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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    50 sprays per application 2 applications per day is how I am using it. The skin has a limit of how much it can absorb. The idea behind the tablets is to allow you to circumvent this fact. You absorb as much as you can externally and then also use an oral version increasing the total amount your body can absorb. The oral version works great if used as directed, the new oral version is the same enhanced product as in the spray it has a much greater bio availability
    I forget, PA said it will only be sold as a stack with the spray? If not, are you going to run the tabs alone to assess how it compares after 1 month? It'll def be interesting to see how much better, if any, the tabs yield in bioavailability.
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    Today is my first day of week 3 using UR Spray. I really have not noticed any change in body composition whatsoever so far. However, strength has started to increase by about an additional 4 reps per excersise which is great and I feel slightly fuller. Hopefully the body comp changes will come soon. So far this seems good for strength and a kind of pumped look but 7spray was way more effective for fat loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RD929 View Post
    I forget, PA said it will only be sold as a stack with the spray? If not, are you going to run the tabs alone to assess how it compares after 1 month? It'll def be interesting to see how much better, if any, the tabs yield in bioavailability.
    correct and if I add it it will be on top of the spray as reccommended. I am sure it would work as a standalone but the intent here is to circumvent the inherent dosage limitations of a spray.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    Today is my first day of week 3 using UR Spray. I really have not noticed any change in body composition whatsoever so far. However, strength has started to increase by about an additional 4 reps per excersise which is great and I feel slightly fuller. Hopefully the body comp changes will come soon. So far this seems good for strength and a kind of pumped look but 7spray was way more effective for fat loss.
    So far you are the first to not notice rapid compositional changes. What does your dosing schedule look like, how much and when?
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    So far you are the first to not notice rapid compositional changes. What does your dosing schedule look like, how much and when?
    I spray enough to cover my neck, upper shoulders/pecs, inside of my arms, top of hands, behind my ears, inner thighs, back of knees, top of feet, and my junk post shower am and pm. I try to cover those areas rather than count sprays as I believe thats what PA said to focus on. I still have maybe a little less than a 1/4th of my first bottle left after 2 weeks so maybe I am not spraying enough? The same thing happened with 7 spray. A bottle lasted me a lot longer than it should have but I had already seen significant changes by week 3 on that. I just figured maybe it was going to take longer to notice anything but I really have nothing to report as far as fat loss and diet has been good.

    Thats not to say it isnt doing anything it has increased strength more than I imagined it would which is awesome (added 4 reps to bent rows, 4 to krok rows, and 5 to Tbar within the past week) and I am getting really good pumps. However, I am disappointed to have not seen any body comp changes
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    I heard it was still out there and serve the purpose intended. I have considered the calcium issue but I eat a ton of cheese, so I think I am getting plenty. Thanks for the article it was interesting
    Sorry bro, it's been hectic for my family situation lately, so I haven't been around much...

    Ok, so I had thought of electrolyes as sodium, potassium, calcium and magnesium. This article (prepend www to this:
    .medicalnewstoday.com/articles/153188.php) says there's really a few more:

    In our bodies, electrolytes include sodium (Na+), potassium (K+), calcium (Ca2+), bicarbonate (HCO3-, magnesium (Mg2+), chloride (C1-), hydrogen phosphate (HPO42-), and hydrogen carbonate (HCO3-).
    and it goes on to discuss imbalances in some more detail.

    I don't honestly know exactly what's in Nimbus Nutrition Poseidon that makes it so effective in preventing "pumps" on anabolics and cramping... I just know it works for me and anyone else I know that's used it.

    I see some additional things (chloride ?, bicarbonate ?) in there beyond regular old sodium/potassium/magnesium/calcium that might be the factor in in it's success:


    Nimbus Nutrition Poseidon

    Serving Size:1 Scoop (5.9 g)
    Servings Per Container: 100

    Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid) 750 mg
    Riboflavin 750 mcg
    Niacin 45 mg
    Vitamin B6 (as pyrodoxine HCl) 5 mg
    Folic Acid 400 mcg
    Vitamin B12 (as methylcobalamin) 1000 mcg
    Biotin 90 mcg
    Pantothenic Acid (as calcium pantothenate) 10 mg
    Magnesium (as gluconate) 2 mg
    Zinc (as gluconate) 1 mg
    Sodium 16 mg
    Potassium (as chloride, bicarbonate, and bicarbonate) 330 mg

    Poseidon Complex 4922 mg
    Taurine, Ascorbic Acid (Vit. C), Potassium Chloride, Inositol, Glutamine, Potassium Bicarbonate, Potassium Carbonate, Sodium Bicarbonate, Niacin (B-3), Magnesium Gluconate, Calcium Pantothenate (B-5), Zinc Gluconate, Pyrodoxine Hydrochloride (B-6), TriMethlyGlycine (TMG), Methylcobalamin (B-12), Riboflavin (B-2), Folic Acid, Biotin (B-7)
    *Daily Value Not Established

    Other Ingredients:
    Citric Acid, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Acesulfame Potassium, Sucralose

    Poseidon Directions:
    As a dietary supplement, mix one scoop in 12-16 ounces of water or juice. Do not exceed 6 servings in a 24 hour period.
    I may have mentioned before, they also have a nighttime version of it, but I wouldn't bother with it if I were you, I would just get the regular version and start dosing 3x/day. Good luck with it; I'll check back soon and see if it's helping you.

    I wonder how many more posts involving you and Patrick picking things off of your balls I'll see when I check back in lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RD929 View Post
    I forget, PA said it will only be sold as a stack with the spray? If not, are you going to run the tabs alone to assess how it compares after 1 month? It'll def be interesting to see how much better, if any, the tabs yield in bioavailability.
    a trainer i know that works with elite athletes will be testing the tabs. he will be able to gauge better than anyone what effect they have
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    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    Today is my first day of week 3 using UR Spray. I really have not noticed any change in body composition whatsoever so far. However, strength has started to increase by about an additional 4 reps per excersise which is great and I feel slightly fuller. Hopefully the body comp changes will come soon. So far this seems good for strength and a kind of pumped look but 7spray was way more effective for fat loss.

    what is ur diet like
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    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    Today is my first day of week 3 using UR Spray. I really have not noticed any change in body composition whatsoever so far. However, strength has started to increase by about an additional 4 reps per excersise which is great and I feel slightly fuller. Hopefully the body comp changes will come soon. So far this seems good for strength and a kind of pumped look but 7spray was way more effective for fat loss.
    I'll be interested to see your diet as well. How old are you and how long have you been seriously training? Because 4 reps extra on all lifts even for someone my age (24, lifting 9-10 years seriously) would be SICK considering its non hormonal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    what is ur diet like
    Diet varies somewhat from day to day but I try to get around 200 grams of protein, a good amount of healthy fats, and most of my carbs from vegetables and some fruit. Here is an example of my diet yesterday:

    5 whole egg omelet with peppers, onions, tomatoes, cheddar cheese (1oz) and 3 strips of bacon, strawberries, Fish oil

    Snack: 1 scoop trutein some almonds

    Lunch: Large garden salad with vinegarette dressing, olive oil, chicken breast, fish oil

    midday snack - 1/4 pound pattie of 100%grass fed beef with a fresh peach

    Dinner: 1/2 pound pattie of 100% grass fed beef and a ton of asparagus, large sweet potato w/butter and cinnamon, fish oil

    Before bed: 1 scoop trutein

    My body seems to react better with more fats and fewer carbs.

    I typically adjust calories depending on my workload that day. For example on workout days I may throw in a bit more food and some more carbs from sweet potatoes or fruit and such. Try to keep it pretty clean except with a few cheat meals here and there such as when I eat at my grandparents. I am pretty good with diet and have had great success with your other fatloss products such as 7 spray (contemplating buying truckloads of that stuff. One of my favorite supplements) and amp. Im not saying its a bad product the strength gains have been much greater than I ever anticipated it just hasnt had much of a recomp effect yet.

    Im going to start applying more as it seems im not doing the full dosage since it looks like this bottle will last half a week or so longer than it was supposed to. Any other suggestions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RD929 View Post
    I'll be interested to see your diet as well. How old are you and how long have you been seriously training? Because 4 reps extra on all lifts even for someone my age (24, lifting 9-10 years seriously) would be SICK considering its non hormonal.
    I am 25 with about 11 years of solid consistent training. I have always been very dedicated none of this lift for a few months and stop crap injured or not. Also, I have been competitively powerlifting for the last 4-5 years which is why I love the strength aspect. Its not beginner gains by any means I have to work my ass off to get stronger at this point.
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    I am only on day 4 and noticed an extra pump today. Granted, I was training back and bi's so we'll so how it continues
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    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    Diet varies somewhat from day to day but I try to get around 200 grams of protein, a good amount of healthy fats, and most of my carbs from vegetables and some fruit. Here is an example of my diet yesterday:

    5 whole egg omelet with peppers, onions, tomatoes, cheddar cheese (1oz) and 3 strips of bacon, strawberries, Fish oil

    Snack: 1 scoop trutein some almonds

    Lunch: Large garden salad with vinegarette dressing, olive oil, chicken breast, fish oil

    midday snack - 1/4 pound pattie of 100%grass fed beef with a fresh peach

    Dinner: 1/2 pound pattie of 100% grass fed beef and a ton of asparagus, large sweet potato w/butter and cinnamon, fish oil

    Before bed: 1 scoop trutein

    My body seems to react better with more fats and fewer carbs.

    I typically adjust calories depending on my workload that day. For example on workout days I may throw in a bit more food and some more carbs from sweet potatoes or fruit and such. Try to keep it pretty clean except with a few cheat meals here and there such as when I eat at my grandparents. I am pretty good with diet and have had great success with your other fatloss products such as 7 spray (contemplating buying truckloads of that stuff. One of my favorite supplements) and amp. Im not saying its a bad product the strength gains have been much greater than I ever anticipated it just hasnt had much of a recomp effect yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    Im going to start applying more as it seems im not doing the full dosage since it looks like this bottle will last half a week or so longer than it was supposed to. Any other suggestions?


    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    I am 25 with about 11 years of solid consistent training. I have always been very dedicated none of this lift for a few months and stop crap injured or not. Also, I have been competitively powerlifting for the last 4-5 years which is why I love the strength aspect. Its not beginner gains by any means I have to work my ass off to get stronger at this point.
    By no means was I trying to say they were beginner gains, but I asked how long you've been training because since you have been training a while, an extra 4 reps on those exercises is pretty substantial is it not? PA said himself the change can be hard to see compared to other things since it is not really measured in the scale. Have you been taking quantitative measurements to keep track, or just going by the mirror? We all know it can be a little harder to see visual progress when we are the ones who see ourselves every day. I would up the protein? In my opinion you should get at least 305g protein a day? That would put you at 1.5g per lb/bodyweight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RD929 View Post
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    By no means was I trying to say they were beginner gains, but I asked how long you've been training because since you have been training a while, an extra 4 reps on those exercises is pretty substantial is it not? PA said himself the change can be hard to see compared to other things since it is not really measured in the scale. Have you been taking quantitative measurements to keep track, or just going by the mirror? We all know it can be a little harder to see visual progress when we are the ones who see ourselves every day. I would up the protein? In my opinion you should get at least 305g protein a day? That would put you at 1.5g per lb/bodyweight.
    No I understand I was just trying to emphasize how great the strength gains have been. I just didn't want people to brush off the significance of gaining an additional 4 reps to each exercise by thinking it was beginner gains.

    Scale is the same as well as waist measurement. Measured same time each morning and its pretty unchanged.

    Don't get me wrong I am very happy with the strength gains and the pumps are great (I got one a few min ago just from brushing my teeth). I feel fuller throughout the day. I haven't been able to lift in the past few days due to some family and work stuff but im excited and curious to see what my strength is like tomorrow. So I love the strength and muscle fullness, but I just have not noticed the recomp effect that its known for. That aspect of it may take longer to kick in for me who knows its still early.

    Thanks for the suggestion. I have played with protein intakes up to 2 grams/lb of bodyweight without any additional benefits over 1 gram/lb of bodyweight that I noticed. I might try it again though and see if it helps.

    I will keep yall updated on any changes in body recomp, strength, fullness, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    No I understand I was just trying to emphasize how great the strength gains have been. I just didn't want people to brush off the significance of gaining an additional 4 reps to each exercise by thinking it was beginner gains.

    Scale is the same as well as waist measurement. Measured same time each morning and its pretty unchanged.

    Don't get me wrong I am very happy with the strength gains and the pumps are great (I got one a few min ago just from brushing my teeth). I feel fuller throughout the day. I haven't been able to lift in the past few days due to some family and work stuff but im excited and curious to see what my strength is like tomorrow. So I love the strength and muscle fullness, but I just have not noticed the recomp effect that its known for. That aspect of it may take longer to kick in for me who knows its still early.

    Thanks for the suggestion. I have played with protein intakes up to 2 grams/lb of bodyweight without any additional benefits over 1 gram/lb of bodyweight that I noticed. I might try it again though and see if it helps.

    I will keep yall updated on any changes in body recomp, strength, fullness, etc.
    Sorry for the delayed responses. I got home from the gym last nite and could not get on AM at all was able to post on other forums but AM was down.

    I wonder what your BF% was to start with. I do know the higher percentage you have initially the longer it will take changes to be visibly apparent. For example it it only takes a 1% decrease to show your abs vs a 5% then the person with 1% to go will notice changes a lot faster, even though it was the same percentage change
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    Quote Originally Posted by muad33b View Post
    Sorry bro, it's been hectic for my family situation lately, so I haven't been around much...

    Ok, so I had thought of electrolyes as sodium, potassium, calcium and magnesium. This article (prepend www to this:
    .medicalnewstoday.com/articles/153188.php) says there's really a few more:



    and it goes on to discuss imbalances in some more detail.

    I don't honestly know exactly what's in Nimbus Nutrition Poseidon that makes it so effective in preventing "pumps" on anabolics and cramping... I just know it works for me and anyone else I know that's used it.

    I see some additional things (chloride ?, bicarbonate ?) in there beyond regular old sodium/potassium/magnesium/calcium that might be the factor in in it's success:



    I may have mentioned before, they also have a nighttime version of it, but I wouldn't bother with it if I were you, I would just get the regular version and start dosing 3x/day. Good luck with it; I'll check back soon and see if it's helping you.

    I wonder how many more posts involving you and Patrick picking things off of your balls I'll see when I check back in lol?
    Ticks and chiggers, your testicle's worst enemies lol. Won't be able to order the Poseidon until Monday, I am not on any androgens, its just the damn cramping I've had since I was a teen. Thanks and I'll let you know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool View Post
    I am only on day 4 and noticed an extra pump today. Granted, I was training back and bi's so we'll so how it continues
    So what you are saying is....this on doesn't suck? lol Keep us posted on your progress. See if your sleep patterns change. I am sleeping much more soundly wondering if its a fluke or a common effect
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    Will post yesterday's and todays update tonight, as I said before I could not get on AM last night. Will post up this evening
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    Update for 6/28/2012


    Supplementation:
    UR Spray: 50 sprays x 2
    Testforce2 2 scoops
    Multivitamin
    Supplemental C
    5 grams Citrulline Malate
    5 grams Beta Alanine
    Potassium
    Calcium
    5 grams Taurine
    1 gram Histidine
    Pre Post and Intra workout supplementation will be listed in workout info
    Diet :
    Breakfast:
    4 whole egg omelet
    1 oz cheddar Cheese
    3 oz sausage
    6 cups coffee
    1/2 cup heavy cream
    Meal 2:
    8 oz of 80/20 ground beef
    2 tbsp mayo
    1 oz cheddar cheese
    Meal:3
    8oz 80/20ground beef
    2 tbsp mayo
    1 oz cheddar cheese
    2 pickles
    Meal 4:
    4 egg omelette
    1 oz provolone cheese

    Meal 5:
    6 oz Pork chop
    2 tbsp natty peanut butter
    1 tbsb siracha
    1tbsp soy sauce
    1tbsp lime juice(think Satay)
    small salad

    Snack
    3 hardboiled eggs
    1 oz pork rinds
    2 tblsp mayo

    Pre Workout:
    White Flood
    Clearshot

    Intra workout
    1 1/2 serving Purple Wraath
    Workout:
    Chest Shoulders and Tri's
    Chest:

    Incline DB Presses: 65 x 15 x 1, 75 x 15 x 1, 95 x 12 x 1, 100 x 8 x 1, 110 x 3 x 1, 100x4x6

    Incline Plate Loaded Bench Machine: 3 45's an a 10 on each side x 8 x 5

    Free Motion Cable Cable Unilateral Cable bench: 140x 10 x 1 150x8x2 160x6x 2

    Shoulders:
    Over head DB presses: 65x12x 1, 70x10x4,

    DB Side laterals :35 x 10 x5

    Tri's:

    Push Downs: 105lb stack + 20lbs Auxillary weight 5x12, 105lb stack 10lbs auxillary weight( elbows a little tweaky for all the heavy tri work of the last few workouts)

    Dip Machine: 275 x12x 1, 300lb stack x 6x5


    Observations: It is annoying when I cannot get on AM to make my update. Had a great workout was all fired up about it and got home and nada, google chrome could not find the website. Tried another browser and same thing. Oh well better late than never. I did have a great workout. No pr's my elbows are a tad sore but the way I have been pushing on pushdowns its no surprise to me. Actually I am surprised they are not killing me. Ur-Spray is evidently a potent anti inflamatory, as I have barely had to use my Joint force as of late. I had a killer pump even in my bi's again no carbs to speak of at all. Not normal but in a really good way. Only moderate cramping last night but I really loaded up on the potassium magnesium and calcium. Perhaps I just need more electrolytes than most. I drink a lot of fluids perhaps I am diluting the electrolytes too much. Every body is different.
    I worked out with my gf, we usually do our own thing, I think I actually moved at a faster clip doing so. She is quick on the plate changes and pushes hard so she is motivational to work out with. I ususally workout sans partner.

    Everything is feeling great, legs are still sore and its leg day. But knees, shoulders and except for a mild tweak elbows are the best in 10 years at least. Oh and I am up another pound to 207 from my loss over my trip. That's a good thing. Update tonite on legs should be on time but its Friday and nobody ever chimes in on Friday's posts anyway lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    Sorry for the delayed responses. I got home from the gym last nite and could not get on AM at all was able to post on other forums but AM was down.

    I wonder what your BF% was to start with. I do know the higher percentage you have initially the longer it will take changes to be visibly apparent. For example it it only takes a 1% decrease to show your abs vs a 5% then the person with 1% to go will notice changes a lot faster, even though it was the same percentage change

    exactly what i was thinkin
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    exactly what i was thinkin
    Great minds think alike lol Yes when he said powerlifter they tend(though not always) run a little higher in the BF% and its just going to take a little longer for visible results. The 4 extra reps is in line with what I've experienced so far, actual strength increase while dropping weight....as I said earlier, it has always been the converse with me. Weight loss equalled immediate strength loss. Not so here
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    Great minds think alike lol Yes when he said powerlifter they tend(though not always) run a little higher in the BF% and its just going to take a little longer for visible results. The 4 extra reps is in line with what I've experienced so far, actual strength increase while dropping weight....as I said earlier, it has always been the converse with me. Weight loss equalled immediate strength loss. Not so here
    To be completely honest I am not exactly sure what my body fat % is I have never done an accurate measurement of it. Im not as lean as I sometimes am but still pretty decent. My abs are pretty clearly visible but by no means razor sharp. Id say slightly higher than where you were in your beginning pics. I have visible shoulder and chest striations but I tend to hold more bf in my stomach area than anywhere else.

    On a side note I have been spraying more and I did look slightly leaner this morning so maybe it is starting to kick in. I also woke up completely pumped. Had to do a double take in the mirror haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    To be completely honest I am not exactly sure what my body fat % is I have never done an accurate measurement of it. Im not as lean as I sometimes am but still pretty decent. My abs are pretty clearly visible but by no means razor sharp. Id say slightly higher than where you were in your beginning pics. I have visible shoulder and chest striations but I tend to hold more bf in my stomach area than anywhere else.

    On a side note I have been spraying more and I did look slightly leaner this morning so maybe it is starting to kick in. I also woke up completely pumped. Had to do a double take in the mirror haha
    I also hold fat in the middle especially lower middle and love handles, my freaking head will be so lean you can see striations when I chew before my love handles ever disappear completely lol, its kind of grusome. The pumps are great, never had pumps with no carbs, will start adding in carbs after the 4th actually huge cheat planned for the 4th and I am curious to see the pumps then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    I also hold fat in the middle especially lower middle and love handles, my freaking head will be so lean you can see striations when I chew before my love handles ever disappear completely lol, its kind of grusome. The pumps are great, never had pumps with no carbs, will start adding in carbs after the 4th actually huge cheat planned for the 4th and I am curious to see the pumps then.
    Haha that is exactly how I am. I can have a gut but my arms, chest, and shoulders will look like slabs of solid granite
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    So what you are saying is....this one doesn't suck? lol Keep us posted on your progress. See if your sleep patterns change. I am sleeping much more soundly wondering if its a fluke or a common effect
    Undecided on suckage . Don't know how much I'll be able to comment on sleep. Got an almost 1 year old that isn't sleeping well. If it can help me sleep through that it is the holy grail lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    To be completely honest I am not exactly sure what my body fat % is I have never done an accurate measurement of it. Im not as lean as I sometimes am but still pretty decent. My abs are pretty clearly visible but by no means razor sharp. Id say slightly higher than where you were in your beginning pics. I have visible shoulder and chest striations but I tend to hold more bf in my stomach area than anywhere else.

    On a side note I have been spraying more and I did look slightly leaner this morning so maybe it is starting to kick in. I also woke up completely pumped. Had to do a double take in the mirror haha
    i was gonna suggest u up the dose
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    UR Spray: 50 sprays x 2
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    5 grams Beta Alanine
    Potassium
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    Diet :

    Breakfast:
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    3 ounces pork sausage cooked weight
    2 oz Cheddar cheese
    6 cups coffee
    1/4 cup

    Meal 2:
    8 oz 80/20 ground beef
    2 tblsp mayo
    1 oz cheddar cheese

    Meal:3

    8 oz 80/20 ground beef
    2 tblsp mayo
    1 oz provolone cheese

    Meal 4:

    3 hardboiled eggs
    2Tblsp's Mayo
    Meal 5:

    Meal 5:
    8 Oz 8/20 ground beef
    2 oz spring greens
    2 tbsp blue cheese dressing


    Snack:

    2 hardboiled eggs

    1 oz pork rinds
    2 tblsp mayo

    Preworkout: Clearshot 30ml
    White Flood 1 serving


    Work out:

    Legs:

    Squats:
    135x20x1 warm up 225x20x1, 275 x 15 x 1 315x10x1 365 x 2 x 4 315x8x2, 315x6x3


    Leg Extensions: 145x20x1, 165x20x3, 170x15x2, 185 x 12 x 1 200x6x 2, 220x6x2

    Hoist Leg Curls: 110x12x2, 120x10x2, 130x8x5

    Standing Calf Raises: 380x12x3, 400x6x3

    Seated Calf Raises 110x3x12

    Ab's:

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    2 sets of as many slow controlled reps as I could do.
    Ab Coaster: same as above

    Observations:

    Didn't do as much volume as last leg workout as legs were still sore. It was my intent to stay at 315, but I felt strong so went for the 365 reps. I am long legged and those kill me. My glutes are very sore this morning. My calves are finally starting to grow, I actually notice in the mirror yesterday. It is my most lagging muscle group, any progress there makes me happy. I dosed up on potassium and magnesium prior to my workout and only a minor leg cramp in the hamstrings, considering I did extra volume and it was very minor its a big improvement
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool View Post
    Undecided on suckage . Don't know how much I'll be able to comment on sleep. Got an almost 1 year old that isn't sleeping well. If it can help me sleep through that it is the holy grail lol.
    Hope it helps mine slept through the night the first day home and ever after, I was lucky
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    the sleep on Ur spray is indeed awesome. Maybe a little too good. Girlfriend is basically having dreams she thought actually happened and convinced they were real, like me waking her up in the middle of the night. Maybe I actually did but my sleep is so deep that I don't remember, since I'm taking Ur Spray as well...either way, sweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RD929 View Post
    the sleep on Ur spray is indeed awesome. Maybe a little too good. Girlfriend is basically having dreams she thought actually happened and convinced they were real, like me waking her up in the middle of the night. Maybe I actually did but my sleep is so deep that I don't remember, since I'm taking Ur Spray as well...either way, sweet.
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    5 grams Beta Alanine
    Potassium
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    Breakfast:
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    1/2 cup heavy cream

    Meal 2:
    8oz 80/20 ground beef
    4 strips thick cut bacon
    2oz pepper jack cheese

    Meal:3

    8 oz cooked ground sirloin 80-20
    2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
    1 oz cheddar cheese

    Meal 4:
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    tbsp Mayonaise

    Meal 5:
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    Snack 2 hardboiled eggs
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    Intra workout

    20 grams BCAA's
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    Workout:
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    Body weight Chins: 2x16, 2x14, 2x12, 2x8, 2x6
    Nautilus Unilateral Pull down: stack=250 5x12x =250 1x 10x 250
    Hoist Lat Pulldown: 150 x 10 x 2, 150 x 8 x 1, 160 x 6 x3
    T-Bar Rows- 180 x 8 x 4, 225 x 5 x 3
    Hammer Strength plate loaded row. 3 plates per side 12 x 2, 10x2, 8x3
    Nautilus Seated Low Row 260x12x5


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    Standing easy bar curls Regular Grip:120x6x4 Wide grip pinky up Seated Plate Loaded Preacher machine curls: 120 x 8 x 5
    One handed Cable Curls: 5 x 70 x 12 2x80x8
    Hoist Seated cable bicep curl machine 80 x 12 x 3

    Observations:

    Today's workout was outstanding. Chins felt easy, floated up to the bar so slow and controlled. Nice lat pump. All my usual weights were light. didn't go for any pr's as forearm still tweaky. Bicep workout also good. Last two sets did negatives on the last three reps. Very, very slow, very good pump veins bulging everywhere. Was sweating like a horse and enjoying every second of it. I am seeing extra definition in my arms and delts will try to get another set of pics up before the Fourth as I intend to totally pig out and eat whatever the hell I want. gotta get the pics in before that lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    Supplementation:

    UR Spray: 50 sprays x 2

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    Multivitamin
    Supplemental C
    5 grams Citrulline Malate
    5 grams Beta Alanine
    Potassium
    Calcium
    5 grams Taurine
    1 gram Histidine

    Pre Post and Intra workout supplementation will be listed in workout info

    Diet :

    Breakfast:
    4egg Omelete
    1 oz muensterCheese.
    6 cups coffee
    1/2 cup heavy cream

    Meal 2:
    8oz 80/20 ground beef
    4 strips thick cut bacon
    2oz pepper jack cheese

    Meal:3

    8 oz cooked ground sirloin 80-20
    2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
    1 oz cheddar cheese

    Meal 4:
    6 hard boiled eggs
    tbsp Mayonaise

    Meal 5:
    10oz turkey burger with cheese

    Snack 2 hardboiled eggs
    1 oz pork rinds
    2 tblsp mayo


    Pre-Workout

    White Flood
    1 serving Clearshot

    Intra workout

    20 grams BCAA's
    5 grams citrulline malate

    Workout:
    Back and Bi's

    Back:

    Body weight Chins: 2x16, 2x14, 2x12, 2x8, 2x6
    Nautilus Unilateral Pull down: stack=250 5x12x =250 1x 10x 250
    Hoist Lat Pulldown: 150 x 10 x 2, 150 x 8 x 1, 160 x 6 x3
    T-Bar Rows- 180 x 8 x 4, 225 x 5 x 3
    Hammer Strength plate loaded row. 3 plates per side 12 x 2, 10x2, 8x3
    Nautilus Seated Low Row 260x12x5


    Bi's

    Standing easy bar curls Regular Grip:120x6x4 Wide grip pinky up Seated Plate Loaded Preacher machine curls: 120 x 8 x 5
    One handed Cable Curls: 5 x 70 x 12 2x80x8
    Hoist Seated cable bicep curl machine 80 x 12 x 3

    Observations:

    Today's workout was outstanding. Chins felt easy, floated up to the bar so slow and controlled. Nice lat pump. All my usual weights were light. didn't go for any pr's as forearm still tweaky. Bicep workout also good. Last two sets did negatives on the last three reps. Very, very slow, very good pump veins bulging everywhere. Was sweating like a horse and enjoying every second of it. I am seeing extra definition in my arms and delts will try to get another set of pics up before the Fourth as I intend to totally pig out and eat whatever the hell I want. gotta get the pics in before that lol
    I know this community is pretty much anti-Crossfit, but have you ever gone to Mobility WOD? Kelly Starrett is a DPT and quite a good one. He posted a video every day for a year straight on how athletes can self-mobilize and self-rehabilitate with some interesting and new techniques and exercises for better performance and basically ungunking and unsticking tissues and whatnot. It's pretty awesome, he has a few on forearms. I would definitely check it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RD929 View Post
    I know this community is pretty much anti-Crossfit, but have you ever gone to Mobility WOD? Kelly Starrett is a DPT and quite a good one. He posted a video every day for a year straight on how athletes can self-mobilize and self-rehabilitate with some interesting and new techniques and exercises for better performance and basically ungunking and unsticking tissues and whatnot. It's pretty awesome, he has a few on forearms. I would definitely check it out.
    I may have to give it a look, thanks
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    I hate to keep hijacking your thread but just a few quick observations over the past few days. Either it needed time to start working or the increased dosage is what I needed but either way this stuff seems to have started working. Nothing crazy but def a difference. This weekend I worked Friday from 8 a.m. to 4 a.m. the next day between my two jobs. I drank a bit friday night (bartending), slept four hours and headed to the lake Saturday where I drank beer and rum most of the day and ate like crap, and then maybe got an additional 5 hours of sleep saturday night. I was also a little off on my dosage times and not applying after a shower etc.

    Even with all that I feel like I got a bit leaner which is very surprising. Made it to the gym Sunday afternoon after all of that and still managed a decent workout. I matched an old pr of 150x8 dumbell rows with no straps which is impressive because I have not touched a dumbell over 100 in 6 months since my new gym doesnt have them. Starting to be very happy with this product
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    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    I hate to keep hijacking your thread but just a few quick observations over the past few days. Either it needed time to start working or the increased dosage is what I needed but either way this stuff seems to have started working. Nothing crazy but def a difference. This weekend I worked Friday from 8 a.m. to 4 a.m. the next day between my two jobs. I drank a bit friday night (bartending), slept four hours and headed to the lake Saturday where I drank beer and rum most of the day and ate like crap, and then maybe got an additional 5 hours of sleep saturday night. I was also a little off on my dosage times and not applying after a shower etc.

    Even with all that I feel like I got a bit leaner which is very surprising. Made it to the gym Sunday afternoon after all of that and still managed a decent workout. I matched an old pr of 150x8 dumbell rows with no straps which is impressive because I have not touched a dumbell over 100 in 6 months since my new gym doesnt have them. Starting to be very happy with this product
    Just for future reference and for anyone else out there also using Ur Spray. I do not consider sharing your personal experiences with Ur- Spray a hijack. Like my prior log I prefer it to be an information sharing resource with my log attatched to it. So all of you feel free to post any results or experiences on Ur-spray for discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    Just for future reference and for anyone else out there also using Ur Spray. I do not consider sharing your personal experiences with Ur- Spray a hijack. Like my prior log I prefer it to be an information sharing resource with my log attatched to it. So all of you feel free to post any results or experiences on Ur-spray for discussion.
    Good to know. I wanted to post it here since people could see my previous posts and that I have started to notice body recomp effects afterall. I think the UR spray/pill combo stacked with 7-spray would be one hell of a stack. Maybe we can even get the new Testforce 3. I can dream
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    CAT what did you up your dosage to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    CAT what did you up your dosage to?
    I do not really count sprays but instead focus on covering the inside of my arms, neck/traps, uppershoulders/pecs, inside of thighs, tops of hands/feet, and my junk. However one bottle has lasted 3 weeks when it is only supposed to last 2 so about 4 days ago I began spraying a few additional sprays to each area mentioned as well as my torso and the thin skinned part of my hipflexor area. It seems to be paying off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    I do not really count sprays but instead focus on covering the inside of my arms, neck/traps, uppershoulders/pecs, inside of thighs, tops of hands/feet, and my junk. However one bottle has lasted 3 weeks when it is only supposed to last 2 so about 4 days ago I began spraying a few additional sprays to each area mentioned as well as my torso and the thin skinned part of my hipflexor area. It seems to be paying off.
    I see. Just trying to get a feel for how people dose it. I'm considering applying it three times a day (upon waking, post workout shower, right before bed) at around 25 sprays a shot. I have two bottles so I'm not real concerned about going through it super fast. I'm just eager to try it!
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