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    Quote Originally Posted by T50

    Would be sick but for that amount of money I highly doubt it would be cost effective.
    Might as well do like the hardest **** for that kinda cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T50 View Post
    Would be sick but for that amount of money I highly doubt it would be cost effective.
    That depends on your definition. For those who don't have access or want to go the illicit route, this provides a great alternative. Actual AAS is cheaper, but it comes with a price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    That depends on your definition. For those who don't have access or want to go the illicit route, this provides a great alternative. Actual AAS is cheaper, but it comes with a price.
    Injection in Japan would get me deported, loss of job, and probably LOADS of negative PR.... That would be the best case... if not I'd be put in jail and charged $2 million. Put it this way, you would all hear about it if I got caught lol BUT oral DS is legal...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdpwrlifter View Post
    Strength gains? I am interested.
    Yes, there are DEFINITE strength gains on this 2nd cycle and I'm only on day 16! I just set a new PR today and benched 345 for almost 2 reps! A week ago it was about 325 for 2 reps. The strength and fury literally comes out of nowhere. I felt no different walking into the gym today but damn, my lifts were awesome! Here was my bench routine:

    135x7 (warm-up), 185x5, 225x5, 275x3, 345x2, 355x<failed>, 325x2, 315x2, 295x3, 275x5.

    Again, the main side effect I'm experiencing with the extra 2 capsules at night is the sleeplessness, which is NEVER an issue with me in the past. No matter how tired I am late at night, I haven't been able to fall asleep until 1:30am or so, almost like I'm getting a burst of energy real late after taking 2 capsules at 8 or 9pm.
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    Do they have any stimulants in them like caffeine
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdpwrlifter View Post
    Do they have any stimulants in them like caffeine
    No stimulants in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja

    No stimulants in them.
    What is making him lack sleep, do you presume?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdpwrlifter View Post
    What is making him lack sleep, do you presume?
    It could be hormonal disruption from the late night dosing. I've had that happen to me before from orals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja

    It could be hormonal disruption from the late night dosing. I've had that happen to me before from orals.
    True. That's probably correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    That depends on your definition. For those who don't have access or want to go the illicit route, this provides a great alternative. Actual AAS is cheaper, but it comes with a price.
    Not even comparing it to actual AAS as I normally would. Epi + Trenazone would yield fantastic gains for a fraction of the cost of 8 weeks of AH/AM at 9 caps a day. I understand the aspect of the AndroSeries being less toxic than other PH/DS but i'm not sure if it still has that benefit at the higher than normal dosage.
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    Would dosing that hard have more harsh side effects?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdpwrlifter View Post
    Would dosing that hard have more harsh side effects?
    Usually higher dosage = more likelihood of side effects. But in this case i'm not sure because I don't really know much about the toxicity of the AndroSeries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T50

    Usually higher dosage = more likelihood of side effects. But in this case i'm not sure because I don't really know much about the toxicity of the AndroSeries.
    I've never tried it either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T50 View Post
    Not even comparing it to actual AAS as I normally would. Epi + Trenazone would yield fantastic gains for a fraction of the cost of 8 weeks of AH/AM at 9 caps a day. I understand the aspect of the AndroSeries being less toxic than other PH/DS but i'm not sure if it still has that benefit at the higher than normal dosage.
    I've seen harsh bloods on Trenazone, and I've had similarly harsh sides on Epi, the AndroSeries is way less toxic

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    I've seen harsh bloods on Trenazone, and I've had similarly harsh sides on Epi, the AndroSeries is way less toxic
    I know AH is more of a hardening/strength agent, but what does it compare to Epi? Epi is a lot more anabolic?

    Also, on the PP website there are anabolic/androgenic ratings. What does that really "mean" and it says AH is 100/100 but epi was like 1100/400.
    Would one benefit from stacking the two? Seeing BBG recommended Sdrol and AH, what about Epi and AH?
    I just cant see running AH solo and expecting much other than hardening/strength. I want more recomp/strength.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    I know AH is more of a hardening/strength agent, but what does it compare to Epi? Epi is a lot more anabolic?

    Also, on the PP website there are anabolic/androgenic ratings. What does that really "mean" and it says AH is 100/100 but epi was like 1100/400.
    Would one benefit from stacking the two? Seeing BBG recommended Sdrol and AH, what about Epi and AH?
    I just cant see running AH solo and expecting much other than hardening/strength. I want more recomp/strength.
    Sorry for the thread hijack.
    A:A ratings are a little misleading and don't always translate into real world efficacy. However, you can easily stack Epi+AH for a nice recomp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    A:A ratings are a little misleading and don't always translate into real world efficacy. However, you can easily stack Epi+AH for a nice recomp.
    I agree. Something can look amazing on paper and be average in use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    I agree. Something can look amazing on paper and be average in use.
    I forgot to mention that A:A is based on rat assay as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja

    I forgot to mention that A:A is based on rat assay as well.
    Wait...you mean..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdpwrlifter View Post
    Wait...you mean..?
    The anabolic:androgenic ratios are based off of rat assays. They used castrated rates to come up with these figures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdpwrlifter View Post
    Wait...you mean..?
    Out of curiosity, how did you think they got those figures?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy

    Out of curiosity, how did you think they got those figures?
    True..
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    You can still find a .pdf of Vida's text on the internet if you look hard enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    You can still find a .pdf of Vida's text on the internet if you look hard enough.
    Which is definitely the way to go considering the price ive seen on some used copies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    A:A ratings are a little misleading and don't always translate into real world efficacy. However, you can easily stack Epi+AH for a nice recomp.
    There has been a lot of positive feedback on the AH/Epi stack

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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Which is definitely the way to go considering the price ive seen on some used copies.
    It's insane how much out of print texts go for on Amazon and Ebay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    It's insane how much out of print texts go for on Amazon and Ebay.
    Yep, but for my purposes, an electronic copy will do just fine, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Yep, but for my purposes, an electronic copy will do just fine, lol.
    I have a folder of AAS texts on my laptop. Probably should throw it on a flash drive just for the hell of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I have a folder of AAS texts on my laptop. Probably should throw it on a flash drive just for the hell of it.
    And Share

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    And Share
    I can email them to you.
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    Week #4 Update: I've completed 28 days of AndroMass 8 caps/day and set yet another PR today, bench pressing 355lbs! The strength increases are still consistent week to week and I've gained about 10lbs so far on this cycle. My starting weight was 214lbs and I'm holding steady about 224lbs. There has been a bit more acne this cycle with the increaesed dosage and libido hasn't really dropped off as much as my first cycle. Libido is just slightly below normal actually. So far my negative sides have been increaesed body temperature a few hours after taking Andromass, where I get heated up rather quickly. Also taking the 2 extra pills at night has wreaked havoc on my sleep patterns. No matter if I take it at 7pm or later, it has been hard to fall asleep and I'm amped sometimes late at night. I've even experimented taking AM right before I go to bed around midnight, and I wake up an hour later wide awake! In general, I haven't had the quality sleep I'm used to and I'm sometimes taking a nap in the morning to compensate. Though I guess it's a small price to pay for the definite gains I'm seeing in the gym and the Adonis complex that goes along with this product! I've also noticed it's difficult to be depressed while on Andromass as it acts a a mood enhancer as well. Here's today's bench routine:

    135x8 (warm-up), 185x6, 225x5, 275x3, 315x1, 355x1, 335x2, 325x2, 315x2, 315x1, 295x5 -- to failure.

    I just received 2 more bottles of AndroMass that I've tucked away for next year after I experiment with AndroBulk this winter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    Week #4 Update: I've completed 28 days of AndroMass 8 caps/day and set yet another PR today, bench pressing 355lbs! The strength increases are still consistent week to week and I've gained about 10lbs so far on this cycle. My starting weight was 214lbs and I'm holding steady about 224lbs. There has been a bit more acne this cycle with the increaesed dosage and libido hasn't really dropped off as much as my first cycle. Libido is just slightly below normal actually. So far my negative sides have been increaesed body temperature a few hours after taking Andromass, where I get heated up rather quickly. Also taking the 2 extra pills at night has wreaked havoc on my sleep patterns. No matter if I take it at 7pm or later, it has been hard to fall asleep and I'm amped sometimes late at night. I've even experimented taking AM right before I go to bed around midnight, and I wake up an hour later wide awake! In general, I haven't had the quality sleep I'm used to and I'm sometimes taking a nap in the morning to compensate. Though I guess it's a small price to pay for the definite gains I'm seeing in the gym and the Adonis complex that goes along with this product! I've also noticed it's difficult to be depressed while on Andromass as it acts a a mood enhancer as well. Here's today's bench routine:

    135x8 (warm-up), 185x6, 225x5, 275x3, 315x1, 355x1, 335x2, 325x2, 315x2, 315x1, 295x5 -- to failure.

    I just received 2 more bottles of AndroMass that I've tucked away for next year after I experiment with AndroBulk this winter.
    Very happy to hear you are enjoying the product! I do look forward to your thoughts on AndroBulk as well
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    Do you plan on logging the AndroBulk?
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    cant wait to see your comparisons for AM and AB
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    Andro bulk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdpwrlifter View Post
    Andro bulk?
    One of the new additions to the lineup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Do you plan on logging the AndroBulk?
    Yes, I plan on doin a full log on the new AndroBulk! I'll be off this 6 week cycle mid-October, then PCT for at least 4 weeks. I'll be ready for AndroBulk whenever it's officially released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    Yes, I plan on doin a full log on the new AndroBulk! I'll be off this 6 week cycle mid-October, then PCT for at least 4 weeks. I'll be ready for AndroBulk whenever it's officially released.
    Excited to follow and see your thoughts
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    Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    Yes, I plan on doin a full log on the new AndroBulk! I'll be off this 6 week cycle mid-October, then PCT for at least 4 weeks. I'll be ready for AndroBulk whenever it's officially released.
    I'll be joining you bud, can't wait to try it out

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    The mention of Bulk in our new promo, has me a bit excited:

    AndroBulk - Get ready for sizable, bulky gains. This is a highly anabolic, joint lubricating, heavy lifting monster. When size is all that maters, this is the product.
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