BPS-FORMASURGE/ENDOSURGE

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  1. Still crack up watching this!!
    Always open light. It’s not what you open with, it’s what you finish with. Louie Simmons


  2. Quote Originally Posted by alfredm005 View Post
    gonna be doing this stack in a few months. In for the learning. Thanks for sharing
    if you have any questions that aren't covered in the log feel free to pm me!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID
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  3. day 3:

    i slept really good last night, can't really say endosurge plated a role since i usually sleep well on weekends-it's the only time i can sleep at night...just thought i would throw the good nights sleep out there.

    the fantastic vivid dreams haven't started yet, i think it was around day 5 when they started the last time i ran endosurge-really looking forward to them!!!

    still dosing the formasurge 2xday, i dosed 3 pumps this morning but going to go with 2 pumps starting tonight before work.

    no huge boost in libido from the formasurge yet, usually i would have noticed this by now, but after 4 years of being on trt it might take a little longer.


    i am already pretty lean[for me anyways]since i have been running a fatburner/stim combo] but i dropped a lb so far of what has to be water, even though i have been sweating and peeing like a mofo!!!


    the biggest thing i have noticed is aggression and confidence have gone up, i woke up this morning feeling like whatever life thows at me i can handle...don't know if this is due to this stack or just placebo-but i like it!!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  4. Little help for dat der libido..

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    I'd like to throw her in a spin cycle!!
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Little help for dat der libido..

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    I'd like to throw her in a spin cycle!!
    my imagination is working overtime....
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  6. ok, just did 2 pumps formasurge to shoulder area. took my 3rd dose of endosurge 10 minutes before i ate my before work meal.

    mood is really good....hope it stays that way at work, lol.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  7. been wondering why i haven't been seeing much from the formasurge yet, usually i get same day effects....my test results from last wed just came back-total test was 87!!! my test level has tanked, so it is going to take a little longer to feel effects of formasurge/endosurge-at least that is my thinking....good news/bad news..my liver values have improved slightly-this is good since the liver is so important, but might keep me off trt if doc determines test cyp is causing the high liver values!!!

    i might even go to 4 pumps tonight to see if that helps any, it will eat up the bottle of formasurge quickly...but if i feel better i will just buy another, might even get a bottle of dermacrine!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  8. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt
    been wondering why i haven't been seeing much from the formasurge yet, usually i get same day effects....my test results from last wed just came back-total test was 87!!! my test level has tanked, so it is going to take a little longer to feel effects of formasurge/endosurge-at least that is my thinking....good news/bad news..my liver values have improved slightly-this is good since the liver is so important, but might keep me off trt if doc determines test cyp is causing the high liver values!!!

    i might even go to 4 pumps tonight to see if that helps any, it will eat up the bottle of formasurge quickly...but if i feel better i will just buy another, might even get a bottle of dermacrine!!!
    Holy shít! Total T 720 to 87?! F dude! I'm sorry to hear that : (

    Are you going to do another blood test any time soon? Sorry i'm at the fire station so I kinda just skimmed through.

    The testosterone cypionate raised your liver levels? And you were on injections... Hmmm...? I know you already said that, it was kinda rhetorical, i'm just a little surprised.

    Did the doc say that it's just the way your body is metabolizing it? You're not on adex, any other rx/otc meds? Needless to say, subbed. Hormones interest me quite a bit. Good luck T.
    The Physique Biochemist
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    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Holy shít! Total T 720 to 87?! F dude! I'm sorry to hear that : (

    Are you going to do another blood test any time soon? Sorry i'm at the fire station so I kinda just skimmed through.

    The testosterone cypionate raised your liver levels? And you were on injections... Hmmm...? I know you already said that, it was kinda rhetorical, i'm just a little surprised.

    Did the doc say that it's just the way your body is metabolizing it? You're not on adex, any other rx/otc meds? Needless to say, subbed. Hormones interest me quite a bit. Good luck T.
    my estrogen has never been high enough for doc to prescribe prescription ai's, but i dabble often in otc ai's, with formestane being my favorite!!!

    yup went from 720 to 83 actually-just got a copy of results-on the phone i thought nurse said 87, but it was 83.... on last test ast was 49 down from 53 and alt was 101 down from 104...so the answer is yes, i will be getting bloods done often to monitor liver values!!!

    i tell you, having low test really, truely sucks the big one. hopefully the formasurge/endosurge combo will start having an effect soon!!! going to go with 4 pumps before work tonight!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  10. Tom, have you ever given DAA a thought? I react well to it and it might bump you up as well.
    Always open light. It’s not what you open with, it’s what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  11. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF
    Tom, have you ever given DAA a thought? I react well to it and it might bump you up as well.
    Could help but with levels that low I don't know of anything otc that's really going to do it... Even if he gets the full 40% boost in T he's looking at 110 give or take...
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  12. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Tom, have you ever given DAA a thought? I react well to it and it might bump you up as well.
    i have been thinking about that az, good idea....but 1st in all fairness i want to see what the fromasurge/endosurge combo can do. if my next blood comes back with little improvement then i will add to it.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Could help but with levels that low I don't know of anything otc that's really going to do it... Even if he gets the full 40% boost in T he's looking at 110 give or take...
    valid point..plus the fact that i am commited to see what forma/endo can do.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  14. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt

    i have been thinking about that az, good idea....but 1st in all fairness i want to see what the fromasurge/endosurge combo can do. if my next blood comes back with little improvement then i will add to it.
    I'm sure they've done the whole work up hormone wise... Have you had an MRI to check your pituitary? How old are you if you don't mind me asking.

    Hope we see some results brother. I couldn't even imagine the shut down you've been feeling.
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    I'm sure they've done the whole work up hormone wise... Have you had an MRI to check your pituitary? How old are you if you don't mind me asking.

    Hope we see some results brother. I couldn't even imagine the shut down you've been feeling.
    never had a mri...was diagnosed as primary....the main thing is no desire-the plumbing works just not in the mood, this is huge for me. plus no energy or motivation, been relying on stims even more than usual.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  16. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt

    never had a mri...was diagnosed as primary....the main thing is no desire-the plumbing works just not in the mood, this is huge for me. plus no energy or motivation, been relying on stims even more than usual.
    Well yea dude that makes sense that you don't have the desire... Your T levels are EXTREMELY low. If I were you I would get a referral to see an endocrinologist. That way you can look into why your levels are so low. Find the cause instead of relying on the injections.

    Sorry to derail : ) i'm excited to see what these products do for you in your specific circumstance. It def puts them to the test!
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  17. Excellent advice, Valdez. I like you already.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Well yea dude that makes sense that you don't have the desire... Your T levels are EXTREMELY low. If I were you I would get a referral to see an endocrinologist. That way you can look into why your levels are so low. Find the cause instead of relying on the injections.

    Sorry to derail : ) i'm excited to see what these products do for you in your specific circumstance. It def puts them to the test!
    i am sure an endo is in my future....like you i am definately looking to see what these products can do in my situation, even if i can get to 200-250 range it would be a huge help!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  19. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt

    i am sure an endo is in my future....like you i am definately looking to see what these products can do in my situation, even if i can get to 200-250 range it would be a huge help!!!
    No dude, not "I am sure" lol... You gotta get in there. Testosterone is CRUCIAL for Mens health. 200-250 is still too low...

    When I go below 700 I feel like shít. I have no idea how you're adjusting lol! You getting enough sleep? Any environmental factors that you know of? Diets on point? If so, something is internally wrong and you gotta get it fixed.

    I'll get off my soap box now ; )

    Also, if this stack gets you up to 250, you'll find me purchasing a cycle shortly thereafter. : ) soooooooo show me some results, for BPS!!
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  20. late, but in.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    No dude, not "I am sure" lol... You gotta get in there. Testosterone is CRUCIAL for Mens health. 200-250 is still too low...

    When I go below 700 I feel like shít. I have no idea how you're adjusting lol! You getting enough sleep? Any environmental factors that you know of? Diets on point? If so, something is internally wrong and you gotta get it fixed.

    I'll get off my soap box now ; )

    Also, if this stack gets you up to 250, you'll find me purchasing a cycle shortly thereafter. : ) soooooooo show me some results, for BPS!!
    a few years back my doc referred my to an endo...but it was during the busy time of year at my work and the test cyp was working so well that i didn't take time off to make appointments...


    i will keep this log going, and will be posting results!!!

    time to get some sleep before work.


    BTW-THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT, SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  22. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt

    a few years back my doc referred my to an endo...but it was during the busy time of year at my work and the test cyp was working so well that i didn't take time off to make appointments...

    i will keep this log going, and will be posting results!!!

    time to get some sleep before work.

    BTW-THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT, SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE!!!
    Why are you yelling at me?! ; )
    The Physique Biochemist
    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  23. Tom did you liver values spike all the sudden or was this a gradual incline that made him think it may be the test?
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Tom did you liver values spike all the sudden or was this a gradual incline that made him think it may be the test?
    i knew i answere that already but when i looked for that post i couldn't find it...no wonder it is in the bps company section 'big thanks to bulk perf'.


    but for you kleen i will answer again, lol....years of alcoholic drinking have damaged my liver..even though i have been sober for over 14 years i am still paying for it!!! my liver values were a concern when my doc put me on trt, but my test was so low i convinced him to go ahead and try it...i have the feeling that if my test was close to 300 he never would have taken the chance.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  25. went with 4 pumps of formasurge, could feel a decent formestane rush...seemed to give me a boost. i am hoping that endosurge kicks in soon and i start getting those fantastic dreams!!!


    off to work, update tomorrow!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  26. cant wait for the update, boss

  27. Have you looked into Antaeus Labs AEGIS? It is a liver product that is supposed to be the best of the best in new liver supplementation. Sorry for the rewrite. I know how fun it is to have to do that. So far I have only heard great things about Antaeus Labs might be worth a shot.

    Wow look at that paragraph structure. ADHD at it's best...
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  28. Hey Tom, how long has it been since your last test C injection? I know low levels suck. I'm in PCT now after running test, and I miss it so bad right now it isn't funny. Motivation, energy, and libido become more of an issue each day. FormaSurge is helping though!!
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Have you looked into Antaeus Labs AEGIS? It is a liver product that is supposed to be the best of the best in new liver supplementation. Sorry for the rewrite. I know how fun it is to have to do that. So far I have only heard great things about Antaeus Labs might be worth a shot.

    Wow look at that paragraph structure. ADHD at it's best...
    going to google it and take a look, thanks chris!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  30. Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Hey Tom, how long has it been since your last test C injection? I know low levels suck. I'm in PCT now after running test, and I miss it so bad right now it isn't funny. Motivation, energy, and libido become more of an issue each day. FormaSurge is helping though!!
    i can't remember exactly, but i know it's been over a month....motivation/energy/libido really hit an all time low just before starting this stack...i went with 4 pumps formasurge before work last night and i did get a nice boost from it.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID
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