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    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney View Post

    Zach - What is a burn day ?
    I believe he is saying a lower calorie day with low carbs and cardio? Hence burning more fat and not concentrating on building muscle?

    Build and burn days.

    IFers use the reference a lot as well as carb cyclers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post

    I believe he is saying a lower calorie day with low carbs and cardio? Hence burning more fat and not concentrating on building muscle?

    Build and burn days.

    IFers use the reference a lot as well as carb cyclers.
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    I'm just playin... but if you knew me, you would know that i would say something like that.

    Also I am not Caucasian like my profile says, i accidentally skipped over that on my profile and need to change it. I'm proud of all you for sticking up with the brotha's through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrine View Post
    I'm just playin... but if you knew me, you would know that i would say something like that.

    Also I am not Caucasian like my profile says, i accidentally skipped over that on my profile and need to change it. I'm proud of all you for sticking up with the brotha's through.
    It's all good Shrine. Thank you for the explanation. This is a pretty close knit group and we all like to support each other and help out if needed.

    Lets start over. Welcome !
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    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney

    It's all good Shrine. Thank you for the explanation. This is a pretty close knit group and we all like to support each other and help out if needed.

    Lets start over. Welcome !
    Lookin forward to hearing your thoughts on Recompadrol. I start my in two weeks to do a little cutting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post

    I believe he is saying a lower calorie day with low carbs and cardio? Hence burning more fat and not concentrating on building muscle?

    Build and burn days.

    IFers use the reference a lot as well as carb cyclers.
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    1/31 Day (-4)

    Weight: 223.8 lbs (-3.2 lbs)

    Schedule
    11:30 - 1 vanillean, 2 Recompadrol
    12:00 - meal 1
    1:10 - 2 AAV2
    4:30 - whey shake
    6:00 - cardio
    7:15 - 1 vanillean, 2 Recompadrol
    7:45 - meal 2
    8:30 - 2 AAV2
    9:30 - 1 Forskolin, 2 Agmatine
    10:00 - cardio
    10:45 - 3 Recompadrol, 1 Forskolin, 1 Agmatine
    12:30 - 1 vanillean

    Food

    2,064 calories (P206/ c83/ f107)
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    Meal 1 Buffalo chicken cheese steak wrap
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    Meal 2 steak, eggs, pork
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    Workout

    Cardio session 1 before last meal of day -
    960 calories in 60 minutes

    Cardio session 2 after last meal of day -
    537 calories in 30 minutes

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    Slow and steady wins the race. Weight continues to go down slowly.

    No DOMS. Muscles remain hard and veins are showing little more. I think I am looking slightly leaner. Muscle outlines can be seen better.

    Had some hunger issues that I dealt with by drinking coffee.

    Off day for lifting, decided to wrap 2 sessions of cardio around dinner. Felt great. Had much more energy after dinner than prior. Did not get warm during the day, but sweated off a storm during cardio - both sessions.

    Having trouble getting down to 2,000 calories. Maybe 2,100 is my sweet spot. Still below maintenance.
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    Coffee curing cravings huh? Always good to find helpful tricks like that when dieting. Eggs with steak sounds amazing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    Coffee curing cravings huh? Always good to find helpful tricks like that when dieting. Eggs with steak sounds amazing!
    It seems to work. Hope it becomes my goto thing if needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrine View Post

    Lookin forward to hearing your thoughts on Recompadrol. I start my in two weeks to do a little cutting.
    Thanks. There is a log I did last summer with EBF products only. Had pretty good success.
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    Cardio twice in one day sounds like a bad dream lol. Nice work Fumoney! Food looks delicious as always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    Cardio twice in one day sounds like a bad dream lol. Nice work Fumoney! Food looks delicious as always.
    Thanks !

    I could do without if I had a choice. Not a choice until I am down to 180.

    Winter is the best time for me for cardio. I can always flip on hockey or basketball on the tube.
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    180 is a breeze with your dedication bro! You got this shizz!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    180 is a breeze with your dedication bro! You got this shizz!
    Thanks LTL. Stalled at 207 last year. Pissed me off. I WILL get it this year !
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    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney View Post

    Thanks LTL. Stalled at 207 last year. Pissed me off. I WILL get it this year !
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    The body takes why it needs excretes and stores.

    If you couldn't handle tht much food how would people get fat? Lol

    I handle it just fine except my ass burned from all Te hot sauce today lol

    I can't eat less than 1800 cals in a sitting without starving 2 hours later bulking without putting on fat will be hard but it'll be manageable.

    Try it out I love to eat so this is good for me

    That is what I meant, did not realize the body could process all those cal's without storing some as fat - which worries me being a guy that lost a ton of weight.

    I too love to eat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney View Post
    1/31 Day (-4)

    Weight: 223.8 lbs (-3.2 lbs)


    Food

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    Meal 1 Buffalo chicken cheese steak wrap
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    Meal 2 steak, eggs, pork
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    Good work on all that cardio!

    ...You keep posting food pics like that and we are all moving in!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post

    That is what I meant, did not realize the body could process all those cal's without storing some as fat - which worries me being a guy that lost a ton of weight.

    I too love to eat...

    And ... nothing like the hoop o' fire after some hellfire wings...
    That's why I love IF... I love to eat. So when I so eat, I get to eat a TON in one sitting
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post

    Good work on all that cardio!

    ...You keep posting food pics like that and we are all moving in!
    Thanks wasme.

    I decided to post food pic for accountability purposes. Feel free to say.....buffalo chicken cheesesteak wrap on a cut!!!!

    Also, gives me a quick view of what I ate during this run instead of reading through everything.
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    Did I eat this whole thing for dinner ?
    Whole fried tilapia with spicy lemongrass garnish.
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    What about this plate of pineapple fried rice with chicken ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney View Post
    Did I eat this whole thing for dinner ?
    Whole fried tilapia with spicy lemongrass garnish.
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    What about this plate of pineapple fried rice with chicken ?
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    Stay tuned. I will answer in todays update after killing my legs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney View Post
    Did I eat this whole thing for dinner ?
    Whole fried tilapia with spicy lemongrass garnish.
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    What about this plate of pineapple fried rice with chicken ?
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    Stay tuned. I will answer in todays update after killing my legs.
    That looks delicious. Where is that?
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    what the fu..........
    thread has blown up over last couple days, caught my attention
    food pics are gonna make stay
    i want your camera
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post

    That looks delicious. Where is that?
    It was amazing. That lemongrass garnish (green stuff) had a nice kick to it (little slivers of red thai chillies mixed in)

    Went to Thai restaurant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    what the fu..........
    thread has blown up over last couple days, caught my attention
    food pics are gonna make stay
    i want your camera
    Welcome snagency !!!

    It is always good to have another knowledgeable AM expert stopping by.
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    2/1 Day (-3)
    Weight: 223.4 lbs (-3.6 lbs)

    Schedule
    11:30 - 1 vanillean, 2 Recompadrol
    12:00 - meal 1
    1:10 - 2 AAV2
    6:00 - whey shake
    7:00 - 1 vanillean, 2 Recompadrol
    7:30 - meal 2
    8:15 - 2 AAV2
    8:25 - 1 Forskolin, 2 Agmatine
    9:00 - lift
    11:00 - 3 Recompadrol, 1 Forskolin, 1 Agmatine
    12:30 - 1 vanillean

    Food
    1,851 calories (P203/ c120/ f77)
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    Meal 1
    Turkey Swiss sandwich + 2 eggs
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    Meal 2
    Fried Tilapia + pineapple fried rice
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    Workout

    Cardio - 310 calories in 20 minutes
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    Hack squat
    90x8
    180x8
    230x8
    230x8
    230x8

    Hoist Leg Press
    246x20
    246x20
    246x20
    246x20
    310x20

    Leg Press
    90x15
    180x 12
    270x 12
    360x12
    450x12
    Drop 180x25

    Strive Leg Extension
    70x16
    70x16
    70x16
    70x16

    Strive Leg Curl
    90x24
    90x24
    90x24

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    I work from home on Fridays. I thought fasting at home with food readily accessible would be difficult. Especially since I had a lot of hunger pangs yesterday morning. Well it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. I made it to 12 noon without any problems. I don't think it was the supplements since I only started dosing at 11:30 am.

    However, once 12 noon hit, I was famished and took a bite of my sandwich and 1 egg before I remembered I needed to take pictures.

    Went out to dinner with GF at a Thai restaurant. We ordered a whole tilapia and pineapple fried rice. We were going to split it then take home the left overs. My appetite held together and I did not over eat like I thought I would even though it smelled amazing. We ate the fish and took most of the fried rice home.

    No thermo effects during the day or while lifting. Sweat poured off me during the short cardio stint. I felt pretty strong while lifting and felt like I haven't lost any strength. Leg workout felt great and will probably add weight next time. Finished off with 20 minutes of cardio so my hamstrings do not tighten up in cold weather.

    No bloating or GI issues.
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    Today's my off day. Feel guilty for taking a break already. I know rest is necessary, even on a cut. I find myself peeking at the clock wondering if I have enough time to fit in a workout. Well at least this will be good feedback for later.

    Back and cardio tomorrow and will try my best to watch what I eat/drink during Super Bowl.
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    Dude you should def have an off day after the friggin leg blast. That is insane fufu style oh yeah oh yeah just the way we like it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney View Post
    2/1 Day (-3)
    Weight: 223.4 lbs (-3.6 lbs)

    Schedule
    11:30 - 1 vanillean, 2 Recompadrol
    12:00 - meal 1
    1:10 - 2 AAV2
    6:00 - whey shake
    7:00 - 1 vanillean, 2 Recompadrol
    7:30 - meal 2
    8:15 - 2 AAV2
    8:25 - 1 Forskolin, 2 Agmatine
    9:00 - lift
    11:00 - 3 Recompadrol, 1 Forskolin, 1 Agmatine
    12:30 - 1 vanillean

    Food
    1,851 calories (P203/ c120/ f77)
    <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=74 127"/>

    Meal 1
    Turkey Swiss sandwich + 2 eggs
    <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=74 128"/>

    Meal 2
    Fried Tilapia + pineapple fried rice
    <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=74 129"/>

    Workout

    Cardio - 310 calories in 20 minutes
    <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=74 126"/>

    Hack squat
    90x8
    180x8
    230x8
    230x8
    230x8

    Hoist Leg Press
    246x20
    246x20
    246x20
    246x20
    310x20

    Leg Press
    90x15
    180x 12
    270x 12
    360x12
    450x12
    Drop 180x25

    Strive Leg Extension
    70x16
    70x16
    70x16
    70x16

    Strive Leg Curl
    90x24
    90x24
    90x24

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    I work from home on Fridays. I thought fasting at home with food readily accessible would be difficult. Especially since I had a lot of hunger pangs yesterday morning. Well it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. I made it to 12 noon without any problems. I don't think it was the supplements since I only started dosing at 11:30 am.

    However, once 12 noon hit, I was famished and took a bite of my sandwich and 1 egg before I remembered I needed to take pictures.

    Went out to dinner with GF at a Thai restaurant. We ordered a whole tilapia and pineapple fried rice. We were going to split it then take home the left overs. My appetite held together and I did not over eat like I thought I would even though it smelled amazing. We ate the fish and took most of the fried rice home.

    No thermo effects during the day or while lifting. Sweat poured off me during the short cardio stint. I felt pretty strong while lifting and felt like I haven't lost any strength. Leg workout felt great and will probably add weight next time. Finished off with 20 minutes of cardio so my hamstrings do not tighten up in cold weather.

    No bloating or GI issues.
    You need about 500 more calories minimum on a day like the one above
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post

    You need about 500 more calories minimum on a day like the one above
    Due to leg workout ? Or on any workout days ?

    So up it to about 2500 cals with most cals distributed to protein and fat I am assuming. ?

    What about in non-workout days ?

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    Workout days in general


    Non workout minimum 2000

    I would start higher cals after 2 days of refeeding (both days refeed hitting low volume full body workouts)

    Refeed with little to no fat. Super high fiber (fiber one raisin bran) and only shakes and egg whites

    Then start the higher cals
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Workout days in general

    Non workout minimum 2000

    I would start higher cals after 2 days of refeeding (both days refeed hitting low volume full body workouts)

    Refeed with little to no fat. Super high fiber (fiber one raisin bran) and only shakes and egg whites

    Then start the higher cals
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    2/2 Day (-2)
    Weight: 222.0 lbs (-5.0 lbs)

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    11:15 - 1 vanillean, 2 Recompadrol
    11:45 - meal 1
    12:30 - 2 AAV2
    3:20 - 1 Forskolin, 2 Agmatine
    3:20 - whey shake
    6:00 - 1 vanillean, 3 Recompadrol, 1 Agmatine
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    8:30 - 3 AAV2
    11:00 - 1 vanillean, 1 Forskolin

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    Cheat day of sort and experimenting. No workout today.

    No DOMS in my legs which is disappointing. Hope to see some soreness tomorrow.

    Did not feel the warmth during the day. Thermo effect looks to show up during cardio and at work.

    Had a cheat meal for dinner and I made sure to increase Recompadrol and AAV2 to compensate. What you are not seeing in the food pictures above is the 3 spoonful of apple pie with ice cream that I ate for dessert. Dinner ended up being 1,100 calories. I was definitely bloated afterwards. It took about an hour and bloat was gone. I noticed increase in vascularity in my hands while driving home and while changing at home, noticed them all over my arms.

    3 more days remain in this run in period. Will have a mini assessment on safety and dosing on Monday/Tuesday.

    Back to lifting tomorrow.

    No DOMS, but saw some veins in my calves. Haha. Still need to lose a lot of body fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    You need about 500 more calories minimum on a day like the one above
    not to intrude here, not my party, but..aye
    at least that
    i would think results of your study are gonna be highly skewed with such paltry intake
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    not to intrude here, not my party, but..aye
    at least that
    i would think results of your study are gonna be highly skewed with such paltry intake
    Thank you snagency. So you also agree upping the cals to 2,500 ? I am the endomorph type with slow metabolism and I always feel like I need to be at 2000 to lose weight. Based on my workout schedule, what would you recommend ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney View Post
    Thank you snagency. So you also agree upping the cals to 2,500 ? I am the endomorph type with slow metabolism and I always feel like I need to be at 2000 to lose weight. Based on my workout schedule, what would you recommend ?

    Please intrude away.
    as stated - at least 2500 on such active day like that
    i might say 2500 on a non-activity day for you, tbh (so at least 3k on active days)
    while i understand your point on body-type, and you are older (even a yr older than me - that's old! )..
    that aspect cannot be totally eradicated from the equation - i may not advise caloric intake on my level (as i have a very high metabolism)..but still - some basic medium should be established imo, if you are going to attempt to isolate some result from products....
    the point as i understand the thread, is to look at efficacy/results of the products chosen no?
    thus, you would push the envelope with intake, not eat like a girl
    your food structure looks decent enuff, can alter overall macro construction if you wish, but -- for me -- i am not too impressed when someone your size takes some product and eats like a bird, then says product helped..nah what i mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    as stated - at least 2500 on such active day like that
    i might say 2500 on a non-activity day for you, tbh (so at least 3k on active days)
    while i understand your point on body-type, and you are older (even a yr older than me - that's old! )..
    that aspect cannot be totally eradicated from the equation - i may not advise caloric intake on my level (as i have a very high metabolism)..
    but still - some basic medium should be established imo, if you are going to attempt to isolate some result from products....
    the point as i understand the thread, is to look at efficacy/results of the products chosen no?
    thus, you would push the envelope with intake, not eat like a girl
    your food structure looks decent enuff, can alter overall macro construction if you wish, but -- for me -- i am not too impressed when someone your size takes some product and eats like a bird, then says product helped..nah what i mean?
    Eat like a bird
    Eat like a girl

    Hahahaha.

    You have made your point snagency loud and clear. Thank you very much for your response.

    I was hoping the body fat% change and not weight loss, if there are any, would support my conclusion down the line, but if I am eating unrealistically low amount of calories and others could not use my study to implement their fat loss plans using these supplements, than you are correct....results would be skewed.

    In fact Zach (EBF Inc) has continued to ask me to up my calories and I was finally about to listen. Maybe another run-in period with higher daily calories intake is in order.

    Thank you for the detailed feedback. I appreciate you taking the time to help out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney View Post
    Eat like a bird
    Eat like a girl
    sorry man, i dont like beating around the bush
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    sorry man, i dont like beating around the bush
    No problem. Made me laugh.
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    Is there somewhere I can read up on this whole method ?
    Years of practical practice
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