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    Originally Posted by BaDgErFaN View Post
    Hey stxnas, why do you only use it 2-3x a week? Would it be ok using it every day?
    Phenibut can build up a tolerance fast, and you can get withdraws from it. As you build up tolerance you can start to take mega doses (4 to up 10g) and those mega doses can lead to withdrawal symptoms involving severe anxiety, tremors agitation, psychosis, hallucinations and a complaint of insomnia similar to baclofen withdrawal, consistent with its GABAB agonist properties.
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    Originally Posted by D2footballjrc View Post
    Phenibut can build up a tolerance fast, and you can get withdraws from it. As you build up tolerance you can start to take mega doses (4 to up 10g) and those mega doses can lead to withdrawal symptoms involving severe anxiety, tremors agitation, psychosis, hallucinations and a complaint of insomnia similar to baclofen withdrawal, consistent with its GABAB agonist properties.

    Oh wow! I guess I will limit its use then. Thanks for the info.

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    I know some companies suggest using Phenibut for five days on and then two consecutive days off. I usually just save it for days that really kicked my butt. I don't think I've used it more than three days in one week, but I might have gone two on, two off, and then two on again. It's worth noting that some companies suggest not going more than three days in a row without two days off, though.

    Just do some researching on your own and do what feels comfortable to you. I probably never use it more than three days in a row, but I tend to play it safe.
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    Originally Posted by BaDgErFaN View Post
    AI Sports Agmatine and AI Sports Phenibut.


    I will be running a 4 week log of AI Sports Agmatine and AI Sports Phenibut. HUGE thanks to stxnas for this opportunity! Really appreciate it!




    For anyone who has been living under a rock and dosent know what Agmatine is here ya go:







    Here is the label for the Phenibut:






    I will be dosing the Agmatine at 1000mg a day as follows:
    On workout days = 500mg upon waking with breakfast and 500mg with my preworkout meal.
    On off days = 500mg with breakfast and 500mg with lunch or dinner.



    The phenibut dosing I’m not as sure about, I’ve never used a phenibut product before. Advice is welcome and wanted on that. I think I will start out with just taking 2 caps (1000mg) an hour before bed and we’ll go from there.


    Anyway, I will be taking my first dose of Phenibut tonight, and we’ll start the agmatine tomorrow. Really looking forward to how this turns out!




    EDIT: Also adding AI DAA to this stack @ 3gr/day.




    Youll love this combo.. excited to see your progress

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    Nice log

    On phenibut I have been using it since 2005 and use no more than 2-3 x's a week. Ive gone months without using it. It really can build of tolerance fast. The only exception ill even consider is if I really need it like contest preparation, even than , its best to limit dosing due to tolerance.

    drinking on phenibut is a no no, one drink equals about two or three.

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    So yesterday I was off from the gym, got out and did some hiking though.

    Yesterday was day 1 of the agmatine and DAA.

    I took 500mg of agmatine in the AM with breakfast, (1 scoop whey, 12oz 1% milk, 120gr. oatmeal, 4 hardboiled eggs) and another 500mg late afternoon. Took 3g of DAA before bed.

    After just the first dose of agmatine I noticed my muscles seeming fuller, kind of like a mini pump. Im excited to see what happens as time goes on as Ive heard agmatine gets better and better the longer you use it.




    Today I am back in the gym to hit Back/Bi.
    Im feeling good today, feeling energized even though no stims. Excited to hit the gym hard!

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    Originally Posted by John Smeton View Post
    Nice log

    On phenibut I have been using it since 2005 and use no more than 2-3 x's a week. Ive gone months without using it. It really can build of tolerance fast. The only exception ill even consider is if I really need it like contest preparation, even than , its best to limit dosing due to tolerance.

    drinking on phenibut is a no no, one drink equals about two or three.
    Thanks for the advice! Yea, I think I will only use the Phenibut 2-3x a week tops.

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    Originally Posted by jiggamanbill View Post
    Youll love this combo.. excited to see your progress

    Yea, I am excited to be running these. Thanks for following along!

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    Originally Posted by BaDgErFaN View Post
    So yesterday I was off from the gym, got out and did some hiking though.

    Yesterday was day 1 of the agmatine and DAA.

    I took 500mg of agmatine in the AM with breakfast, (1 scoop whey, 12oz 1% milk, 120gr. oatmeal, 4 hardboiled eggs) and another 500mg late afternoon. Took 3g of DAA before bed.

    After just the first dose of agmatine I noticed my muscles seeming fuller, kind of like a mini pump. Im excited to see what happens as time goes on as Ive heard agmatine gets better and better the longer you use it.




    Today I am back in the gym to hit Back/Bi.
    Im feeling good today, feeling energized even though no stims. Excited to hit the gym hard!
    great to hear that its working well for you!

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    Day 3 of DAA and Agmatine.

    I dont think im noticing anything from the DAA yet, but Im not really expecting anything this early anyway.

    I am really liking the aesthetic side to the agmatine! Its nice feeling like my muscles are full all day. I also noticed that my endurance seemed better than normal during yesterdays workout.



    Havent taken any of the phenibut since the first night. I am going to limit its use to times when Im feeling overly stressed or feeling like I just cant sleep.

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    DAY 6 for DAA & Agmatine.

    I am totally IN LOVE with the agmatine! The pumps I've been getting in the gym are unreal! I also seem to be able to get a mini pump from just about anything that elevates my heart rate.

    I have been having awesome workouts lately! My endurance has been way up! I have been able to squeeze out more reps than usual also. I dont know if its the DAA kicking in or just the agmatine or the combo, but I am loving it!

    How long until DAA is usually kicking in? Is it 12 days that I heard? Whatever it is things have been great and I cant wait to see what the next few weeks has in store for me!

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    Looking good man! Glad to hear your having good results!


    Originally Posted by BaDgErFaN View Post
    How long until DAA is usually kicking in? Is it 12 days that I heard?
    I had heard 12 days before also. At least thats what some of the advertising was claiming, that it raised you test levels x% in just 12 days.

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    Originally Posted by BaDgErFaN View Post
    DAY 6 for DAA & Agmatine.

    I am totally IN LOVE with the agmatine! The pumps I've been getting in the gym are unreal! I also seem to be able to get a mini pump from just about anything that elevates my heart rate.

    I have been having awesome workouts lately! My endurance has been way up! I have been able to squeeze out more reps than usual also. I dont know if its the DAA kicking in or just the agmatine or the combo, but I am loving it!

    How long until DAA is usually kicking in? Is it 12 days that I heard? Whatever it is things have been great and I cant wait to see what the next few weeks has in store for me!
    I don't know how long it takes to kick in, but I do know that I tend to feel like I have better endurance while using DAA. It seemed even more noticeable when I started stacking it with LCLT. I ALWAYS throw in some LCLT with my DAA, now.
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    So today was a BAD day. Nothing went right, was stressing out bad. Took 2 caps of the phenibut late this afternoon. After about a half hour or 45 min I was starting to feel less tense and more relaxed.

    I carry a lot of tension in my traps and it can become painful at times, its like I am unconsciously shrugging them up and holding the contraction. Well, within an hour or so after taking the phenibut the muscles were noticeably less tense.

    I had a slight overall sense of well being and things were not bugging me as much as usual. It really helped make the last part of the day go a lot better.



    Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    I don't know how long it takes to kick in, but I do know that I tend to feel like I have better endurance while using DAA. It seemed even more noticeable when I started stacking it with LCLT. I ALWAYS throw in some LCLT with my DAA, now.
    Hmmm, good to know. I will have to use some LCLT with the DAA next time I run it.

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    DAY 9 on DAA and Agmatine


    Well todays workout was awesome! I have used many test boosters over the years and have to say, this combo has been as good or better than all the others Ive used. My endurance is through the roof! A couple of days ago I was thinking, maybe these results are placebo, but I dont think its placebo anymore! I have already been able to add weight/reps much faster than normal.

    I cant wait to see how things are in another couple days. I am really enjoying things so far though!

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    Originally Posted by BaDgErFaN View Post
    DAY 9 on DAA and Agmatine


    Well todays workout was awesome! I have used many test boosters over the years and have to say, this combo has been as good or better than all the others Ive used. My endurance is through the roof! A couple of days ago I was thinking, maybe these results are placebo, but I dont think its placebo anymore! I have already been able to add weight/reps much faster than normal.

    I cant wait to see how things are in another couple days. I am really enjoying things so far though!
    NICE man!!

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    Originally Posted by BaDgErFaN View Post
    DAY 9 on DAA and Agmatine


    Well todays workout was awesome! I have used many test boosters over the years and have to say, this combo has been as good or better than all the others Ive used. My endurance is through the roof! A couple of days ago I was thinking, maybe these results are placebo, but I dont think its placebo anymore! I have already been able to add weight/reps much faster than normal.

    I cant wait to see how things are in another couple days. I am really enjoying things so far though!
    Good to hear this. Ive been on daa since September 2011 and really notice mental and physical benefits, great supplement. In addition it crosses the brain blood barrier

    Agmatine is very nice for pumps and a even more benefits

    Keep up the good work Badger

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    Originally Posted by BaDgErFaN View Post
    DAY 9 on DAA and Agmatine


    Well todays workout was awesome! I have used many test boosters over the years and have to say, this combo has been as good or better than all the others Ive used. My endurance is through the roof! A couple of days ago I was thinking, maybe these results are placebo, but I dont think its placebo anymore! I have already been able to add weight/reps much faster than normal.

    I cant wait to see how things are in another couple days. I am really enjoying things so far though!
    For added results toss in some Testopro with it. I loved Testopro and DAA. I ran it for 3 months and it was off the hook. I'm going to start my first PH cycle coming up but have it planned to be added into my PCT.
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    Originally Posted by BaDgErFaN View Post
    DAY 9 on DAA and Agmatine


    Well todays workout was awesome! I have used many test boosters over the years and have to say, this combo has been as good or better than all the others Ive used. My endurance is through the roof! A couple of days ago I was thinking, maybe these results are placebo, but I dont think its placebo anymore! I have already been able to add weight/reps much faster than normal.

    I cant wait to see how things are in another couple days. I am really enjoying things so far though!
    This is great to hear, especially considering that you have about three weeks left!
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    Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    This is great to hear, especially considering that you have about three weeks left!
    Yea, I was actually considering trying to pick up some more agmatine so I could run this for 8 weeks. I got enough of the DAA to last that long already sooo.... I just have to try and find a way to convince the wife that we can afford to buy just one little bottle of agmatine

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