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[p5sky]

Muscle Maintenance Stack for Endurance Training Regiment

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I am entering my triathlon training season and I am getting ready for an Olympic distance (1500m swim/25 mi bike/6.2 mi run) race in Nov. I mainly do strength training year round but with the increased distance my strength training will definitely drop. I am hoping that this stack will allow me to retain as much strength and size during the increased cardio/endurance training.

My strength training will consist of full body workouts of mainly compound exercises with 2 days off in between workouts. I will stick to hi-rep sessions between 10-12 reps for endurance. My tri training will be 5-6 days/week with swim, run, and cycling sessions.

I am not trying to gain size, that will be impossible with this training regiment, but I want to maintain as much as possible. I will note body weight, waist measurements, arm measurements, and strength over the course of the log.

A lil bit about me:
43 years old and awesome
165 lbs ( I will range between 155-175 depending on season/training style)
5ft 7in
training for 10 years consistently

Max lifts, not a concern for this log . . . but just to impress you
bench: 305
deadlift: 365
squat: 365

 

[p5sky]

SUPREMACY

[h=3]Supremacy Supplement Facts[/h] Serving Size: capsule Servings per Container: 90 3 caps per day
	Amount Per Serving % Daily Value Proprietary Pro Matrix: Cissus Quadrangularis Ketosterone Extract, Urtica Dioica Lignan Complex, Momordica Charantia Extract, Indol-3-Carbinol, Vitex Agnus Monoterpene Complex, Forskohlii Diterpine Complex, Piper Nigrum Extract. 695mg **
	* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet. ** Percent Daily Values not established. OTHER INGREDIENTS: Maltodextrin, Gelatin, Magnesium Stearate

ERASE PRO

	[h=3]Erase Pro Supplement Facts[/h] Serving Size: capsule Servings per Container: 30 1 cap per day
	Amount Per Serving % Daily Value Dual Phase Modulation Matrix 500mg ** Site Binding Boerhaavia diffusa (root) Extract In Situ Inhibitor Euonymus alatus (bark) Extract Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione 75mg **
	* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet. ** Percent Daily Values not established. OTHER INGREDIENTS: Gelatin, Maltodextrin, Magnesium Stearate, Silicon Dioxide, FD&C Blue #1, Titanium Dioxide.

 

[Celorza]

Lets see you keep some mass before those triathlons Paul. Subbed.

 

[p5sky]

Day 1

Today's workout is more of a building point, I have been gone for a few weeks so my workouts were non-existent. This just gave me a baseline for things to come as I ease back into it. Obviously I have nothing to report on the stack since I just started today.

Once I get 10 reps for 3 sets I will increase rep to 12 until I get 3 sets, then I will increase wt and go for 10/10/10 once again. Today I kind of went for a circuit style on 3 movements so my rest was minimal therefore my lifts were not as good as previous workouts.

Workout (working sets)
Bench 185x10/10/8
Curls 45x10/10/10
Military Press 135x10/10/8
Lat Pulldown 125x10/10/10
Tri pushdowns 60x10/10/10
Squats 135x10/10/8 I went light because I planned a bike ride later on in the evening. I might even push squats to 15 reps or more.
Plank 3 sets holding for 20 sec

Bike Ride, a short one but that's ok, it is still hot!
7.5 miles
35 min
12.4 mph

 

[p5sky]

sub'd

Lets see you keep some mass before those triathlons Paul. Subbed.

Thanks for the support guys! I have NOT used either one of these, but I have used original Erase. I am hoping the test boost will assist in recovery for the endurance training, therefore allowing me to retain as much muscle as I can. While using other test boosters I get solid strength gains but this is not my objective on this go around.

 

[PrepNwa23]

You know I'm in for this.

 

[p5sky]

You know I'm in for this.

I was just about to post the link in the original Co Promo thread . . . if I can find it, it is probably buried

 

[LiveToLift]

In this

 

[p5sky]

In this

Thanks for hanging out.


I forgot to mention my overall supp regiment so I will clue you in now. They want this to be run as a simple stack other than staples. My essentials will be:

Fish oils
BCAAs (AMS Body Mortar, I need the carbs & electrolytes for the whole body workouts)
Pre-Workout (UltraReps- creatine & beta alanine included in the blend)

For my longer runs and rides I will be suing PowerBar brand Iron Man series Perform & Restore and CytoSport CytoMax.

 

[DkGreek]

Looks great. Best of luck.

 

[p5sky]

Day 2

600yd swim
Main working set was 6x25yd sprints with 30 sec rest intervals

A day after my first workout in a few weeks I am really sore in the pecs and legs, but I am going 2 rest days between strength training so I have recovery time.

 

[PrepNwa23]

Nice swim.

 

[p5sky]

Nice swim.

Thanks, it was a short one but intense. I have a training plan that just started this past week, so these are the early stages to let the muscles get power, as I progress closer to the race date it will be long swims. Next week I may do a training brick (swim/run) with a local triathlon club, a 1000m swim in Long Beach followed by a 8k run.

My main race this year will have a 1200m swim, so this little power workout is NOTHING.

 

[Aleksandar37]

Very interested in this

 

[PrepNwa23]

Thanks, it was a short one but intense. I have a training plan that just started this past week, so these are the early stages to let the muscles get power, as I progress closer to the race date it will be long swims. Next week I may do a training brick (swim/run) with a local triathlon club, a 1000m swim in Long Beach followed by a 8k run.

My main race this year will have a 1200m swim, so this little power workout is NOTHING.

Better man than me there I have no swimming endurance what so ever.

 

[Celorza]

Better man than me there I have no swimming endurance what so ever.

I could not swim that much...and even if I did running little over 5 miles after that would be impossible!...Damn Paul, I never had a teacher in all my life that is able to do this at your age haha, not even my Phys Ed teachers or Football coaches could do that. Respect for being in such a good shape man haha

 

[p5sky]

I could not swim that much...and even if I did running little over 5 miles after that would be impossible!...Damn Paul, I never had a teacher in all my life that is able to do this at your age haha, not even my Phys Ed teachers or Football coaches could do that. Respect for being in such a good shape man haha

Thanks! Our PE teachers are pretty BIG . . . okay, one is enormous. You should've seen my jr hi PE teacher, he was just round. It kills me when I see PE teachers in this shape, they can workout out during their workday and get PAID for it. DO a run with the students, do some stretches, do SOMETHING!

Most people assume I am the PE teacher when I meet them, I also coach 2-3 sports each year . . . I should've gone that route, no papers to grade

Today's workout is a double; I will do wt training this afternoon followed by run training in the evening after it cools down.

 

[bdcc]

Your favourite bro has arrived!

 

[Celorza]

Your favourite bro has arrived!

Watch out for this one, he bails if there's no speedo pics.

 

[p5sky]

Your favorite bro has arrived!

fixed.

I am only 3 days in so you haven't missed anything ground breaking. Let's see if I can keep as much size and strength as possible as my endurance training steps up a notch or two.

 

[p5sky]

Day 4

Workout (working sets)
Hammer Incline Bench 165x10/10/10
Hammer Curls 40x10/10/10
DB Upright Rows 35x12/12/10
CG Cable Rows 130x12/12/12
DB kickbacks 20x12/12/12

Plank holding for 20 sec
-face down, face up, rt side, left side

Abs- leg lifts to the bar 2 sets of 8. Saw these on Crossfit games, the guys did sets of 25! * was good for my first attempts.

Nothing really to report as I am only 4 days in, but I know what to look for Any leaning effect can be a combo of the endurance training and the supps, but aggression, strength gains, bacne are signs of test increase. As those come in to play I will take note.

Later on this evening is my run session, 45 min fartlek!

Run workout
Fartlek training 45 mins. If you are unfamiliar with fartleks that is when you have a base pace and throughout the workout you will increase your speed for short intervals.

Open Fartlek - 45 minutes Start at a base pace for 5 minutes. Accelerate to a faster pace for 1 minute, rest 1 minute. Accelerate for 2, rest 1. Accelerate for 3, rest 1. Accelerate for 2, rest 1. Then accelerate 1 and rest 1. Repeat until tired and then slow down until you reach a full recovery. Continue the speed variations for 40 minutes.

 

[p5sky]

Fartlek run KILLED me . . . maybe the intensity, maybe the heat, maybe the tired muscles from the squats & cycle on the same day.

I ran 4 miles in the 45 min session.
Avg Recovery pace: 10 min/mi
Avg Fast pace: 8 min/mi

I did have some periods of brisk walking during recovery and to cool down the last 10 min.

 

[PrepNwa23]

Holy carp killer workout. It's so nice of the Otter to show up for this.

 

[p5sky]

Day 5

I weighed in this morning at 167, we'll see where that goes over the next 3 weeks. Maybe I should've eased into those full-body workouts after some time off, I am so tired and sore.

Today I've got a bike ride, but I'll wait til the evening when it is cooling off or I'll do ride at the gym in AC

 

[p5sky]

30 min bike ride for 10 miles at the gym. I cut it short from the intended 45 min because I have 2 soccer games tonight.

The soccer is just to fill-in for a short-handed team for the next 4 games, but they also asked me about playing in the next season that starts in late Aug. I originally said yes, but will definitely have to UN-commit as I prepare for my triathlons, coach VB at school, coach soccer in the evening.

 

[PrepNwa23]

30 min bike ride for 10 miles at the gym. I cut it short from the intended 45 min because I have 2 soccer games tonight.

The soccer is just to fill-in for a short-handed team for the next 4 games, but they also asked me about playing in the next season that starts in late Aug. I originally said yes, but will definitely have to UN-commit as I prepare for my triathlons, coach VB at school, coach soccer in the evening.

Busy busy man you are Paul. Good luck with soccer games.

 

[p5sky]

Day 6

My entire body is ACHING! It is probably a combo of the full body routine and the soccer matches, but mostly from the soccer I am sure. I will really start to key in on any possible effects of the stack as I enter week 2, hoping for better recovery and maintaining strength as my endurance training increases.

Today's workout is a swim session:
Warm up with easy freestyle for 300 yards.
Swim drills for 300 yards.
The main set is 1000 yards including:

-4×50
-2×100
-1x200
-2x100
-4×50

Cool down for 200 yards with choice of easy stroke.


Total of 1800 yds

 

[PrepNwa23]

Soccer was always the best cardio for me cause then I wasn't hating the fact I was running around I was distracted.

 

[p5sky]

Day 8

Workout (working sets)
Bench 205x10/10/10
Curls 45x10/10/10
Military Press 135x10/10/8
Lat Pulldown 125x12/12/12
Skullcrushers 85x10/10/10
Plank 3 sets holding for 20 sec
Abs 2 sets of 8, leg lifts toes to the bar.
Plank: front, back, both sides

I didnt feel any stronger, if anything I did not feel as good this workout. It is extremely tiring doing a full body routine and I am doing a decent wt range. Also, the run, swim, cycling training will effect my overall strength/endurance so I may back off on wt a bit.

I am curious to weigh in on Monday because I am seeing more striations in shoulders/upper chest region. So far not so much to report on aggression issues, it might be my training style and mentality when I walk in . . . I am not trying to PR, and I am not going HEAVY so its a different state of mind. But if strength maintains along with size as I progress into the endurance training then I will be happy.

Later tonight a 50 min tempo run . . . after it cools down

 

[p5sky]

Run 50 minutes for 4.25 miles

20 minute warmup at 11 min/mi
15 TEMPO at 9:30 min/mi
15 cool down at 11:30 min/mi

I was never really winded but my muscles need to adapt to distance. I do squats and dead lifts so they have strength, but this is different. I remember my first training run about 6 weeks ago, I felt good overall but I could feel my quads start to ache and burn at mile 3. I did this run at a 10 min/mile pace without prior training, but the muscles had not adapted to distance training yet.

 

[p5sky]

Edited my workout on bench press . . . I was thinking back on the routine and I realized why I was so burned out when I got to military press, I increased my bench from the previous workout by 20 lbs :stupid: Not what I had planned since I did not get 3 sets of 10 on 185. Next workout I will stick with 185 and go for the 12 rep range.

 

[RogerBob]

interested to see if your hair thins. keep me posted

 

[p5sky]

interested to see if your hair thins. keep me posted

I just got a Brazilian wax so I am clean as a whistle, so I will not be able to comment on that issue. Oh, wait!!!! You mean the hair on my HEAD!!! That is different, very different.

I have never had an issue with that, but I will keep my eyes on my drain for you.

 

[p5sky]

Day 9

Quick 13 mile cycling workout for 1 hour. A decent pace for early in training, plus the time lost at stop signs and red lights. Right now I am just getting my body stronger as the mileage builds each week so it is not so much about pace as it is about muscle development.

Just for a comparison, my 1st tri was with minimal training and the cycling was about 14mph. The following year I had more training and the same course I avg 16mph. This same race is at the end of Sept so good 7 weeks of training, and my main race is the Olympic distance and that is in early Nov with 13 weeks of training, plenty of time for progress

 

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Hey

 

[PrepNwa23]

Day 9

Quick 13 mile cycling workout for 1 hour. A decent pace for early in training, plus the time lost at stop signs and red lights. Right now I am just getting my body stronger as the mileage builds each week so it is not so much about pace as it is about muscle development.

Just for a comparison, my 1st tri was with minimal training and the cycling was about 14mph. The following year I had more training and the same course I avg 16mph. This same race is at the end of Sept so good 7 weeks of training, and my main race is the Olympic distance and that is in early Nov with 13 weeks of training, plenty of time for progress

Nice work, also some pretty awesome Olympic distance race got yourself plenty of time to get ready before Nov.

 

[p5sky]

Day 13

Wt: 167
this has held steady, but it is still early. I figure over the next 2 weeks I should see some solid recomp effects as endurance training ramps up. Unfortunately my diet has been poor as I've been crazy busy as school starts tomorrow. Also, with evening soccer games I eat a light meal at 6pm before the game, but then I am starving after the game so I end up with fast food, nobody wants to be cooking dinner at 10:30pm. I can see the effects from this as I did not notice the same striations in upper chest and shoulders that I did last week.

Last night I had 2 soccer games, it was 95* outside at 8pm, but I know it was hotter in the building. This is the only workout since Friday

Workout (working sets)
Bench 185x12/12/10
Curls 45x12/12/12
Lateral Raises 25x15/15/12
Pull-Ups BWx 10/10/8
Tri pushdowns 60x15/15/12
Abs- leg raise with toes to the bar sets of 10/10/8

Definite improvements in the strength dept, but I dont really want to gain muscle size. I will see how I do next workout with reps in the 15 range to focus on endurance. I may lighten up some exercises, mainly chest and bicep routines since those are pushing it to get 3 sets of 10.

Overall Effects

• Strength is improving
• Body Wt is maintaining with no recomp effects yet
• Aggression is not noticeable, this may be me as I understand my training goals so I am not going in to the gym with an edge of attitude.
• Joints feel fine, that could also be helped since I am not going heavy and the hi-reps help lubricate the joints.
• Complexion is not affected by extra oiliness.

 

[p5sky]

Day 13

Wt: 167
this has held steady, but it is still early. I figure over the next 2 weeks I should see some solid recomp effects as endurance training ramps up. Unfortunately my diet has been poor as I've been crazy busy as school starts tomorrow. Also, with evening soccer games I eat a light meal at 6pm before the game, but then I am starving after the game so I end up with fast food, nobody wants to be cooking dinner at 10:30pm. I can see the effects from this as I did not notice the same striations in upper chest and shoulders that I did last week.

Last night I had 2 soccer games, it was 95* outside at 8pm, but I know it was hotter in the building. This is the only workout since Friday

Workout (working sets)
Bench 185x12/12/10
Curls 45x12/12/12
Lateral Raises 25x15/15/12
Pull-Ups BWx 10/10/8
Tri pushdowns 60x15/15/12
Abs- leg raise with toes to the bar sets of 10/10/8

Definite improvements in the strength dept, but I dont really want to gain muscle size. I will see how I do next workout with reps in the 15 range to focus on endurance. I may lighten up some exercises, mainly chest and bicep routines since those are pushing it to get 3 sets of 10.

Overall Effects

• Strength is improving
• Body Wt is maintaining with no recomp effects yet
• Aggression is not noticeable, this may be me as I understand my training goals so I am not going in to the gym with an edge of attitude.
• Joints feel fine, that could also be helped since I am not going heavy and the hi-reps help lubricate the joints.
• Complexion is not affected by extra oiliness.

 

[p5sky]

This weather is killing my workouts! I am supposed to do a 15 mile bike ride but it is 95* right now and it will only cool down to 80* after it gets dark. I guess I have to do my ride at the gym, then hop in the pool to cool off

 

[PrepNwa23]

Hope heat calms down for you buddy, its cooled down up north here high of 70 something so it was doable. Hate anything over 85.

 

[p5sky]

Hope heat calms down for you buddy, its cooled down up north here high of 70 something so it was doable. Hate anything over 85.

It has been miserably hot, once the sun is up it is in the 80s and peaking at 100* by 2pm. Even overnight lows are 80*, so the AC is running 24/7 pretty much.

I have not completed any endurance training this week, I would've hit the pool at the gym but it was crowded with people escaping the heat. It is usually empty other that 1 or 2 others.

Tonight I've got my wt training so I'll get that up.

 

[p5sky]

Day 16

85* at 9pm!!!

Good news/bad news. The good news is that I am getting stronger along with improving the muscle endurance. I think next workout I will lower wt and go with 15 rep sets. The bad news is that I feel like I am getting bigger and fuller. This is not necessarily bad news but for my goals of maintaining while tri-training it can get tough if I get too bulky, especially in the swim. Obviously this is great news for the stack, I am not only maintaining strength/size with increased endurance training I am gaining as well. It would be nice to use this stack while not doing the tri-training, the results would be nice I imagine.

Workout (working sets)
Inc Bench 155x12/12/12
Hammer Curls 40x12/12/12
Mil Press 135x12/12/9
Lat Pulldowns 137x12/12/12
Tri pushdowns 70x12/12/12

Still no tri-training the past 4 days because of the extreme heat, but it should cool down by Monday . . . I hope. Either way I need to get it done so I will suck it up and get those workouts done.

 

[PrepNwa23]

I'm glad that it's helping you not only maintain but help put on size, buy sux for triathlon training I imagine.

 

[p5sky]

I'm glad that it's helping you not only maintain but help put on size, buy sux for triathlon training I imagine.

This would be a nice stack for me to put on size and strength based on what I've experienced so far. I dont need to put on any size for the race obviously, but I do have 2 months more before my biggest race so it is not a problem that I am gaining a bit now. I am just surprised that I am gaining with the cardio/endurance training 6 days/week while wt training 2-3 days/wk.

 

[p5sky]

Day 18

wt is up a few lbs to 169. This may be attributed to my decrease in cardio training last week as temps have been in the 90-100* range, even night temps are 85. It hasnt even been below 78 overnight, gotta run the AC 24/7.

Swim workout at noon/run workout at 7pm

200 yds warmup, breast stroke
300 yds drills with fins
4x25
6x50
4x25
200 cool down

1200 yds total

 

[p5sky]

Second Workout today, a 30 minute run. It was 92* after the sun went down, so I struggled a bit.

33 min for 3 miles, a nice 11 min/mi pace. This workout included pace surges for 30 sec to 90 sec. I mostly avg a 10 min/mi with surges at 7.5 min/mi

 

[p5sky]

Day 19

Workout (working sets)
Bench 185x14/12/12
DB Curls 45x12/12/12
Lat Raises 25x15/15/15
Tri Rope Ext 40x15/15/15

Plank 2 sets
Crunches 3 x10

Bike Ride on the LifeCycle. It is still 95* at 7:30pm.
16 mi/45 min
sprint surges
hill climb

 

[Drizzie88]

Long time no talk... I'm going to catch up on this thread tonight! Hope you are doing well!

 

[thebigt]

nice stack, p5sky...good luck!!!

 

[p5sky]

Long time no talk... I'm going to catch up on this thread tonight! Hope you are doing well!

It has been quiet in here lately . . . since page 1!

The problem with this stack is I am still gaining size/strength while doing high amounts of endurance training, if that is a problem. I can def tell with the shoulders and sleeves of my shirts and a couple of pounds over the first 2 weeks. I know it could be greater gains if I were training with those goals.