BPS-FORMASURGE/ENDOSURGE

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Lmao!! Tom, ya old burnout!!
    lol---in 3 months i will be celebrating 15 years of sobriety...believe me my partying days are behind me...but growing up in the 70's was a lot of fun!!!!
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!


  2. Quote Originally Posted by metroba View Post
    Sounds like a fun party. Doing squats, taking bong hits and rubbing formestane all over each other....wait wut? Only in the '50s.

    50's huh......lol
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by metroba View Post


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  4. gonna be doing this stack in a few months. In for the learning. Thanks for sharing
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  5. Still crack up watching this!!
    Always open light. It’s not what you open with, it’s what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  6. Quote Originally Posted by alfredm005 View Post
    gonna be doing this stack in a few months. In for the learning. Thanks for sharing
    if you have any questions that aren't covered in the log feel free to pm me!!!
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  7. day 3:

    i slept really good last night, can't really say endosurge plated a role since i usually sleep well on weekends-it's the only time i can sleep at night...just thought i would throw the good nights sleep out there.

    the fantastic vivid dreams haven't started yet, i think it was around day 5 when they started the last time i ran endosurge-really looking forward to them!!!

    still dosing the formasurge 2xday, i dosed 3 pumps this morning but going to go with 2 pumps starting tonight before work.

    no huge boost in libido from the formasurge yet, usually i would have noticed this by now, but after 4 years of being on trt it might take a little longer.


    i am already pretty lean[for me anyways]since i have been running a fatburner/stim combo] but i dropped a lb so far of what has to be water, even though i have been sweating and peeing like a mofo!!!


    the biggest thing i have noticed is aggression and confidence have gone up, i woke up this morning feeling like whatever life thows at me i can handle...don't know if this is due to this stack or just placebo-but i like it!!!!
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  8. Little help for dat der libido..

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    I'd like to throw her in a spin cycle!!
    Always open light. It’s not what you open with, it’s what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  9. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Little help for dat der libido..

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    I'd like to throw her in a spin cycle!!
    my imagination is working overtime....
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  10. ok, just did 2 pumps formasurge to shoulder area. took my 3rd dose of endosurge 10 minutes before i ate my before work meal.

    mood is really good....hope it stays that way at work, lol.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  11. been wondering why i haven't been seeing much from the formasurge yet, usually i get same day effects....my test results from last wed just came back-total test was 87!!! my test level has tanked, so it is going to take a little longer to feel effects of formasurge/endosurge-at least that is my thinking....good news/bad news..my liver values have improved slightly-this is good since the liver is so important, but might keep me off trt if doc determines test cyp is causing the high liver values!!!

    i might even go to 4 pumps tonight to see if that helps any, it will eat up the bottle of formasurge quickly...but if i feel better i will just buy another, might even get a bottle of dermacrine!!!
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  12. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt
    been wondering why i haven't been seeing much from the formasurge yet, usually i get same day effects....my test results from last wed just came back-total test was 87!!! my test level has tanked, so it is going to take a little longer to feel effects of formasurge/endosurge-at least that is my thinking....good news/bad news..my liver values have improved slightly-this is good since the liver is so important, but might keep me off trt if doc determines test cyp is causing the high liver values!!!

    i might even go to 4 pumps tonight to see if that helps any, it will eat up the bottle of formasurge quickly...but if i feel better i will just buy another, might even get a bottle of dermacrine!!!
    Holy shít! Total T 720 to 87?! F dude! I'm sorry to hear that : (

    Are you going to do another blood test any time soon? Sorry i'm at the fire station so I kinda just skimmed through.

    The testosterone cypionate raised your liver levels? And you were on injections... Hmmm...? I know you already said that, it was kinda rhetorical, i'm just a little surprised.

    Did the doc say that it's just the way your body is metabolizing it? You're not on adex, any other rx/otc meds? Needless to say, subbed. Hormones interest me quite a bit. Good luck T.
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Holy shít! Total T 720 to 87?! F dude! I'm sorry to hear that : (

    Are you going to do another blood test any time soon? Sorry i'm at the fire station so I kinda just skimmed through.

    The testosterone cypionate raised your liver levels? And you were on injections... Hmmm...? I know you already said that, it was kinda rhetorical, i'm just a little surprised.

    Did the doc say that it's just the way your body is metabolizing it? You're not on adex, any other rx/otc meds? Needless to say, subbed. Hormones interest me quite a bit. Good luck T.
    my estrogen has never been high enough for doc to prescribe prescription ai's, but i dabble often in otc ai's, with formestane being my favorite!!!

    yup went from 720 to 83 actually-just got a copy of results-on the phone i thought nurse said 87, but it was 83.... on last test ast was 49 down from 53 and alt was 101 down from 104...so the answer is yes, i will be getting bloods done often to monitor liver values!!!

    i tell you, having low test really, truely sucks the big one. hopefully the formasurge/endosurge combo will start having an effect soon!!! going to go with 4 pumps before work tonight!!!
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  14. Tom, have you ever given DAA a thought? I react well to it and it might bump you up as well.
    Always open light. It’s not what you open with, it’s what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  15. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF
    Tom, have you ever given DAA a thought? I react well to it and it might bump you up as well.
    Could help but with levels that low I don't know of anything otc that's really going to do it... Even if he gets the full 40% boost in T he's looking at 110 give or take...
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  16. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Tom, have you ever given DAA a thought? I react well to it and it might bump you up as well.
    i have been thinking about that az, good idea....but 1st in all fairness i want to see what the fromasurge/endosurge combo can do. if my next blood comes back with little improvement then i will add to it.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Could help but with levels that low I don't know of anything otc that's really going to do it... Even if he gets the full 40% boost in T he's looking at 110 give or take...
    valid point..plus the fact that i am commited to see what forma/endo can do.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt

    i have been thinking about that az, good idea....but 1st in all fairness i want to see what the fromasurge/endosurge combo can do. if my next blood comes back with little improvement then i will add to it.
    I'm sure they've done the whole work up hormone wise... Have you had an MRI to check your pituitary? How old are you if you don't mind me asking.

    Hope we see some results brother. I couldn't even imagine the shut down you've been feeling.
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    I'm sure they've done the whole work up hormone wise... Have you had an MRI to check your pituitary? How old are you if you don't mind me asking.

    Hope we see some results brother. I couldn't even imagine the shut down you've been feeling.
    never had a mri...was diagnosed as primary....the main thing is no desire-the plumbing works just not in the mood, this is huge for me. plus no energy or motivation, been relying on stims even more than usual.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  20. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt

    never had a mri...was diagnosed as primary....the main thing is no desire-the plumbing works just not in the mood, this is huge for me. plus no energy or motivation, been relying on stims even more than usual.
    Well yea dude that makes sense that you don't have the desire... Your T levels are EXTREMELY low. If I were you I would get a referral to see an endocrinologist. That way you can look into why your levels are so low. Find the cause instead of relying on the injections.

    Sorry to derail : ) i'm excited to see what these products do for you in your specific circumstance. It def puts them to the test!
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  21. Excellent advice, Valdez. I like you already.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Well yea dude that makes sense that you don't have the desire... Your T levels are EXTREMELY low. If I were you I would get a referral to see an endocrinologist. That way you can look into why your levels are so low. Find the cause instead of relying on the injections.

    Sorry to derail : ) i'm excited to see what these products do for you in your specific circumstance. It def puts them to the test!
    i am sure an endo is in my future....like you i am definately looking to see what these products can do in my situation, even if i can get to 200-250 range it would be a huge help!!!
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  23. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt

    i am sure an endo is in my future....like you i am definately looking to see what these products can do in my situation, even if i can get to 200-250 range it would be a huge help!!!
    No dude, not "I am sure" lol... You gotta get in there. Testosterone is CRUCIAL for Mens health. 200-250 is still too low...

    When I go below 700 I feel like shít. I have no idea how you're adjusting lol! You getting enough sleep? Any environmental factors that you know of? Diets on point? If so, something is internally wrong and you gotta get it fixed.

    I'll get off my soap box now ; )

    Also, if this stack gets you up to 250, you'll find me purchasing a cycle shortly thereafter. : ) soooooooo show me some results, for BPS!!
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  24. late, but in.
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