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    Quote Originally Posted by jwa254 View Post
    good stuff!
    yes indeed...the deep sleep and dreams are from endo are fantastic....tomorrow morning before i go to bed i am gonna watch some porn...dreaming of big titties and nice round butts should give me morning wood no matter how low my test is!!!!
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    ok, a bit of good news...all day i slept and rested, thought i had to go in for ot tonight...last minute it was cancelled, so going to pop 2 endo's and try out a new pre-work then go for a all out workout in my basement gym!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    yes indeed...the deep sleep and dreams are from endo are fantastic....tomorrow morning before i go to bed i am gonna watch some porn...dreaming of big titties and nice round butts should give me morning wood no matter how low my test is!!!!
    In for porn lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by BulkPerf View Post
    In for porn lol
    i can't believe how good the women in porn look today...back in the day they looked like they were whorehouse rejects.... didn't stop me from watching!!!!! but damn, the girls today look like cover girls, wow!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Lets get this party started...

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    just had a fantastic workout...had a ton of energy, was all over the place. bp's curls presses extentions inclines declines i think i hit every piece of equiptment in my gym, and i have accumulated a lot over the years. really felt good, hell i have felt good all day today, best day i've had in awhile!!!!

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    He's Baaack!! Lol
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    [QUOTE=AZMIDLYF;3576080]He's Baaack!! Lol[/QUOTE


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    1 week review:

    mood- improved
    aggression-improved
    libido-improved
    strength-about the same
    body composition-about the same...i consider this a good thing!!!
    weight-unchanged....again, this is a good thing-i had been losing what had to be lbm!!!
    sleep-big improvement
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt
    1 week review:

    mood- improved
    aggression-improved
    libido-improved
    strength-about the same
    body composition-about the same...i consider this a good thing!!!
    weight-unchanged....again, this is a good thing-i had been losing what had to be lbm!!!
    sleep-big improvement
    Those are all BIG improvements! hell yea T! The better sleep sounds like an IDEAL situation for me : ) maybe then I can stop taking damn ambien, which apparently is the worst thing in the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Those are all BIG improvements! hell yea T! The better sleep sounds like an IDEAL situation for me : ) maybe then I can stop taking damn ambien, which apparently is the worst thing in the world

    When is your next appointment for labs?
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    Yeah I've heard some crazy **** about Ambien
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwa254
    Yeah I've heard some crazy **** about Ambien
    Increase in mortality and cancer... Awesome! I don't know which is worse dying early later OR insomnia now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Those are all BIG improvements! hell yea T! The better sleep sounds like an IDEAL situation for me : ) maybe then I can stop taking damn ambien, which apparently is the worst thing in the world

    When is your next appointment for labs?
    the better sleep IS a big deal, i agree 100% and that's not counting the dreams...it's like whatever i am thinking about when i fall asleep, i dream about!!!

    next labs is 9/21 then doc on 9/24.

    really noticing some very decent improvements for just a week in...
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    how long does it take for formasurge to kick in
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    Quote Originally Posted by line6reed View Post
    how long does it take for formasurge to kick in
    i would say that most people should feel effects within the 1st 3 days, by the end of a week you should be rolling....i just finished my 1st week on it, and effects are noticeable even though my test level is VERY low-someone with normal range test levels should get even more pronounced effects than what i got, imo.
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    woke up tonight with very achey joints...holy cow, didn't want to get out of bed!!! going to cut back to 1 pump for tonight and in the morning, with my test being so low i think a week+ of formasurge has got my estrogen down a little too low!!!!


    on a brighter note:
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    That makes total sense T. I know mine is borderline and I sure don't need much AI for results.
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    Nice to see you are enjoying the stack with improvements in overall life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    Nice to see you are enjoying the stack with improvements in overall life.
    definately...i don't have bloods to show that test has increased but quality of life certainly has!!!

    after a day of 1 pump 2xday my joints fet much better so taday i went with 2 pumps this morning and 1 tonight, if everthing is good then tomorrow i will go back to 2 pumps 2xday....

    sleep and libido both continue to improve, and the dreams are nothing short of fantastic-honestly, i don't remember dreams except for when i am on endosurge, amazing how much difference a otc supp can make!!!

    i think i brought the achey joints on myself, 4 pumps of formasurge 2xday was definately overkill...i have learned my lesson!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt

    definately...i don't have bloods to show that test has increased but quality of life certainly has!!!

    after a day of 1 pump 2xday my joints fet much better so taday i went with 2 pumps this morning and 1 tonight, if everthing is good then tomorrow i will go back to 2 pumps 2xday....

    sleep and libido both continue to improve, and the dreams are nothing short of fantastic-honestly, i don't remember dreams except for when i am on endosurge, amazing how much difference a otc supp can make!!!

    i think i brought the achey joints on myself, 4 pumps of formasurge 2xday was definately overkill...i have learned my lesson!!!!
    Really glad to hear that quality of life has been so much better buddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez

    Why are you yelling at me?! ; )
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt

    definately...i don't have bloods to show that test has increased but quality of life certainly has!!!

    after a day of 1 pump 2xday my joints fet much better so taday i went with 2 pumps this morning and 1 tonight, if everthing is good then tomorrow i will go back to 2 pumps 2xday....

    sleep and libido both continue to improve, and the dreams are nothing short of fantastic-honestly, i don't remember dreams except for when i am on endosurge, amazing how much difference a otc supp can make!!!

    i think i brought the achey joints on myself, 4 pumps of formasurge 2xday was definately overkill...i have learned my lesson!!!!
    Hell yeh bro. 4 pumps twice per day? No wonder your joints hurt...lol. You could probably get by with it if you were still on test, but without your estrogen would just get too low
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Hell yeh bro. 4 pumps twice per day? No wonder your joints hurt...lol. You could probably get by with it if you were still on test, but without your estrogen would just get too low
    you know me, i always push the limit....what i was thinking was running it high would give me some androgenic[i think thats a word] benefits. no harm done though, everything is good back at 2 pumps 2xday!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiianhulk View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt

    agreed!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    I'm glad its working out so well for you buddy: )
    thank you, i appreciate that!!!!
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    lazy day today...took the dog to the park for a light jog and started to rain. no grandkids this weekend so just chillin watchin tv.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwa254 View Post
    Nothing wrong with a lazy day
    just so there aren't too many of them....had a decent workout in my basement gym this morning, feel pretty good today-must have really needed trhat lazy day, lol.
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    i've lost strength no doubt about it, but was able to gut out a decent workout today. i really feel like i have taken 3 steps backwards, but today i felt like i got 1 of those steps back.


    sleep continues to be much better with the endosurge, and it is almost like i can control amd manipulate my dreams, which is the coolest thing ever!!! for many years i have dreaded bed time because i have so much trouble falling asleep, i have really been looking forward to bed time!!! libido isn't what is was on trt, but i am still knocking it out of the park every chance i get!!!!
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    Keep swinging for the fences bubba!! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Yeah, she rings my bells too!!
    ringadingding.....damn, a night with her would do more for test level than a 10mg vial of test cyp!!!!!
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    had another good workout today, strength is coming back in baby steps, but i feel like i am hanging in there!!! best part was the pump i got today, best pump i have felt since going off trt, really felt great. had sex twice today !st time in quite awhile, that felt even better!!!!


    not going to say that my test is 700 again, without bloods that would be ignorant to say that....but i am feeling like improvements are being made.




    formasurge/endosurge are making a difference, i feel confident in saying that!!!!
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