that quicker is not always better. if you have a lot of 'bf' then you probably have excess estrogen, formasurge is going lean you out pretty quickly in my experience with the dermacrine helping to preserve muscle and keep test high while cutting...remember cutting fat will also increase test. i think slightly below maintenance is the way to go, trust me with formasurgedermacrine the results in the mirror are going to exceed the results on the scale...but over the course of running formasurge/ dermacrine at slightly below maintenance for a month i think you could safely expect to see a 5-7lb weight loss if you maintain diet properly....and workout on a regular basis, i suggest moderate weight at high reps when trying to cut weight and bf!!!!
    Epic. Thank you. I guess I shouldn't say slightly below maintenance right now because I just got a desk job so everything I knew about my body burning calories has changed haha. Gotta be honest, I hate CKD, but I tend to like what it does for my body. I want to eat the most beneficial foods while taking these two supps. What do your macros look like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    hell, pp was selling the same dermacrine for close to $50 3-4 years ago!!!!
    Don't know too much about Dermacrine, but is this like PP's Sustain Alpha? Cause if so, Sustain Alpha was something I really wanted to give a-go!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lbmuscle View Post
    Epic. Thank you. I guess I shouldn't say slightly below maintenance right now because I just got a desk job so everything I knew about my body burning calories has changed haha. Gotta be honest, I hate CKD, but I tend to like what it does for my body. I want to eat the most beneficial foods while taking these two supps. What do your macros look like?
    right now i am between 3500 and 4500 cals depending on my level of activity on any given day. i focus on going heavy on protein, but due to my low blood sugar i am forced to eat more carbs than most even when cutting. i am a fitness nut and when i cut i focus on more cardio, 3 hours of tennis allows me to eat pretty much whatever i want and still maintain, cut some cals out and i lose weight quickly with lots of cardio...but thats me, you have to find what works for you, hell i actually enjoy listening to music while jogging on my basement treadmil for hours at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricroc View Post
    Don't know too much about Dermacrine, but is this like PP's Sustain Alpha? Cause if so, Sustain Alpha was something I really wanted to give a-go!
    similar but not the same...dermacrine has the ing of sustain listed 2nd on label[trans-resveratrol]...i consider dermacrine to be... sustain [advanced], lol.

    i have tried both, both good...but dermacrine is better, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    hey, misfit...i just noticed those avi pics, that is awesome. also saw you are running dcp 2.0, you should start a log, it would be motivation for you, and for others...that is some great progress, congrats!!! repped!!!! btw-i will be running formasurge/dcp 2.0/vanillean next month.
    Thanks! I need to update that Avi pic, I think I have added a bit more lean mass and dropped a bit more fat since then

    I might put up a log, but it might be a bit brief. I'm already through a bottle and a half of dcp 2.0 and loving it so far. I feel like I am recomping more than straight cutting, strength seems to be going up again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post
    Thanks! I need to update that Avi pic, I think I have added a bit more lean mass and dropped a bit more fat since then

    I might put up a log, but it might be a bit brief. I'm already through a bottle and a half of dcp 2.0 and loving it so far. I feel like I am recomping more than straight cutting, strength seems to be going up again
    dude, you are a success story that needs to be told....i love it when people turn their lives around like that!!! you should be very proud!!!

    btw-what was your starting weight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    dude, you are a success story that needs to be told....i love it when people turn their lives around like that!!! you should be very proud!!! btw-what was your starting weight?
    Starting weight was 335 at about 45% BF. Now sitting at around 220 with a total guess of about 18-19% BF.

    Still got a little way to go, but almost there. Thanks for the kind words
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post
    Starting weight was 335 at about 45% BF. Now sitting at around 220 with a total guess of about 18-19% BF.

    Still got a little way to go, but almost there. Thanks for the kind words
    outstanding!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post

    Thanks! I need to update that Avi pic, I think I have added a bit more lean mass and dropped a bit more fat since then

    I might put up a log, but it might be a bit brief. I'm already through a bottle and a half of dcp 2.0 and loving it so far. I feel like I am recomping more than straight cutting, strength seems to be going up again
    That's great feedback! I can't see AVIs but from your other post it sounds like you've come a LONG way!


    Congrats man, any plans on where to go now as far as training? (continue cutting, bulk up, strength, etc.)
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    time to put my old arse to bed...just drank my G8 and took my last dose of endosurge turbo...goodnight AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    That's great feedback! I can't see AVIs but from your other post it sounds like you've come a LONG way!


    Congrats man, any plans on where to go now as far as training? (continue cutting, bulk up, strength, etc.)
    I would like to get down to 15% BF and then start a good solid lean bulk after that. I intend on still using heavy compound movements (i.e. 5/3/1) with higher rep heavy weight for accessories to get some hypertrophy. Last little bulk cycle I used I followed the 5/3/1 "Bodybuilder" template and had some decent gains. I might do that again.
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    quick update on effects so far:

    libido has already increased by a lot, i am randy as an old goat, ok...so i am an an old goat

    starting to get that feeling i get when my test is really high...kickass.


    now, getting a pimple on the nose might not be a big thing for some, but at 55 and never being prone to acne as a teen, this is a pretty good sign that something is happening here...my son had acne kind of bad as a teen, i always told him he got it from his mom's side because i never had it, when he spotted the pimple he let me have it, lol.

    endurance is up in the gym as well as aggression, really haven't noticed any change in strength other than wanting to push harder.

    joints feel terrific!!!

    appetite is climbing.

    haven't weighed in yet, but notice stomach area looking a little more harder.

    but i need to say this again, libido is F*ING A!!! i told my wife to beware, she told me i better break out that fleshlight
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    quick update on effects so far:

    libido has already increased by a lot, i am randy as an old goat, ok...so i am an an old goat

    starting to get that feeling i get when my test is really high...kickass.

    now, getting a pimple on the nose might not be a big thing for some, but at 55 and never being prone to acne as a teen, this is a pretty good sign that something is happening here...my son had acne kind of bad as a teen, i always told him he got it from his mom's side because i never had it, when he spotted the pimple he let me have it, lol.

    endurance is up in the gym as well as aggression, really haven't noticed any change in strength other than wanting to push harder.

    joints feel terrific!!!

    appetite is climbing.

    haven't weighed in yet, but notice stomach area looking a little more harder.

    but i need to say this again, libido is F*ING A!!! i told my wife to beware, she told me i better break out that fleshlight
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    i was so hyped about monster libido that i forgot a few things:

    1st sleep has been very good lately, i've been logging G8 and really like it...but sleep is even better!!! also, last night had a very vivid dream...this involved pornstarlets, of course!!!!


    2nd a tip i forgot to mention:

    for a long time now i have been turnig the bottle upside down when not in use of ALL formestane products...due to the unique spout on formasurge, i have been putting it in a bowl with the spout facing up...there is a good reason for this, fomestane is one of the MOST difficult compounds to keep in solution, by turning it upside down it prevents grit and sediment from settling on bottom of bottle. i have done this with all topical formetane products for many years now.

    oh yeah, don't forget to shake before each use, and occassionaly run hot water over the end of spout...by following these simple tips you should have no problems...if you do give me a call, but i don't do texting, lol.

    enjoy!!!
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    Glad you're having success with this stuff.
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    Glad you're having success with this stuff.
    happy happy happy....only way i could be happier is if i were mormon and had 10 wifes....


    if my wife sees this i won't even have 1, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricroc View Post
    Glad you're having success with this stuff.
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    my results are probably amped up by the use of dmso, but as a representative for BPS i can't, won't, and don't endorse it's use by anyone else....dmso is said to have certain risks, and i accept this!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    happy happy happy....only way i could be happier is if i were mormon and had 10 wifes....


    if my wife sees this i won't even have 1, lol.

    LOL, I like your sense of humor
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    and i accept this!!!
    count may be 22 or so exclamation point from the t this page alone that a little under quota per page so best t you shall stepping up next couple post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post
    LOL, I like your sense of humor
    i wish i were kidding...my libido is so high i could tend to all 10 of those wifes....daily!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Touey View Post
    count may be 22 or so exclamation point from the t this page alone that a little under quota per page so best t you shall stepping up next couple post
    lol...i have been slacking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post

    happy happy happy....only way i could be happier is if i were mormon and had 10 wifes....

    if my wife sees this i won't even have 1, lol.
    Not cool bro, I'm Mormon (kinda, I ain't been to church in a long while).
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    Looking good!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Not cool bro, I'm Mormon (kinda, I ain't been to church in a long while).
    had to do some research and found that most mormons have shunned polygamy for decades, only a few 'sects' now practice it. my apologies for playing on a stereotype.

    to be honest stereoypes was about all i knew about mormonism before researching it, i learned something, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raulob72 View Post
    Looking good!!
    thank you, feeling good!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post

    had to do some research and found that most mormons have shunned polygamy for decades, only a few 'sects' now practice it. my apologies for playing on a stereotype.

    to be honest stereoypes was about all i knew about mormonism before researching it, i learned something, thanks.
    When the missionaries came to my house the first thing I asked was "what's with the whole multiple wives thing?".


    Apparently, you will be kicked out of the church if you do that.
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