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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886 View Post
    Ok fella's I got a confession to make. I woke up about 2:15 last night and gave in to a food craving, ate some homemade chocolate cake /sadface.jpg for Penance, I will do am cardio tomorrow.

    4/19/12 Day 3, wk 2 (75%)
    Started with some 6 minute warm up and deep calf stretching.

    Deads 5x5 @285

    Front Squat (Still kind of building my confidence on these, am getting to just below parallel squating down to low end of decline bench)
    155x10, 165x8/10

    Back Raise/Extension @75x12/12/10

    Barebell Shrug
    275x12/12, 225x15 (Wanted to mke sur I was getting full ROM, I was)

    Planks 5 sets w/30 sec hold/30 sec rest between sets.

    Fed from a bit after 12-9 (did not get home till 8)

    Dietary: 2669 cals (178 carbs, 238 protein {plus 28 g BCAA}, 110 fats) with an estimated burn of 4100.
    You may not be eating enough on workout days, if you get too hungry it's hard to control cravings... another thing you can do is have foods handy that won't do so much damage if you indulge. Hunger is a sign of anabolism and if you are very hungry you should eat, it's what you eat that becomes important in this case. The best thing to do though is to avoid being very hungry by eating enough after your workouts. This gets you buy most of the problem but it's hard to predict sometimes... I don't think big guys should be going below 3000 cals on training days if they are using nutrient cycling...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    You may not be eating enough on workout days, if you get too hungry it's hard to control cravings... another thing you can do is have foods handy that won't do so much damage if you indulge. Hunger is a sign of anabolism and if you are very hungry you should eat, it's what you eat that becomes important in this case. The best thing to do though is to avoid being very hungry by eating enough after your workouts. This gets you buy most of the problem but it's hard to predict sometimes... I don't think big guys should be going below 3000 cals on training days if they are using nutrient cycling...
    Thanks for the input DW.

    Change of plans, have to pick up the little guy at 6:00 from Baseball practice, so instead of AM cardio, we did AM weights. Still gonna not break fast till around 12:00, running on about 30g bcaa, thinking that will prevent any catabolic concerns. Gonna hit the cardio for a bit after work. Not sure if it was the early morning thing or that my tank was empty, but 155 5x5 for standing OH BB Press felt a lot heavier than it should have, yet I kicked ass on DB Rows, details later.
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    Ok, so here is how it went today. Woke up around 5:30, said may as well roll out and hit the weight room. Poured the coffee, took the sups and meds and rolled out on 3 scoops of Jac3d an 6g BCAA.

    Day 4, wk 2 (75%) Started with some light RC work nad full ROM Warmup sets)
    7:35-8:30

    Standing OH BB Press 5x5 @155 (Maybe it was the morning thing, but this felt heavier than it should have)

    Incline DB Press @75's 12/12/9

    Tate Press 35x12, 40x9/8

    BO DB Row 100x12/12, 120x6/6 (grip issues) 120x8/8 (Very freaking happy here!)

    Cross Body Hammer Curl 35x12/12 twice, 40x8/8 (Still hurt the elbow but getting better)

    Hit the shower and went to work Broke fast at 12:25, shut it off at 8:00.

    After work hit 35 minutes of Random Hills - 274 cals.

    Dietary for today: 2723 cals (194 carbs, 239 protein [plus 52g bcaa], 113 fats) with an estimated burn of 4260.
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    4/23/12 Day 1, wk3 (85%)
    5:45 - 6:40 (Started with about 6 minute cardio warm up and deep calf stretching.

    Back Squat 5x5 @300 (Still getting deeper but not quite para yet)

    Power Clean 5x5 @145

    Still struggling with technique on split squats: Set 1 Bulgarian style with a single 35, free hand on bench for balance, 8/8, Tried regular split squat w/10's 8/8(still did not feel right), went back to the Bulgarian style with a 25, 8/8

    Leg Raise 25/20/15.

    Broke fast at a bit after noon, shut it down at about 8:00. 2632 cals, (179 carbs, 223 protein [plus 34g bcaa], 119 fats) with an estimated burn of 4050.
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    4/24/12 Day 2, wk 3 (85%)
    5:15-6:20 (started with a light cardio warm up and some RC work)

    Bench 5x5@230 (hit all reps)

    Dip 6/8/7

    BO DB Row @200 10/10/10

    Assisted Pull up (265 bw+clothes-55)=210 8/8/8

    Close Grip Bench 170x10/10, 180x8 (15 pound jump from last week, very happy with this.)

    Side bends 3x12 each side

    Wrapped things up with 25 minutes of Random Hills, 180 cals.

    Fed from 12:30-8:15 2729 cals (111 carbs, 240 protein [plus 40g bcaa], 145 fats) estimated burn of 4250.

    As noted, I am seeing some increase in STR and digging it. I also noted this morning that veins were popping out all over my lower legs and ankle. Not sure if it is in some part a lighting thing as I turned on the light to take photo and they were still there but not as impressive.
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    Nice! Im always excited when the veins show up! Ive never really been to vascular in my legs, but Im hoping to see some when I bridge into Epi-V...we shall see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurningGreen View Post
    Nice! Im always excited when the veins show up! Ive never really been to vascular in my legs, but Im hoping to see some when I bridge into Epi-V...we shall see.

    Got me a killer PH Stack run planned for after this man, Epi, Stano 200, Ageforce DHEA patch. Gonna be killer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886 View Post
    Got me a killer PH Stack run planned for after this man, Epi, Stano 200, Ageforce DHEA patch. Gonna be killer.
    Sounds Money Baby!! With the work you've been putting in it should be an excellent run...looking forward to following!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurningGreen View Post
    Sounds Money Baby!! With the work you've been putting in it should be an excellent run...looking forward to following!
    Thanks Green, not sure I am gonna log it but will let you know if I do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886
    4/23/12 Day 1, wk3 (85%)
    5:45 - 6:40 (Started with about 6 minute cardio warm up and deep calf stretching.

    Back Squat 5x5 @300 (Still getting deeper but not quite para yet)

    Power Clean 5x5 @145

    Still struggling with technique on split squats: Set 1 Bulgarian style with a single 35, free hand on bench for balance, 8/8, Tried regular split squat w/10's 8/8(still did not feel right), went back to the Bulgarian style with a 25, 8/8

    Leg Raise 25/20/15.

    Broke fast at a bit after noon, shut it down at about 8:00. 2632 cals, (179 carbs, 223 protein [plus 34g bcaa], 119 fats) with an estimated burn of 4050.
    It took me awhile to get used to split squats. Now I've got a spot on the floor where I always do them and recognize marks or what not that I can use as land marks to place my feet so they are always in the same position. And I use kettle bells to hold on to one in each hand.
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    10 g Modern BCAA and 1 scoop jacked, rolled out for some fasted cardio, 32 minutes random hills, 244 cals.
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    Tonight's session KICKED MY ASS! Having read people raving about 6 caps c-20 a day, figured I would bump it up and see what happens.
    Day 3, wk3 (85%)
    5:05-6:15 (Started with light cardio and deep calf strectches)

    Deads 5x5 @325 (for some reason, could not lock out rep 5 on set 3, reminded myself that was BS and hit all 5 reps on sets 4 and 5)

    Front Squat 170x8/8, 180x8 (Getting to para on these, another 15lb jump)

    Back Raise w/85# DB
    10/10/10

    BB Shrugs 3x12 @300

    Planks 5 reps with 35 second hold, 30 second rest.

    Fed from 12-8. Dietary: 2616 cals (193 carbs, 230 protein [plus 40 g bcaa], 106 fats) estimated burn 4150.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886
    Tonight's session KICKED MY ASS! Having read people raving about 6 caps c-20 a day, figured I would bump it up and see what happens.
    Day 3, wk3 (85%)
    5:05-6:15 (Started with light cardio and deep calf strectches)

    Deads 5x5 @325 (for some reason, could not lock out rep 5 on set 3, reminded myself that was BS and hit all 5 reps on sets 4 and 5)

    Front Squat 170x8/8, 180x8 (Getting to para on these, another 15lb jump)

    Back Raise w/85# DB
    10/10/10

    BB Shrugs 3x12 @300

    Planks 5 reps with 35 second hold, 30 second rest.

    Fed from 12-8. Dietary: 2616 cals (193 carbs, 230 protein [plus 40 g bcaa], 106 fats) estimated burn 4150.
    How long you running Compund 20 for? I just read up on it...I wasn't familiar with it. It looks pretty damn awesome. People were comparing it to Clen. Not as strong but triggering the same receptors...interested to see how you feel about this when you're done!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurningGreen View Post
    How long you running Compund 20 for? I just read up on it...I wasn't familiar with it. It looks pretty damn awesome. People were comparing it to Clen. Not as strong but triggering the same receptors...interested to see how you feel about this when you're done!!
    Am seeing some results but of course given that this is a stack, can't say it is just the c-20. Am liking it so far. Gonna run it till the bottle is gone, am on day 17, going to 6 caps/day is of course going to shorten the run.
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    Rolled out on 10g bcaa and 2 scoops of jack3d for some fasted cardio. 32 minutes, 231 cals. Gonna have to put lifting off till tomorrow as my youngest has his first Little League game tonight. The season is much more demanding than pee wee league so I may have to switch to a 3 day 5x5 routine such as Strong Lifts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886
    Rolled out on 10g bcaa and 2 scoops of jack3d for some fasted cardio. 32 minutes, 231 cals. Gonna have to put lifting off till tomorrow as my youngest has his first Little League game tonight. The season is much more demanding than pee wee league so I may have to switch to a 3 day 5x5 routine such as Strong Lifts.
    Just shift your workouts as needed. Sometimes instead of taking only wed off during the week I take we'd and thurs. or I take wed and fri and sun off. I have to shift them around to fit my schedule, but I don't think it has really hindered anything. In fact at times I've been on sort of a rolling week with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat

    Just shift your workouts as needed. Sometimes instead of taking only wed off during the week I take we'd and thurs. or I take wed and fri and sun off. I have to shift them around to fit my schedule, but I don't think it has really hindered anything. In fact at times I've been on sort of a rolling week with them.
    That's what I am hoping I can do, they may actually play 4-5x's/wk.
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    Diet was pretty tight today: 1842 cals (67 carbs, 166 protein, 99 fats + 40h bcaa) burn of3760.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886 View Post
    Diet was pretty tight today: 1842 cals (67 carbs, 166 protein, 99 fats + 40h bcaa) burn of3760.
    Nice work T
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post
    Nice work T
    Thanks brudda!

    4/28/12 Day 4, wk 3 (85%)
    2:10-3:25

    Standing OH BB Press (this was supposed to be 175 but found out after set 1 I had a 50lb bar)
    180x3 (decreased to 170)x5/5/5/3. May have overstimated my max a bit here, gonna drop it to 200 even for next run through.

    Inc DB Press 80x11/9/3 (increased bench angle on last set so to make up, kept that angle 65'sx12)

    Tate Press 40's x9/9/9

    BO DB Rows (Was at Bryan Ohio Y, only goes to 100lb DBV's)
    12/12, 12/12, 12/12

    Cross Body Hammer Curl @40x10/10, Dropped to 30's and cleaned up the form a bit 12/12, 10/10.

    Finished up with 25 minutes of cardio, 145 cals.
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    Quiet day today, just a short bike ride with my 9 year old. Broke fast around 1, fed till a touch before 8. 1970 cals (75 carbs, 201 pro [+46 g bcaa],91 fats) with an estimated burn of 3400.
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    Dude you made some huge progress holy shiit! Great job keep it up man
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetinyguy View Post
    Dude you made some huge progress holy shiit! Great job keep it up man
    He's very steady, methodical and patient. Keeps on grinding...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

    He's very steady, methodical and patient. Keeps on grinding...
    Thanks DW, although I would go more with persistent than patient lol

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    Rolled out for a fasted session, deload week, so I figured it would be ok even on squat day.

    Day 1, wk 4 (60%)
    12:15-1:00
    Squat 5x5 @ 215 (did these squatting down to a milk crate w/3 45's under it. Did not hit it every rep but got closer w/ each set, did hit on some however)

    Power cleans 5x5 at 105.

    Split squat (still really working on form for these, learning how to get proper foot placement helps)
    Bwx6/6, 10's w/no balance assist 6/6, Bulgarian style no assist w/ 10's 4/4.

    Leg raise 15 (switched to lying) 20/20.

    Wrapped things up with 30 min variable resist cardio - 182 cals.
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    Today was another deload day. You can either reduce your weights or reduce your reps to cut volume. Today, for a change I mixed and matched those options.

    Day 2, wk 4
    5:25-6:00

    Bench 5x5@165

    BW Dip 3x4 reps

    BO BB Row 3x10 @100

    Assisted Pull Up 3x4 at 200.

    Close Grip Bench 3x4@185

    Started doing some cardio then after about 10 minutes just kind of said "F it, did this **** yesterday, gonna hit it tomorrow too".

    Dietary for today: Fed from 12:30-8:30 (Due to deload, reduced intake a bit)
    2466 cals (180 carbs, 205 Protein [plus 40g bcaa], 107 fats) with an estimated burn of 3800.
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    ...I said F it! Love it man ha! Great work my brotha keep it up. Always a pleasure reading up on you're progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886 View Post
    Today was another deload day. You can either reduce your weights or reduce your reps to cut volume. Today, for a change I mixed and matched those options.

    Day 2, wk 4
    5:25-6:00

    Bench 5x5@165

    BW Dip 3x4 reps

    BO BB Row 3x10 @100

    Assisted Pull Up 3x4 at 200.

    Close Grip Bench 3x4@185

    Started doing some cardio then after about 10 minutes just kind of said "F it, did this **** yesterday, gonna hit it tomorrow too".

    Dietary for today: Fed from 12:30-8:30 (Due to deload, reduced intake a bit)
    2466 cals (180 carbs, 205 Protein [plus 40g bcaa], 107 fats) with an estimated burn of 3800.
    I started deload yesterday but still sore ... did 13 wheel of death and that has my core aching some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

    I started deload yesterday but still sore ... did 13 wheel of death and that has my core aching some.
    That'll do it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886 View Post
    That'll do it!
    Turns out Rick is sore from his deload too.. I never considered the higher reps would do that at the weight I was using...
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    Got in an early fasted workout today.

    Day 3, wk 4 (60%/Deload)
    11:20-12:00

    DL 5x5@230

    Front Squat 3x4@180

    Bach Hyperextension 3x12 BW

    DB Shrugs 3x7 @ 100

    Planks 5x30/30

    Finished up with 30 minutes cardio, interval program, 212 cals.
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    Fed from 1:25-8:30. 2596 cals (157 carbs, 229 protein [+57g bcaa] 120 fats). (took some pb at end of the night to fill some cals) est burn 4940.
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    Got a little side tracked today, was gonna hit day 4 after work and was eating accordingly, found out little dude had a scrimmage at 5:30, so we had to adjust on the fly: Burn Day: 1827 cals (126 carbs, 166 protein [+27g bcaa], 75 fats) estimated burn of 3500. Got about two days of C-20 dosing left, wanna finish strong!
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886 View Post
    Got a little side tracked today, was gonna hit day 4 after work and was eating accordingly, found out little dude had a scrimmage at 5:30, so we had to adjust on the fly: Burn Day: 1827 cals (126 carbs, 166 protein [+27g bcaa], 75 fats) estimated burn of 3500. Got about two days of C-20 dosing left, wanna finish strong!
    got some thoughts on C20?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    got some thoughts on C20?
    I am seeing a definitive increase in vascularity, so I am assuming I am leaning out despite minimal scale movement. Obviously, that could be attributable to the Erase Pro (and or the Pro Xanathine) as it tends to have that effect on me but this seems a bit more "intense" for lack of a better term. Have also noted some nice jumps in the iron I was handling on some lifts, for example, had no doubt Tuesday that I could have pushed that 185 in close grips for 8-10 reps but stopped at 4 because it is deload week, when I started working this back into my routine, I think I was at either 155 or 165 for 10. That is a pretty damn nice jump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886 View Post
    I am seeing a definitive increase in vascularity, so I am assuming I am leaning out despite minimal scale movement. Obviously, that could be attributable to the Erase Pro (and or the Pro Xanathine) as it tends to have that effect on me but this seems a bit more "intense" for lack of a better term. Have also noted some nice jumps in the iron I was handling on some lifts, for example, had no doubt Tuesday that I could have pushed that 185 in close grips for 8-10 reps but stopped at 4 because it is deload week, when I started working this back into my routine, I think I was at either 155 or 165 for 10. That is a pretty damn nice jump.
    NICE. Thanks for the mini review.. perhaps I should buy that stack... but then again I have so much Erase pro....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    NICE. Thanks for the mini review.. perhaps I should buy that stack... but then again I have so much Erase pro....
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886 View Post
    I am seeing a definitive increase in vascularity, so I am assuming I am leaning out despite minimal scale movement. Obviously, that could be attributable to the Erase Pro (and or the Pro Xanathine) as it tends to have that effect on me but this seems a bit more "intense" for lack of a better term. Have also noted some nice jumps in the iron I was handling on some lifts, for example, had no doubt Tuesday that I could have pushed that 185 in close grips for 8-10 reps but stopped at 4 because it is deload week, when I started working this back into my routine, I think I was at either 155 or 165 for 10. That is a pretty damn nice jump.
    I am holding lots of my size as well but some water too, it seems to be up and down and when I eat carbs I really turn into a sponge. I am thinking it's the c20 so it will be interesting to know if I flush out. No problem holding water you just have to give yourself time to flush out afterwards then you see big changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I am holding lots of my size as well but some water too, it seems to be up and down and when I eat carbs I really turn into a sponge. I am thinking it's the c20 so it will be interesting to know if I flush out. No problem holding water you just have to give yourself time to flush out afterwards then you see big changes.
    Then we should see some huge changes with my cycle I start next week!

    As has sort of become my Friday tradition, pulling a "double" again today. Started with fasted AM cardio, 28 minutes, 222 cals.
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