BigMikeC HARDCORE CUT w/ EPIANDRO and 17PROANDRO (sponsored)

[AaronJP1]

Im expecting to get hard as fuurrrk on this cycle. Both on their own have hardening effects. So together they should work very synergistically. My main goal is to retain as much muscle as possible while dropping BF%. Don't want to drop to much weight this far out. I expect to see a lot more separation and distinction between muscles. More "shape".

Up in the air between the epi and 1 ad...
But not a fan of stano which you compared the epi too.

-Purus Labs Rep
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[BigMikeC]

Todays an off day.
BUUTT I got my box from LG Sciences today with my cycle. EpiAndro and 17ProAndro.
Dosing will be as follows Epiandro 1.5ml 4x a day spread 4 hours apart
and 17ProAndro 2ml 3x a day spread 5 hours apart.

[BigMikeC]

Knocked out some Legs today. I drank a sample pre workout that I had given to me and it made me extremely nauseous. I pushed through but it definaitly wasn't my best workout. EpiAndro 1.5 ml and 2ml 17ProAndro. Taste isn't to bad. If you ever tried MMv3 subligual tabs the taste in both products is similar to that with maybe a bit more "chemically" taste. But it wont kill ya

Squats
135x20,225x10,315x10, 375x10, 405x10, 375x10
Quad extension
185x20 4 sets
Standing single leg curls
100x20 each leg 4 sets
lying leg curl 160x20 2 sets

reverse crunches 20 2 sets
nautilus crunch machine 45x 20 x 2

[MrDead]

I started taking supps, back in the late '80s... The taste of ANYTHING these days will still be waaaaaay better, than what I had back then... *LOL* But, yeah, very familiar with the SL MMv3 tabs and "taste"...

[BigMikeC]

At least the supps in the 80's didn't have al the laws and restrictions! You could basically buy gear from *** back then!

[MrDead]

At least the supps in the 80's didn't have al the laws and restrictions! You could basically buy gear from *** back then!

I miss some of those...

[BigMikeC]

Today was a great workout. Felt tighter today, It's probably not the ph's kicking in yet probably my diet and cardio.

1/4
Calves, Abs, Chest

Calve raises
150x 30 5 sets
Cable crunches
120x30 4 sets
Pec fly Machine
100x15 3 sets

incline db flat bench
90x15, 120x 12, 120x12

Flat Barbell Bench
225 x 20, 220x20, 225x 15, 275x12, 275x12, 225x12

Cable high pully presses
120x15-20 x 4 sets

Cable low pully fly
55x20 x 3 sets

Db Shrug (Variatiion) Squeeze chest together at simialar to wide gripe dip)
70x20 3 sets

I'll try and get some vids and pics up this weekend!

[AaronJP1]

Today was a great workout. Felt tighter today, It's probably not the ph's kicking in yet probably my diet and cardio.

1/4
Calves, Abs, Chest

Calve raises
150x 30 5 sets
Cable crunches
120x30 4 sets
Pec fly Machine
100x15 3 sets

incline db flat bench
90x15, 120x 12, 120x12

Flat Barbell Bench
225 x 20, 220x20, 225x 15, 275x12, 275x12, 225x12

Cable high pully presses
120x15-20 x 4 sets

Cable low pully fly
55x20 x 3 sets

Db Shrug (Variatiion) Squeeze chest together at simialar to wide gripe dip)
70x20 3 sets

I'll try and get some vids and pics up this weekend!

Can't trump diet and the cardio.

-Purus Labs Rep
(Mobile Posting)

[BigMikeC]

Alright starting to get a little more vascular. Sure the Epi Andro/ 17ProAndro are jsut barely kicking in but I'm def noticing some vascularity. I was out of town yesterday but I had a great workout shoulder workout.

So I'll post yesterdays and todays workout today

Shoulder 1/5

Lateral raise
35x20, 45x20, 55x15, 60x 12 ( felt strong on these)
Front Raises (isolateral)
35x 15, 45x 15, 55x12
Tried DB press but my shoulder has been giving propblems so I switched to-
Hammer Press
2platesx15, 3platesx 15, 3plates+ quarter x 12, 4 platesx 12 triple drop back down 10, 10
Reverse Pec Deck
135x20, 135x 20, 135x20
Machine lateral raises
120x 15 4 sets supersets w/
Machine Military press
160x 15 4 sets
High back row (rear delts)
160 x 15 3 sets
Db lateral raises
35x 15 3 sets
Bent Over lateral rasies
30x20 4 sets

[BigMikeC]

Im lagging on getting pics and more vids up but tommarow I will for SURE!!

My buddy owns a powerlifting gym so every sunday the wife and I train there for some variety and heavier workouts

BIG BACK DAY 1/6

Cable lat pushdowns ( its like a DB pullover) This gyms cable have crazy resistance, normal gym I can do the whole stack here 100lbs!!
90x20, 100x15, 100x15, 100x12
Machine Lat pulldown
2plates X 20, 3plates X 20, 4plates X 12, 4plates and a quarter x 10+ 3 forced reps ( no swing, tight form)
Bent Over Barbell Row
225x 15, 275X 15, 315X 12, 315x 12
DB Row
150x8, 115X 15
DB Shrugs (variation slightly bent over to target more rhomboids and lower traps)
115x15 x 3 sets

[halfhuman]

Nice workout and log so far. Keep it up playa

[BigMikeC]

Alrght so a buddy gave me a bottle of hemavol so I tried this. 1 shot of Epic with 1 scoop of hemavol preworkout. The pumps were great! Both products have simialar ingredients and worked well together. Who doesn't love a ton of gylcerol and agmatine before arm day!

Another side note before we get into the nitty gritty. I'm 18 weeks out and haven't done any cheats yet since I started dieting. So I decided last night after I got all my meals in I'd have a planned cheat. Took my lady to the movies and killed some popcorn, Fat free froyo and any other carbs I could get my ands on...

So as you could imagine glycogen levels were maxed out for todays arm session

Here's how it went down.

Arms 1/7

21's (7low, 7 high, 7 ful range of motion)
95lbs x 4 sets
Seated onearm c0oncetration curls
35lbsx12 4 sets
Standing Hammer curls ( 5 reps the alternate sides)
50lbs x15(eachside) 5 sets
Seated Preacher curl machine
120lbsx8+2, 100x12, 100x12, 100x10
CAble tricep Ext
150(Stack) x 20-25 4 sets
Skullcrushers ( on an incline bench) w/ close grip bench burnout after each set
95lbsx15 x 4 sets
Dips
15 reps 3 sets

Arms were fried. Feeling harder. Noticing more vascularity. EpiAndro and 17ProAndro are starting to kick in at this point

Will post a video with my dreaded BEFORE PICS!! Stay tuned

[BigMikeC]

Nobody likes posting there before pics... But here we go... Keep following me guys to see me go from off season FAT to precontest LEAN!

[AaronJP1]

Alrght so a buddy gave me a bottle of hemavol so I tried this. 1 shot of Epic with 1 scoop of hemavol preworkout. The pumps were great! Both products have simialar ingredients and worked well together. Who doesn't love a ton of gylcerol and agmatine before arm day!

Another side note before we get into the nitty gritty. I'm 18 weeks out and haven't done any cheats yet since I started dieting. So I decided last night after I got all my meals in I'd have a planned cheat. Took my lady to the movies and killed some popcorn, Fat free froyo and any other carbs I could get my ands on...

So as you could imagine glycogen levels were maxed out for todays arm session

Here's how it went down.

Arms 1/7

21's (7low, 7 high, 7 ful range of motion)
95lbs x 4 sets
Seated onearm c0oncetration curls
35lbsx12 4 sets
Standing Hammer curls ( 5 reps the alternate sides)
50lbs x15(eachside) 5 sets
Seated Preacher curl machine
120lbsx8+2, 100x12, 100x12, 100x10
CAble tricep Ext
150(Stack) x 20-25 4 sets
Skullcrushers ( on an incline bench) w/ close grip bench burnout after each set
95lbsx15 x 4 sets
Dips
15 reps 3 sets

Arms were fried. Feeling harder. Noticing more vascularity. EpiAndro and 17ProAndro are starting to kick in at this point

Will post a video with my dreaded BEFORE PICS!! Stay tuned

That has to be light weight too you big Mike?

-Purus Labs Rep
(Mobile Posting)

[BigMikeC]

That has to be light weight too you big Mike?

-Purus Labs Rep
(Mobile Posting)

Yea arms I keep pretty light. Reps and volume seem to be the best approach for my body. I get enough of the heavy stimulus from heavy chest or back workouts. Bent over rows with 315lbs will def thicken your biceps as well as your back you now what I mean? My problem is I have a longer bicep so It's hard for my to have a lot of shap i.e "peaks". So I tend to attack arms with shaping movements.

[BigMikeC]

Alright slammed breakfast (homemade protien bar) and 2 scoops whey isolate
1.5 EpiAndro and 2ml of 17ProAndro
1Shot of Epic and 1 scoop of Hemavol
and I was off to grow deez wheeeellss.

Today will be hard to translate on paper. The weight seems very light and it is. But I really squeezed and trained for the pump today. Stretching in between each set. Trying to engorge the muscle with as much blood as possible.

Legs 1/8

Lying leg curl. Each leg isoaterally(This is done on old school Nautilus machine where the arm is actually between your knees. Dont lie down. Push your upper body up and when you contract your hamstring rotate you heel in.
If your not hitting failure around 15-18 your not squeezing hard enough. Weight was very light 3rd pin hole ( maybe 80lbs). 4 sets

Single Leg standing leg curl. When you contract actually lift your whole leg back to contract your hamstring. You actually have to elan slightly on the oppiste side of the leg being trained. Rotate heel in towards your body. More of a pumping movement. You can get a full contraction when your leg is bent just below 90 degree if done correctly.
20-25 reps what was roughly around 40ish lbs. 3 sets Hammies should be on fire by 15 if done correctly

Lying hamsting Curl. Both legs. AS you contract your hammstring lift your quads off the pad and tighten your glutes. Get a full range of motion here. Should feel the burn at the top of te hamstring. 120x15 3 sets

Seated Quad Extension. Rotate your toes and quads in towards top of the movement.
140 x20 4 sets

Hack Squat. Heels together. Towards top of platform. All the way down and 85% up. You dont want to lock out. Stay tight in the whole and make sure your keeping your quads involved.
0lbsx20 reps, two quarters x 20, 4 quarters x 20, 4 quarters x 20, 4 quarters x 20

Lunges on smith machine. make sure each lunge is deep and long steps. Get everything involved, glutes, quads, hammies, eveb my hip flexors were burning
35 on each side 20 on each leg 2 sets I reached failure on each set.

I started actually feeling hypo after this workout. Even though the weight was MUCH less than my normal lifts. The intensity was there! Pumps were crazy! Noticing some viens starting to come through on my quads. Could see some fibers twitching as I was doing quad extensions.

[BigMikeC]

Key points so far
*My weight is holding at 240lbs
* My body is slowly starting to show somes "cuts"
* Loosing my off season bloat
* Increased vascularity
Sides so far
* Started getting some "BACNE"..
This is kinda normal for me on cycle but I notice that I had a out break the alst couple days ( at least I know its working)

Chest 1/9/2013

Today I continued in the fashion of my last few workouts and left my EGO at the door. Trained for shape today.

CAble Flys
55x20, 65x20, 75x15, 90x15, 100x15
Incline DB press
120lbs x 12, 120lbsx10, 95x 10
Incline Barbell
225x 15, 245x12, 245x10
Pec dek
90x20 3sets
Cable flys low pully super set with incline db flys
75lbsx12-15 reps super sets w/ 55lbs x 12 2 rotations
Cable fly low pully super set with cable shrug variation ( contract chest onthe negative of the movement)
65lbs x 12 w/ Stack x 25 2 rotations

ABs 3 sets of 30
Seated calves 3 sets of 30

[Cary K]

Key points so far
*My weight is holding at 240lbs
* My body is slowly starting to show somes "cuts"
* Loosing my off season bloat
* Increased vascularity
Sides so far
* Started getting some "BACNE"..
This is kinda normal for me on cycle but I notice that I had a out break the alst couple days ( at least I know its working)

Chest 1/9/2013

Today I continued in the fashion of my last few workouts and left my EGO at the door. Trained for shape today.

CAble Flys
55x20, 65x20, 75x15, 90x15, 100x15
Incline DB press
120lbs x 12, 120lbsx10, 95x 10
Incline Barbell
225x 15, 245x12, 245x10
Pec dek
90x20 3sets
Cable flys low pully super set with incline db flys
75lbsx12-15 reps super sets w/ 55lbs x 12 2 rotations
Cable fly low pully super set with cable shrug variation ( contract chest onthe negative of the movement)
65lbs x 12 w/ Stack x 25 2 rotations

ABs 3 sets of 30
Seated calves 3 sets of 30

Hell of a workout bro!! I might borrow a few of those exercises for my chest day tomorrow

[thehulk0316]

So for the average consumer it seems like, at least for the type of dosage it recommends, this would be costly. Maybe two-three bottles of each bottle for a decent cycle. Or am I reading this completely wrong?

[BigMikeC]

So for the average consumer it seems like, at least for the type of dosage it recommends, this would be costly. Maybe two-three bottles of each bottle for a decent cycle. Or am I reading this completely wrong?

If you take the recommended dose on each bottle then youll get a month out of each bottle. Most guys find that with our pH's 6-8 week cycles yeild the best results..