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  1.  08-23-2012  09:19 PM
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    What kind of warm up are you doing? If I don't warm up well I suffer shoulder pain. Something else that helps me I just got this week is Phoenix Kineticream. It is a remake of an oldie by the same formulator, totally worth it in my eyes.
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    Originally Posted by oufinny
    What kind of warm up are you doing? If I don't warm up well I suffer shoulder pain. Something else that helps me I just got this week is Phoenix Kineticream. It is a remake of an oldie by the same formulator, totally worth it in my eyes.
    Arm rotations with humerus perpendicular and then parallel to floor as well as the broomstick stretch like in the video.

    I never use to have shoulder issues and could do behind the neck BB presses, but that is what initiated the injury this time. Then chucking a softball from the outfield a few times was a dumb ass move on my part. I warmed up good, but I had not thrown in about a year.

    Less pain this morning and more ROM, so tonight I'll start the broomstick mobility stretches.

    I'll be taking a lot better care of my shoulder after this. It is the same shoulder I injured in a motorcycle accident in '04. Broke my scapula and had fractures across the glenoid surface in the joint. So at some point I should need arthroscopic surgery to clean out spurring.

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    Ouch man. Glad it's starting to feel better though.
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    Originally Posted by ChainLink View Post
    Arm rotations with humerus perpendicular and then parallel to floor as well as the broomstick stretch like in the video.

    I never use to have shoulder issues and could do behind the neck BB presses, but that is what initiated the injury this time. Then chucking a softball from the outfield a few times was a dumb ass move on my part. I warmed up good, but I had not thrown in about a year.

    Less pain this morning and more ROM, so tonight I'll start the broomstick mobility stretches.

    I'll be taking a lot better care of my shoulder after this. It is the same shoulder I injured in a motorcycle accident in '04. Broke my scapula and had fractures across the glenoid surface in the joint. So at some point I should need arthroscopic surgery to clean out spurring.
    Thats a pretty serious injury, glad its starting to feel better.

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    Workout was good today. The shoulder injury kept me very strict on form with curls, so it was hard to get that good contraction at the top end by rolling the shoulders forward a bit, but good workout nonetheless.

    Todays lifts:

    BB Curls
    80#'s x 10-3-2 (no change from last session)

    Reverse BB Curls
    50#'s x 11-3-3 (+1rep)

    Squats
    275#'s x 8 (+1 rep)
    225#'s x 20 (-2reps, +30#'s)

    Lying Leg Curls
    120#'s x 7-4-4

    Donkey Calve Raises
    135#'s x 21

    Felt pumped everywhere after the squats. Starting to see some vascularity in the anterior and posterior lower legs.

    Did not count calories/macros for 8/24, but definitely hit 4k cals with plenty of carbs (not healthy ones) and protein. Back on track today with diet.

    Shoulder continues to improve, but definitely will put me out of pressing for at least another full week if not two. I'll assess pulling motion on Tuesday.

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    Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    What kind of warm up are you doing? If I don't warm up well I suffer shoulder pain. Something else that helps me I just got this week is Phoenix Kineticream. It is a remake of an oldie by the same formulator, totally worth it in my eyes.
    Will look into this. Also, do any of you feel like cissus would help with this type of pain/injury? Or is it pretty much for osteo support?

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    I actually aggravated my A.C. joint doing behind the neck BB presses a year ago. Really messed things up. Thought I'd have to have surgery, had very limited ROM for 2 weeks. Couldn't lift my arm higher than shoulder and rotation hurt like a SOB. Yours, heck of a lot worse though. Lol. Keep an eye on it man.

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    Originally Posted by ChainLink View Post
    Will look into this. Also, do any of you feel like cissus would help with this type of pain/injury? Or is it pretty much for osteo support?
    Of all the joint support supps, I've tried a lot, Universal Animal Flex has my vote. It has it all, Cissus is over rated in my eyes. I used to think it was good but now I no longer impressed at all.
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    ROM and strength have improved a lot over the last two days. Pretty sure pulling movements are a go for tomorrow, but will keep it light to avoid a set back in recovery.

    Macros were pretty high again yesterday, probably about 3500 cals with 1000 cals of that coming from beer (FF draft day).

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    Glad you're feeling better.

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    Originally Posted by ChainLink View Post
    ROM and strength have improved a lot over the last two days. Pretty sure pulling movements are a go for tomorrow, but will keep it light to avoid a set back in recovery.

    Macros were pretty high again yesterday, probably about 3500 cals with 1000 cals of that coming from beer (FF draft day).
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    Should be back to pressing lightly by next week. Tried some decline hammer today with 45's on and felt only a little discomfort, but I didn't push it. Ended up doing:

    Hammer Lat Pulldowns
    230#'s x 8-5-4

    T-Bar Row
    180#'s x 8-3-3

    Machine Dips (no pain on these)
    230#'s x 16-8-4

    Went ahead and did some bi's for the hell of it:

    Pinwheel Curls Drop-sets
    35's x 12
    30's x 7
    25's x 6
    20's x 8

    Shoulder complex felt fatigued, but good.

    I am currently using 3 pumps of Derm/day. I was using 5 and had some itchy nips. My pre-existing gyno flares up easy. Been at 3 pumps for about 4 days and sides have subsided. Will up to 4 pumps tomorrow.

    My muscles are starting to feel and look fuller and libido is starting to hit randomly throughout the day, especially when in the presence of tail. Alpha feeling is coming on steady.

    It's been hard to judge weight gain. I was 219 yesterday morning and 215 this morning. Prob a combo of estro dropping and diet back on track.

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    Itchy nips ftw!! Time for some FormaSurge and up the Derm!
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    Originally Posted by tallguy34
    Itchy nips ftw!! Time for some FormaSurge and up the Derm!
    BPS has sent me some, just waiting for it and then it's on. I don't want anyone getting put off by Dermacrine causing estro sides. I get gyno flares by looking at test.lol. But I know my body and handle it accordingly. One day, it shall be cut out... and the blast and cruise will begin.

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    Originally Posted by ChainLink View Post
    BPS has sent me some, just waiting for it and then it's on. I don't want anyone getting put off by Dermacrine causing estro sides. I get gyno flares by looking at test.lol. But I know my body and handle it accordingly. One day, it shall be cut out... and the blast and cruise will begin.
    Everyone is affected differently by products though. Like guys that get gyno from Havoc vs guys that don't. I'd prefer to know that it's possible so if someone tells us they are gyno prone then we can recommend FormaSurge to them immediately instead of them finding out later down the line they need it and don't have it.
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    Originally Posted by ChainLink View Post
    BPS has sent me some, just waiting for it and then it's on. I don't want anyone getting put off by Dermacrine causing estro sides. I get gyno flares by looking at test.lol. But I know my body and handle it accordingly. One day, it shall be cut out... and the blast and cruise will begin.
    If that is the case than Dermacrine would surely be the one to do it as it has a high conversion rate, its the nature of DHEA.
    That said, with an AI its all good.
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    Originally Posted by oufinny

    If that is the case than Dermacrine would surely be the one to do it as it has a high conversion rate, its the nature of DHEA.
    That said, with an AI its all good.
    Yep and I knew this when starting. What was odd is when I used PP's original Dermacrine LV, I had only a little bloat, but no other noticeable sides. That form of oral DHEA administration worked very well for me as my aggression was high and focused, libido was unreal and both strength and ability to maintain high intensity of cardio resulted. Hoping to get the same effect from the this transdermal.

    I've been doing 2-3 caps of erase/day, but still had the estro sides so it will be interesting to see if the formasurge controls it a little better.

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    Originally Posted by tallguy34

    Everyone is affected differently by products though. Like guys that get gyno from Havoc vs guys that don't. I'd prefer to know that it's possible so if someone tells us they are gyno prone then we can recommend FormaSurge to them immediately instead of them finding out later down the line they need it and don't have it.
    I am one of those guys.lol. At week 3 of havok/epistane i start to look soft and watery with puffy nips. Tried it on two separate occasions with the same results.

    I think an ideal stack might be DAA, Dermacrine and Formasurge. Any of you think DAA would have any use run alongside and post rather than just using it in pct?

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    Originally Posted by ChainLink View Post
    I am one of those guys.lol. At week 3 of havok/epistane i start to look soft and watery with puffy nips. Tried it on two separate occasions with the same results.

    I think an ideal stack might be DAA, Dermacrine and Formasurge. Any of you think DAA would have any use run alongside and post rather than just using it in pct?
    Sure. DAA would help mitigate any Testosterone suppression caused by the dermacrine.
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