TRUTHORNOTHIN'S UR SPRAY LOG .... THE RETURN OF "TRUTH"

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    If I get the type of results you got from it I will be doing the exact same thing. I'm already planning on getting the oral+topical version when PA releases that.

    This seems to be one of the very rare supplement home runs and I have no problems paying for a product that works.
    A home run for sure, all positive reviews, a supplement rarity for sure. I've been working out off and on since the early 80's. I cannot tell you the countless dollars spent on stuff that was about as efficacious as sand.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by RD929 View Post
    I think it's safe for anyone to say that if they see hhalf the results you got they will add it as a staple. And honestly half the results forme (just on the opposite end) would be just fine since I will be using half the dose. It should be at my place but I must fly across the country to get there. Luckily I stole the rest of my girlfriends 7-spray to use inthe meantime bahaha
    Hope she doesn't hold a grudge, your bottle of UR-Spray may be in use before you get home lol
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  3. Nice results so far truthornothin !! It hasnīt been clear for me: how many bottles did you bought and run so far ? Are you planning in running the UR Spray in long term or cycle it ? keep shreddinggggggg

  4. Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    Hope she doesn't hold a grudge, your bottle of UR-Spray may be in use before you get home lol
    Hahah mine was still intact when I got home. I filled in the lettering of mine with red sharpie so we know the difference.

    How long are you planning on running this log, anyways?

  5. What's the score with the oral+spray? Is the idea to use the spray at the normal 50 spray dosage and then add in a few caps as well? I didn't think the caps had that good bioavailability and that was why the spray was released.

    Good log by the way, it's convinced me to make the plunge even though the spray in the UK is very expensive.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by heybeavis1 View Post
    Nice results so far truthornothin !! It hasnīt been clear for me: how many bottles did you bought and run so far ? Are you planning in running the UR Spray in long term or cycle it ? keep shreddinggggggg
    almost done with 2 and getting ready to start on 3 Ur spray is going to be a permanent part of the arsenal, no reason to cycle it save finances
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by RD929 View Post
    Hahah mine was still intact when I got home. I filled in the lettering of mine with red sharpie so we know the difference.

    How long are you planning on running this log, anyways?
    Glad it was waiting on you lol, I was going to keep it to a month, but may run it through when the Tablets come out. Probably will do that as long as there is interest
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by warsteiner View Post
    What's the score with the oral+spray? Is the idea to use the spray at the normal 50 spray dosage and then add in a few caps as well? I didn't think the caps had that good bioavailability and that was why the spray was released.

    Good log by the way, it's convinced me to make the plunge even though the spray in the UK is very expensive.
    50 sprays per application 2 applications per day is how I am using it. The skin has a limit of how much it can absorb. The idea behind the tablets is to allow you to circumvent this fact. You absorb as much as you can externally and then also use an oral version increasing the total amount your body can absorb. The oral version works great if used as directed, the new oral version is the same enhanced product as in the spray it has a much greater bio availability
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  9. Yesterday's missed Update


    Sorry I missed yesterday's update, I had pressing matters elsewhere. My supplementation and macros were the same and it was my workout day off.

    Observations:

    I really smashed my legs last workout, they are sore in a good way. Took most exercises to a stretch position and am feeling it now. Tonight is pecs, delts and tris. I haope my wheels are through aching by tomorrow when it is time to smash legs again. Ur spray is still inducing some amazingly deep sleep. Like a baby. More this afternoon
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  10. Great thanks.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by warsteiner View Post
    Great thanks.
    Anytime, that's what I am here for
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    50 sprays per application 2 applications per day is how I am using it. The skin has a limit of how much it can absorb. The idea behind the tablets is to allow you to circumvent this fact. You absorb as much as you can externally and then also use an oral version increasing the total amount your body can absorb. The oral version works great if used as directed, the new oral version is the same enhanced product as in the spray it has a much greater bio availability
    I forget, PA said it will only be sold as a stack with the spray? If not, are you going to run the tabs alone to assess how it compares after 1 month? It'll def be interesting to see how much better, if any, the tabs yield in bioavailability.

  13. Today is my first day of week 3 using UR Spray. I really have not noticed any change in body composition whatsoever so far. However, strength has started to increase by about an additional 4 reps per excersise which is great and I feel slightly fuller. Hopefully the body comp changes will come soon. So far this seems good for strength and a kind of pumped look but 7spray was way more effective for fat loss.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by RD929 View Post
    I forget, PA said it will only be sold as a stack with the spray? If not, are you going to run the tabs alone to assess how it compares after 1 month? It'll def be interesting to see how much better, if any, the tabs yield in bioavailability.
    correct and if I add it it will be on top of the spray as reccommended. I am sure it would work as a standalone but the intent here is to circumvent the inherent dosage limitations of a spray.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    Today is my first day of week 3 using UR Spray. I really have not noticed any change in body composition whatsoever so far. However, strength has started to increase by about an additional 4 reps per excersise which is great and I feel slightly fuller. Hopefully the body comp changes will come soon. So far this seems good for strength and a kind of pumped look but 7spray was way more effective for fat loss.
    So far you are the first to not notice rapid compositional changes. What does your dosing schedule look like, how much and when?
    E-PHARM Nutrition Representative
    Better one ugly truth than a million pretty lies
    Check Out Ur-Spray and D-Serine at Prototype Nutrition




  16. Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    So far you are the first to not notice rapid compositional changes. What does your dosing schedule look like, how much and when?
    I spray enough to cover my neck, upper shoulders/pecs, inside of my arms, top of hands, behind my ears, inner thighs, back of knees, top of feet, and my junk post shower am and pm. I try to cover those areas rather than count sprays as I believe thats what PA said to focus on. I still have maybe a little less than a 1/4th of my first bottle left after 2 weeks so maybe I am not spraying enough? The same thing happened with 7 spray. A bottle lasted me a lot longer than it should have but I had already seen significant changes by week 3 on that. I just figured maybe it was going to take longer to notice anything but I really have nothing to report as far as fat loss and diet has been good.

    Thats not to say it isnt doing anything it has increased strength more than I imagined it would which is awesome (added 4 reps to bent rows, 4 to krok rows, and 5 to Tbar within the past week) and I am getting really good pumps. However, I am disappointed to have not seen any body comp changes

  17. Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    I heard it was still out there and serve the purpose intended. I have considered the calcium issue but I eat a ton of cheese, so I think I am getting plenty. Thanks for the article it was interesting
    Sorry bro, it's been hectic for my family situation lately, so I haven't been around much...

    Ok, so I had thought of electrolyes as sodium, potassium, calcium and magnesium. This article (prepend www to this:
    .medicalnewstoday.com/articles/153188.php) says there's really a few more:

    In our bodies, electrolytes include sodium (Na+), potassium (K+), calcium (Ca2+), bicarbonate (HCO3-, magnesium (Mg2+), chloride (C1-), hydrogen phosphate (HPO42-), and hydrogen carbonate (HCO3-).
    and it goes on to discuss imbalances in some more detail.

    I don't honestly know exactly what's in Nimbus Nutrition Poseidon that makes it so effective in preventing "pumps" on anabolics and cramping... I just know it works for me and anyone else I know that's used it.

    I see some additional things (chloride ?, bicarbonate ?) in there beyond regular old sodium/potassium/magnesium/calcium that might be the factor in in it's success:


    Nimbus Nutrition Poseidon

    Serving Size:1 Scoop (5.9 g)
    Servings Per Container: 100

    Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid) 750 mg
    Riboflavin 750 mcg
    Niacin 45 mg
    Vitamin B6 (as pyrodoxine HCl) 5 mg
    Folic Acid 400 mcg
    Vitamin B12 (as methylcobalamin) 1000 mcg
    Biotin 90 mcg
    Pantothenic Acid (as calcium pantothenate) 10 mg
    Magnesium (as gluconate) 2 mg
    Zinc (as gluconate) 1 mg
    Sodium 16 mg
    Potassium (as chloride, bicarbonate, and bicarbonate) 330 mg

    Poseidon Complex 4922 mg
    Taurine, Ascorbic Acid (Vit. C), Potassium Chloride, Inositol, Glutamine, Potassium Bicarbonate, Potassium Carbonate, Sodium Bicarbonate, Niacin (B-3), Magnesium Gluconate, Calcium Pantothenate (B-5), Zinc Gluconate, Pyrodoxine Hydrochloride (B-6), TriMethlyGlycine (TMG), Methylcobalamin (B-12), Riboflavin (B-2), Folic Acid, Biotin (B-7)
    *Daily Value Not Established

    Other Ingredients:
    Citric Acid, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Acesulfame Potassium, Sucralose

    Poseidon Directions:
    As a dietary supplement, mix one scoop in 12-16 ounces of water or juice. Do not exceed 6 servings in a 24 hour period.
    I may have mentioned before, they also have a nighttime version of it, but I wouldn't bother with it if I were you, I would just get the regular version and start dosing 3x/day. Good luck with it; I'll check back soon and see if it's helping you.

    I wonder how many more posts involving you and Patrick picking things off of your balls I'll see when I check back in lol?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by RD929 View Post
    I forget, PA said it will only be sold as a stack with the spray? If not, are you going to run the tabs alone to assess how it compares after 1 month? It'll def be interesting to see how much better, if any, the tabs yield in bioavailability.
    a trainer i know that works with elite athletes will be testing the tabs. he will be able to gauge better than anyone what effect they have
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    Today is my first day of week 3 using UR Spray. I really have not noticed any change in body composition whatsoever so far. However, strength has started to increase by about an additional 4 reps per excersise which is great and I feel slightly fuller. Hopefully the body comp changes will come soon. So far this seems good for strength and a kind of pumped look but 7spray was way more effective for fat loss.

    what is ur diet like
    Anabolicminds.com Featured Author

  20. Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    Today is my first day of week 3 using UR Spray. I really have not noticed any change in body composition whatsoever so far. However, strength has started to increase by about an additional 4 reps per excersise which is great and I feel slightly fuller. Hopefully the body comp changes will come soon. So far this seems good for strength and a kind of pumped look but 7spray was way more effective for fat loss.
    I'll be interested to see your diet as well. How old are you and how long have you been seriously training? Because 4 reps extra on all lifts even for someone my age (24, lifting 9-10 years seriously) would be SICK considering its non hormonal.
    Last edited by RD929; 06-28-2012 at 01:35 PM. Reason: Misspelled "I'll "

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    what is ur diet like
    Diet varies somewhat from day to day but I try to get around 200 grams of protein, a good amount of healthy fats, and most of my carbs from vegetables and some fruit. Here is an example of my diet yesterday:

    5 whole egg omelet with peppers, onions, tomatoes, cheddar cheese (1oz) and 3 strips of bacon, strawberries, Fish oil

    Snack: 1 scoop trutein some almonds

    Lunch: Large garden salad with vinegarette dressing, olive oil, chicken breast, fish oil

    midday snack - 1/4 pound pattie of 100%grass fed beef with a fresh peach

    Dinner: 1/2 pound pattie of 100% grass fed beef and a ton of asparagus, large sweet potato w/butter and cinnamon, fish oil

    Before bed: 1 scoop trutein

    My body seems to react better with more fats and fewer carbs.

    I typically adjust calories depending on my workload that day. For example on workout days I may throw in a bit more food and some more carbs from sweet potatoes or fruit and such. Try to keep it pretty clean except with a few cheat meals here and there such as when I eat at my grandparents. I am pretty good with diet and have had great success with your other fatloss products such as 7 spray (contemplating buying truckloads of that stuff. One of my favorite supplements) and amp. Im not saying its a bad product the strength gains have been much greater than I ever anticipated it just hasnt had much of a recomp effect yet.

    Im going to start applying more as it seems im not doing the full dosage since it looks like this bottle will last half a week or so longer than it was supposed to. Any other suggestions?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by RD929 View Post
    I'll be interested to see your diet as well. How old are you and how long have you been seriously training? Because 4 reps extra on all lifts even for someone my age (24, lifting 9-10 years seriously) would be SICK considering its non hormonal.
    I am 25 with about 11 years of solid consistent training. I have always been very dedicated none of this lift for a few months and stop crap injured or not. Also, I have been competitively powerlifting for the last 4-5 years which is why I love the strength aspect. Its not beginner gains by any means I have to work my ass off to get stronger at this point.

  23. I am only on day 4 and noticed an extra pump today. Granted, I was training back and bi's so we'll so how it continues

  24. Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    Diet varies somewhat from day to day but I try to get around 200 grams of protein, a good amount of healthy fats, and most of my carbs from vegetables and some fruit. Here is an example of my diet yesterday:

    5 whole egg omelet with peppers, onions, tomatoes, cheddar cheese (1oz) and 3 strips of bacon, strawberries, Fish oil

    Snack: 1 scoop trutein some almonds

    Lunch: Large garden salad with vinegarette dressing, olive oil, chicken breast, fish oil

    midday snack - 1/4 pound pattie of 100%grass fed beef with a fresh peach

    Dinner: 1/2 pound pattie of 100% grass fed beef and a ton of asparagus, large sweet potato w/butter and cinnamon, fish oil

    Before bed: 1 scoop trutein

    My body seems to react better with more fats and fewer carbs.

    I typically adjust calories depending on my workload that day. For example on workout days I may throw in a bit more food and some more carbs from sweet potatoes or fruit and such. Try to keep it pretty clean except with a few cheat meals here and there such as when I eat at my grandparents. I am pretty good with diet and have had great success with your other fatloss products such as 7 spray (contemplating buying truckloads of that stuff. One of my favorite supplements) and amp. Im not saying its a bad product the strength gains have been much greater than I ever anticipated it just hasnt had much of a recomp effect yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    Im going to start applying more as it seems im not doing the full dosage since it looks like this bottle will last half a week or so longer than it was supposed to. Any other suggestions?


    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    I am 25 with about 11 years of solid consistent training. I have always been very dedicated none of this lift for a few months and stop crap injured or not. Also, I have been competitively powerlifting for the last 4-5 years which is why I love the strength aspect. Its not beginner gains by any means I have to work my ass off to get stronger at this point.
    By no means was I trying to say they were beginner gains, but I asked how long you've been training because since you have been training a while, an extra 4 reps on those exercises is pretty substantial is it not? PA said himself the change can be hard to see compared to other things since it is not really measured in the scale. Have you been taking quantitative measurements to keep track, or just going by the mirror? We all know it can be a little harder to see visual progress when we are the ones who see ourselves every day. I would up the protein? In my opinion you should get at least 305g protein a day? That would put you at 1.5g per lb/bodyweight.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by RD929 View Post
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    By no means was I trying to say they were beginner gains, but I asked how long you've been training because since you have been training a while, an extra 4 reps on those exercises is pretty substantial is it not? PA said himself the change can be hard to see compared to other things since it is not really measured in the scale. Have you been taking quantitative measurements to keep track, or just going by the mirror? We all know it can be a little harder to see visual progress when we are the ones who see ourselves every day. I would up the protein? In my opinion you should get at least 305g protein a day? That would put you at 1.5g per lb/bodyweight.
    No I understand I was just trying to emphasize how great the strength gains have been. I just didn't want people to brush off the significance of gaining an additional 4 reps to each exercise by thinking it was beginner gains.

    Scale is the same as well as waist measurement. Measured same time each morning and its pretty unchanged.

    Don't get me wrong I am very happy with the strength gains and the pumps are great (I got one a few min ago just from brushing my teeth). I feel fuller throughout the day. I haven't been able to lift in the past few days due to some family and work stuff but im excited and curious to see what my strength is like tomorrow. So I love the strength and muscle fullness, but I just have not noticed the recomp effect that its known for. That aspect of it may take longer to kick in for me who knows its still early.

    Thanks for the suggestion. I have played with protein intakes up to 2 grams/lb of bodyweight without any additional benefits over 1 gram/lb of bodyweight that I noticed. I might try it again though and see if it helps.

    I will keep yall updated on any changes in body recomp, strength, fullness, etc.
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