VERSA-1, Compound20, SS Forskolin-95 (8 weeks)

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    I love test powder as well. What r u questionig/ looking for suggestions on??
    I'm just trying to decided if I want to throw it into the mix.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post

    I'm just trying to decided if I want to throw it into the mix.
    With versa, c20, and forskolin? U said u got new stuff- what's your stack at now?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post

    With versa, c20, and forskolin? U said u got new stuff- what's your stack at now?
    Yeah. The new stuff is AP and micro (and probiotics), which I wouldn't really consider a part of the "main stack"...more or less staples I guess.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post

    Yeah. The new stuff is AP and micro (and probiotics), which I wouldn't really consider a part of the "main stack"...more or less staples I guess.
    Gotcha. Hmm.. How long do u have left on forsk, versa, c20. U may just wanna bridge like your last week of those 3 into TP+micro..
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post

    Gotcha. Hmm.. How long do u have left on forsk, versa, c20. U may just wanna bridge like your last week of those 3 into TP+micro..
    I've got another month. I think I'll hold off on the TP (wish I never looked at it today lol) but throw in micro for Craze. I'll probably alternate pres a little this next month. I know I'll be trying Enhanced ASAP.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post

    I've got another month. I think I'll hold off on the TP (wish I never looked at it today lol) but throw in micro for Craze. I'll probably alternate pres a little this next month. I know I'll be trying Enhanced ASAP.
    Yea can't wait for that to come out!
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  7. Day 29
    continued


    Supplementation

    VERSA-1: 1 cap 45mins pre workout


    Compound 20: 2 caps 30mins pre workout, 2 caps 7 hour later


    Forskolin-95: 1 cap morning, 1 cap pre workout, 1 cap afternoon, 1 cap pre bed (100mg total)


    Pre workout mix: 2 scoops Craze/2 scoops Protocol V2 (started drinking with V-1 and finished on the ride to gym)


    ALCAR-500: 2g 20 mins pre workout


    Modern BCAA: 2 scoops intra workout


    Agmatine 500: 2 caps pre workout, 1 cap post workout



    I had another solid workout today. My focus was on point and strength was up. My energy in the gym and throughout the day is picking back up as well. By the workout's end my shoulders were completely rocked.


    BB Incline Bench (ROM: 2-3 inches from chest/no *******)
    2 warm-up x8
    185x8
    205x8
    215x8
    225x8

    -I really just do these to warm my shoulders up, but I upped the weight a bit.


    Over and Backs
    95x12
    105x12
    115x9
    125x8

    -I counted 10 reps with 115, but upon video review I only did 9. Weight was increased with these.





    High Pulley Rear Delt Fly (pause/squeeze in contracted position)
    15x35
    20x25
    20x20, drop 5x20

    -had my rear delts screaming


    6 ways
    10x10
    10x10
    10x10


    supersets
    Ab Crunch Machine
    200x12
    220x10
    240x8
    Hanging Leg Raises
    12
    12
    10

    -I'm a big fan of this ab machine at my new gym. Its angle along with the right adjustments really allows a full stretch and let's me hit the entire abdominal region.



    Post workout meal
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    Omega egg/jalapeno chicken sausage/uncured turkey bacon/South African Smoke seasoning omelette on a gluten free bagel with a side of gluten free waffles. There's a minimal amount of organic maple/agave syrup on the waffles.
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  8. Love this mtn dog stuff! Need to try. Also <3 post workout meals haha

    Why r u going gluten free? Reduces inflammation or r u allergic? I know it's not great for u but any particular reason?

    I cant recall seeing many high fiber gluten free type foods :/
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Love this mtn dog stuff! Need to try. Also <3 post workout meals haha

    Why r u going gluten free? Reduces inflammation or r u allergic? I know it's not great for u but any particular reason?

    I cant recall seeing many high fiber gluten free type foods :/
    I first started bc of its low GI qualities but now I do it bc I feel so much better and my waist is A LOT smaller. My waist is still around 32" and I'm hovering around 200lbs

    I still get some on cheat meals I'll have but it's minimal
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Love this mtn dog stuff! Need to try. Also <3 post workout meals haha

    Why r u going gluten free? Reduces inflammation or r u allergic? I know it's not great for u but any particular reason?

    I cant recall seeing many high fiber gluten free type foods :/
    I recommend you do. I'm having the time of my life lol. We have a lot in common.

    Thought I'd give a try, mainly for the inflammation. The Mtn. Dog himself and DW were influences as well.

    Quest Bars (16-18g) . I'm not sure about everything else I'm eating, but I do know the bagels have 3g.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post

    I recommend you do. I'm having the time of my life lol. We have a lot in common.

    Thought I'd give a try, mainly for the inflammation. The Mtn. Dog himself and DW were influences as well.

    Quest Bars (16-18g) . I'm not sure about everything else I'm eating, but I do know the bagels have 3g.
    True. I love quest bars forgot they r glten free as r some pure protein bars. I'll have to take a look around the store. We have trader joes all over too so I'm sure I'll find SOMETHING! niiice
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post

    I first started bc of its low GI qualities but now I do it bc I feel so much better and my waist is A LOT smaller. My waist is still around 32" and I'm hovering around 200lbs

    I still get some on cheat meals I'll have but it's minimal
    Gluten free foods r low glyc index?
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post

    Gluten free foods r low glyc index?
    Not all but most are. Example is Ezekiel bread, GI is in the low 30's. most "bread" based gluten free products are around the same.
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  14. Video added to workout update
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  15. i never go behind the neck
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post

    Not all but most are. Example is Ezekiel bread, GI is in the low 30's. most "bread" based gluten free products are around the same.
    Is all Ezekiel bread gluten free?
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post

    Is all Ezekiel bread gluten free?
    To my knowledge, yes.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    i never go behind the neck
    I do, not a lot though or very heavy. The constant tension of those feels great.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    I do, not a lot though or very heavy. The constant tension of those feels great.
    i bet. ive just read too many stories on neck/shoulder injuries.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post

    To my knowledge, yes.
    Cool. I had thought so as well, but it's not on the 2 shelves marked gluten free when I go shopping.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post

    i bet. ive just read too many stories on neck/shoulder injuries.
    Yeah, there's definitely a higher risk of injury.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post

    Cool. I had thought so as well, but it's not on the 2 shelves marked gluten free when I go shopping.
    I go to whole foods for the Ezekiel stuff, their selection is HUGE! It's a little more pricey but nothing earth shattering.

    Cereal, Wraps, bagels, bread, English muffins, pasta & other odds and ends a few different kids.
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  23. Solid info thanks dw and breezy
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post

    I go to whole foods for the Ezekiel stuff, their selection is HUGE! It's a little more pricey but nothing earth shattering.

    Cereal, Wraps, bagels, bread, English muffins, pasta & other odds and ends a few different kids.
    I need to hit that place up then. I drive by it everyday, but have only been a couple times...kinda forgot about it. Sometimes I go to a local health food/supp store with a big selection, but the prices are pretty high.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Solid info thanks dw and breezy
    No problem boss.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post

    No problem boss.
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  27. I think as hard as it might be to wait that you should just hold off on TP for now. You got an awesome combo now and it might be better served using the TP later. I do think you need to prepare for some great workouts with Micro tho. I've only used it a couple times but my training partner loves it and his endurance was insane with it. The nitrates and citrulline should be a very welcome addition to the Mountain Dog Training.

    Also a big fan of Ezekiel breads. I believe I started getting it after following a Snag log and have been hooked on the cinnamon raisin bread for years now.
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  28. Ezekial bread is awesome stuff.
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  29. Yes cinnamon raisin with PB on it toasted yum yum. Missing that stuff at this moment during my prep. I was surprised my coach took it out! Ever since going with Ezekiel bread I won't go back. Great great stuff

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  30. Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    I think as hard as it might be to wait that you should just hold off on TP for now. You got an awesome combo now and it might be better served using the TP later. I do think you need to prepare for some great workouts with Micro tho. I've only used it a couple times but my training partner loves it and his endurance was insane with it. The nitrates and citrulline should be a very welcome addition to the Mountain Dog Training.

    Also a big fan of Ezekiel breads. I believe I started getting it after following a Snag log and have been hooked on the cinnamon raisin bread for years now.
    Yeah, I agree it'd be best to wait. I've got plenty of things that I could run with it as well. I'm looking forward to a micro fueled workout in a little while. I actually took work off because I figured I'd be waiting for the cable/internet guy to show up all day (based on past experiences) and he arrived right on time.

    I've been eating Ezekiel bread for the last year, but haven't tried the cinnamon raisin yet...I'll do that.

    EDIT: I figured you'd be the guy to ask this question to. What do you think about 9 weeks of forskolin at 100mg vs 8 weeks going over 100mg.

    Quote Originally Posted by jwa254 View Post
    Ezekial bread is awesome stuff.
    I like the English muffins too.

    Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post
    Yes cinnamon raisin with PB on it toasted yum yum. Missing that stuff at this moment during my prep. I was surprised my coach took it out! Ever since going with Ezekiel bread I won't go back. Great great stuff

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    I'll give that a shot as well, probably with almond butter though.
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  31. Just thought I'd post this link after what was discussed yesterday. It looks like sprouted/Ezekiel breads might contain glutens.

    The Truth About Wheat...
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  32. Ps- take one cap AP before bed at night.. Will dry u out and lean u up like no ones business.. Do it every night for continual effects
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  33. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Ps- take one cap AP before bed at night.. Will dry u out and lean u up like no ones business.. Do it every night for continual effects
    Thanks for the tip. I doubt I'll do it consistently (too many carb meals/not enough AP), but I'll definitely try it...probably tonight.
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  34. Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post

    Thanks for the tip. I doubt I'll do it consistently (too many carb meals/not enough AP), but I'll definitely try it...probably tonight.
    Yea I USED TO do 3 caps a day - 1 pre meal 1 pre meal and 1 pre fasted cardio. Then on days I didn't hVe fasted cardio I would use that cap at pre bed
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  35. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post

    Yea I USED TO do 3 caps a day - 1 pre meal 1 pre meal and 1 pre fasted cardio. Then on days I didn't hVe fasted cardio I would use that cap at pre bed
    I know I'll end up using 3 caps on some days. I might as well just order another bottle now lol.
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  36. Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post

    I know I'll end up using 3 caps on some days. I might as well just order another bottle now lol.
    Mhmm. Only bad thing usp did was reduce bottle sizeof AP :/ I wonder why
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  37. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post

    Mhmm. Only bad thing usp did was reduce bottle sizeof AP :/ I wonder why
    Not sure, I'm guessing it's cost related. They started increasing everything else though. I saw earlier today that they upped the BCAAs per serving of Modern BCAA (at least added it as a new option), which is awesome.
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  38. Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post

    Not sure, I'm guessing it's cost related. They started increasing everything else though. I saw earlier today that they doubled the size of Modern BCAA (at least added it as a new option), which is awesome.
    Exactly, which Is y I so confused lol
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  39. Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    Just thought I'd post this link after what was discussed yesterday. It looks like sprouted/Ezekiel breads might contain glutens.

    The Truth About Wheat...
    Funny u posted that, my coach just linked that to me cuz out of curiosity I asked him why he took it out. Thanks breezy

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  40. I don't but their hype, I actually rolled my eyes when I read that thread.
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