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  1. Workout days in general


    Non workout minimum 2000

    I would start higher cals after 2 days of refeeding (both days refeed hitting low volume full body workouts)

    Refeed with little to no fat. Super high fiber (fiber one raisin bran) and only shakes and egg whites

    Then start the higher cals


  2. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Workout days in general

    Non workout minimum 2000

    I would start higher cals after 2 days of refeeding (both days refeed hitting low volume full body workouts)

    Refeed with little to no fat. Super high fiber (fiber one raisin bran) and only shakes and egg whites

    Then start the higher cals
    Is there somewhere I can read up on this whole method ?
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html
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  3. 2/2 Day (-2)
    Weight: 222.0 lbs (-5.0 lbs)

    Schedule
    11:15 - 1 vanillean, 2 Recompadrol
    11:45 - meal 1
    12:30 - 2 AAV2
    3:20 - 1 Forskolin, 2 Agmatine
    3:20 - whey shake
    6:00 - 1 vanillean, 3 Recompadrol, 1 Agmatine
    6:30 - meal 2
    8:30 - 3 AAV2
    11:00 - 1 vanillean, 1 Forskolin

    Food
    2,547 calories (P211/ c142/ f109)
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    Meal 1 Egg, 1/3 lb burger, mini bagel, small steak
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    Meal 2 Salmon, shrimp, shrimp w/crab, sweet mashed potatoes, green beans
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    Also sampled few of these.
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    Workout Off day

    Comments

    Cheat day of sort and experimenting. No workout today.

    No DOMS in my legs which is disappointing. Hope to see some soreness tomorrow.

    Did not feel the warmth during the day. Thermo effect looks to show up during cardio and at work.

    Had a cheat meal for dinner and I made sure to increase Recompadrol and AAV2 to compensate. What you are not seeing in the food pictures above is the 3 spoonful of apple pie with ice cream that I ate for dessert. Dinner ended up being 1,100 calories. I was definitely bloated afterwards. It took about an hour and bloat was gone. I noticed increase in vascularity in my hands while driving home and while changing at home, noticed them all over my arms.

    3 more days remain in this run in period. Will have a mini assessment on safety and dosing on Monday/Tuesday.

    Back to lifting tomorrow.

    No DOMS, but saw some veins in my calves. Haha. Still need to lose a lot of body fat.
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    I started a new log at:
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    You need about 500 more calories minimum on a day like the one above
    not to intrude here, not my party, but..aye
    at least that
    i would think results of your study are gonna be highly skewed with such paltry intake

  5. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    not to intrude here, not my party, but..aye
    at least that
    i would think results of your study are gonna be highly skewed with such paltry intake
    Thank you snagency. So you also agree upping the cals to 2,500 ? I am the endomorph type with slow metabolism and I always feel like I need to be at 2000 to lose weight. Based on my workout schedule, what would you recommend ?

    Please intrude away.
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by fumoney View Post
    Thank you snagency. So you also agree upping the cals to 2,500 ? I am the endomorph type with slow metabolism and I always feel like I need to be at 2000 to lose weight. Based on my workout schedule, what would you recommend ?

    Please intrude away.
    as stated - at least 2500 on such active day like that
    i might say 2500 on a non-activity day for you, tbh (so at least 3k on active days)
    while i understand your point on body-type, and you are older (even a yr older than me - that's old! )..
    that aspect cannot be totally eradicated from the equation - i may not advise caloric intake on my level (as i have a very high metabolism)..but still - some basic medium should be established imo, if you are going to attempt to isolate some result from products....
    the point as i understand the thread, is to look at efficacy/results of the products chosen no?
    thus, you would push the envelope with intake, not eat like a girl
    your food structure looks decent enuff, can alter overall macro construction if you wish, but -- for me -- i am not too impressed when someone your size takes some product and eats like a bird, then says product helped..nah what i mean?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    as stated - at least 2500 on such active day like that
    i might say 2500 on a non-activity day for you, tbh (so at least 3k on active days)
    while i understand your point on body-type, and you are older (even a yr older than me - that's old! )..
    that aspect cannot be totally eradicated from the equation - i may not advise caloric intake on my level (as i have a very high metabolism)..
    but still - some basic medium should be established imo, if you are going to attempt to isolate some result from products....
    the point as i understand the thread, is to look at efficacy/results of the products chosen no?
    thus, you would push the envelope with intake, not eat like a girl
    your food structure looks decent enuff, can alter overall macro construction if you wish, but -- for me -- i am not too impressed when someone your size takes some product and eats like a bird, then says product helped..nah what i mean?
    Eat like a bird
    Eat like a girl

    Hahahaha.

    You have made your point snagency loud and clear. Thank you very much for your response.

    I was hoping the body fat% change and not weight loss, if there are any, would support my conclusion down the line, but if I am eating unrealistically low amount of calories and others could not use my study to implement their fat loss plans using these supplements, than you are correct....results would be skewed.

    In fact Zach (EBF Inc) has continued to ask me to up my calories and I was finally about to listen. Maybe another run-in period with higher daily calories intake is in order.

    Thank you for the detailed feedback. I appreciate you taking the time to help out.
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html

  8. Quote Originally Posted by fumoney View Post
    Eat like a bird
    Eat like a girl
    sorry man, i dont like beating around the bush

  9. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    sorry man, i dont like beating around the bush
    No problem. Made me laugh.
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html

  10. Quote Originally Posted by fumoney View Post

    Is there somewhere I can read up on this whole method ?
    Years of practical practice

  11. Snag not sure if you were agreeing with my post lol. I said monimum

  12. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Snag not sure if you were agreeing with my post lol. I said monimum
    sure my friend
    at least = minimum
    i would go a bit higher for fu personally (as mentioned) but agreed that would be lowest level - at any time

  13. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post

    Years of practical practice
    Thanks !

    I think you need to write a book. Trying to stop asking you so many questions if I can read up on exactly how you do it.
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html

  14. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Years of practical practice
    is best kind
    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney View Post
    I think you need to write a book. Trying to stop asking you so many questions if I can read up on exactly how you do it.
    two sides to that coin bro..
    we all start somewhere for a guide, be it book/online etc
    however - to get to the point zach is saying, you have to come to your own conclusions, and understanding of your own body
    else, it never becomes your own applied "practical practice"



    okay, fading my philosophical self into the background now....

  15. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    is best kind
    two sides to that coin bro..
    we all start somewhere for a guide, be it book/online etc
    however - to get to the point zach is saying, you have to come to your own conclusions, and understanding of your own body
    else, it never becomes your own applied "practical practice"



    okay, fading my philosophical self into the background now....
    AM Philosophy 101.

    Thanks !
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html

  16. Tried some grilled mackerel today. Can't get rid of the taste in my mouth it was so fishy. Reminds me of ....... I will spare the details. Ugh...
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html

  17. 2/3 Day (-1)
    Weight: 225.0 lbs (-2.0 lbs)

    Schedule
    11:15 - 1 vanillean, 2 Recompadrol
    11:45 - meal 1
    12:30 - 2 AAV2
    1:00 - 1 Forskolin, 2 Agmatine
    1:15 - whey shake
    1:30 - lift
    3:00 - 1 Forskolin, 1 Agmatine, 3 Recompadrol, 1 Vanillean
    3:30 - meal 2
    4:15 - 2 AAV2
    5:00 - cardio
    8:30 - 2 Recompadrol
    9:00 - meal 3
    10:00 - 2 AAV2
    11:00 - 1 vanillean

    Food

    2,957 calories (P298/ c105/ f147)
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    Meal 1
    Egg, turkey sausage
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    Meal 2
    Mackerel - only ate 2
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    Meal 3
    Chicken thigh, mackerel, couple forks of spaghetti
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    Workout

    Cardio (hoodie on and focused)
    1,114 calories in 60 minutes
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    Wide Grip Pulldowns
    100x12
    120x12
    140x8
    160x8
    180x8
    200x6
    200x2
    Drop 150x6
    Drop 100x8

    HS Iso Row
    180x10
    270x8
    320x8
    320x8
    320x8

    SportsArt Pull Over
    154x10
    154x10
    154x10
    154x10

    Seated Row to Chest (hold 3 sec contraction)
    100x8
    140x8
    140x8
    140x8
    140x8

    Comments

    After exchanging posts on this thread with snag and EBF, I decided to up the calories today. Almost 3,000 calories and almost 300 grams of protein. 50 grams of fat from mackerel. I am happy with the macro for now. Not a fan of grilled mackerel. Too fishy. When cooked, it did not taste fishy at all. Actually pretty good.

    Do I feel bloated right now ? Not really. Recompadrol is doing its job. I think protocol change maybe in order. (To up calories during treatment phase) Will confirm Tuesday.

    I love cheat days and also hate cheat days. I wanted to put in good amount of work today. Back workout felt great with major pumps. Still do not feel like I have any strength loss. Cardio also felt great. My best output so far. I wore a thick hoodie and put the hat part on. Just focused on my pace and 60 minutes went by pretty quickly. Sweated up a storm. The thick hoodie was soaked from top to bottom.

    I feel great. Will stay at a higher calorie for now.

    Snags !!!!!
    I am no bird !!!!!

    All ready to destroy tomorrow's chest workout.
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html

  18. Im subd will catch up tomorow. Love some recompadrol and AAv2 I have a few bottles of each Ill be bustin into soon
    All posts by mattys4 are the result of a very creative imagination and should not be considered advice nor taken seriously

  19. Quote Originally Posted by mattys4 View Post
    Im subd will catch up tomorow. Love some recompadrol and AAv2 I have a few bottles of each Ill be bustin into soon
    Boss Body in da house. Welcome Matty !
    Good to have you here.
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html

  20. Quote Originally Posted by fumoney View Post
    I decided to up the calories today. Almost 3,000 calories and almost 300 grams of protein. 50 grams of fat from mackerel. I am happy with the macro for now.
    nice!
    Recompadrol is doing its job. I think protocol change maybe in order. (To up calories during treatment phase)
    awaiting next phase..

    Snags !!!!!
    I am no bird !!!!!
    attaboy

  21. Solid workout Fumoney!

    That mackerel looks interesting...I can't stand seafood (besides tuna if that counts). It's a shame, considering I've always lived right by the ocean.
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  22. Fufu Sick wide grip numbers!! Your back workouts are always strong just sick wicked fufu strong!
    OG Avenger-HULK SMASHING TIME!

  23. I had raw mackerel at a sushi place yesterday, so good!

    I agree w upping the cals too Fu.. You are very active regardless of body type. I was like u. Once I upped my cals consistently I was SHOCKED how much I needed to eat to maintain weight. And then how easy it became to cut cals because there was actually a surplus to cut from!

  24. Quote Originally Posted by fumoney

    Boss Body in da house. Welcome Matty !
    Good to have you here.
    Words getting around i guess.
    Great log so far man i skimmed it this.morning
    All posts by mattys4 are the result of a very creative imagination and should not be considered advice nor taken seriously

  25. Quote Originally Posted by fumoney

    Boss Body in da house. Welcome Matty !
    Good to have you here.
    Thanks for the plug too
    All posts by mattys4 are the result of a very creative imagination and should not be considered advice nor taken seriously

  26. Quote Originally Posted by mattys4 View Post

    Thanks for the plug too
    Boss body doing big things!

  27. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc

    Boss body doing big things!
    Hell yeah!!!! Should have first production of tshirts in this week too
    All posts by mattys4 are the result of a very creative imagination and should not be considered advice nor taken seriously

  28. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    I had raw mackerel at a sushi place yesterday, so good!

    I agree w upping the cals too Fu.. You are very active regardless of body type. I was like u. Once I upped my cals consistently I was SHOCKED how much I needed to eat to maintain weight. And then how easy it became to cut cals because there was actually a surplus to cut from!
    Hmmm, maybe the fish was bad. Don't feel sick though. The fish I had looked like they just gutted it and threw it on the grill. I had to put a ton of lemon to down it as in the end I knew it was good for me.

    Thanks. Good to have another validation about raising calories. I am leaning towards doing it officially.
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html

  29. Quote Originally Posted by packers6211 View Post
    Fufu Sick wide grip numbers!! Your back workouts are always strong just sick wicked fufu strong!
    Thank you Packers. I think as I get stronger, my back will improve. Still my weakest part development wise.
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html

  30. Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    Solid workout Fumoney!

    That mackerel looks interesting...I can't stand seafood (besides tuna if that counts). It's a shame, considering I've always lived right by the ocean.
    Seafood haven. You're near Boston I am assuming ?

    I would probably eat fresh fish 5 of 7 days if I was near the ocean.
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html
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