AndroMass or AndroMyth? You decide...
- 08-09-2011, 01:53 AM
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- 08-11-2011, 11:49 AM
It has come to my attention that there may be some adverse side effects with Trenazone, such as gyno, high blood pressure, etc and that I may want to try it independently of Andromass before stacking it. What has everyone's experience been with Trenazone? Is there anything I can take with it concurrently to reduce the sides? Gyno sounds no bueno! That is one thing I did appreciate about Andromass is that I had very little side effects if any. I'm taking advantage of the Andromass 2-for-1 sale today and stocking up!
08-11-2011, 01:53 PM
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08-11-2011, 09:37 PM
08-12-2011, 08:15 AM
Agreed. Tren whacks my libido. Hard to argue against it's effectiveness but it comes at a price for most.Originally Posted by HereToStudy
08-15-2011, 02:14 PM
08-15-2011, 04:10 PM
08-15-2011, 10:05 PM
Damn, tren almost doesnt sound worth it unless you have an extremely hard time gaining any muscle. Sounds better for most to just stick with Andromass and Androhard.
( at heart )
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08-18-2011, 10:51 PM
wish andromass for 8 weeks had been my first cycle, sheet. i feel cheated.
08-19-2011, 08:44 PM
08-29-2011, 11:30 PM
Epistane was my first... real epistane... 20 lbs. in 4 weeks, kept it all and kept gaining. God damn insane.
Celtic Labs Rep
08-29-2011, 11:40 PM
while we go back on memory road, my first cycle was Hdrol for 6 weeks... Made some impressive strength gains... Sadly I only kept my bench numbers. And due to over reaching for too long I pulled my lower back and both deadlifts and Squats have gone WAY down.... Working on moving those numbers up now. Regardless, I'll be saving all my allowance on buying the new androseries ;D
09-02-2011, 11:09 PM
Post-PCT Update 9/2/11: I've been off of PCT for over 2 weeks now, still holding strength gains and about a net 8lb increase in weight. I'm getting ready to check my bloodwork. I did have my blood tested back in January during my annual physical, so I'm going to check it again along with Test & Estrogen levels, etc.
Today was a great day in the gym! I've been off of all supplements for the last 2 weeks except for Toco-8 twice/day plus 250mg of caffeine pre-workout. My lifts have been pretty incredible still and today I pressed 130lb dumb bells for 6 reps, and felt fierce! It really makes me wonder if all that creatine, DMAA, beta alanine, arginine, and mass gainer shakes make a damn difference. In my opinion, high amounts of caffeine are the ticket to improve focus in the gym and sustain energy. Post workout, I've simply been taking in about 20oz of chocolate milk and then eating a huge meal shortly thereafter.
I've done some research on Trenazone and have decided it's just too much of a damn risk with all the associated side effects. Anteus Labs website has no address nor telephone contact info and when I emailed their support link, they claim to be in Asia and do not have a phone number listed due to the time zone difference. I typically do NOT purchase Internet products when the vendor does not list a phone number. At least when I call Primordial Performance I can talk to someone almost every time (such as Matt Porter), and get a full explanation of the products.
I have 2 bottles of AndroMass candy sitting on the table staring at me. I'm getting excited to run it solo again and get that amazing swell for weeks 3-6. That one month when the product is really effective is well worth the price in my opinion. I'm going to dose 3 caps morning and afternoon, and then 2 more caps at night for a total of 8 caps/day during the 6 weeks.
Can anyone comment if the future AndroBulk product will be as safe as AndroMass? Will it be a Tren-like product? I really enjoyed not having too many negative sides with AndroMass and not losing any more hair! The only real sides I experienced was a loss of libido for a good portion of the cycle plus bad gas and bloating. Though...it was VERY cool to see how I looked bigger at 223lbs or so even with the water retention. I gives me something to shoot for
09-02-2011, 11:43 PM
Also, would anyone recommend trying Dermacrine for a 6-week cycle instead of running another AndroMass cycle? Are there similar strength and muscle gains?
09-03-2011, 02:52 PM
AndroBulk will be a 19-nor products, as far as Dermacrine and AM it could help if you experienced any lethargy. Glad you are holding on to gains bud.
09-03-2011, 04:27 PM
Looks like your pct and cycle paid off.
09-05-2011, 12:14 AM
Glad to hear everything was a success.
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09-05-2011, 12:50 AM
so you only used the PP stack for pct? no serm?
09-05-2011, 10:47 AM
09-05-2011, 11:06 AM
and its going to be 19nor with 4-dhea?Originally Posted by ryansm
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09-05-2011, 03:31 PM
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09-07-2011, 02:02 PM
09-07-2011, 03:09 PM
yeah, ive heard great things, i just hadnt heard TOO much about taking it without a serm....
ive always wanted to try a PH, but have a) been worried about the sides (even mild ph's in the cases of some people i know) and b) dont want to have to order a serm (i know theres loop holes in the whole deal, but im in a position right now where i dont want to risk it and be the 1 guy that gets caught and in trouble over something as stupid as a pct for a damned cycle lol)..... these are the reasons PP products have piqued my interest... although, i guess theres still something just inherently weird to me about using a topical product, especially one that supposedly causes rashes if you use it in the same place for too long.
but im definitely giving it strong consideration for next summer (when ive got more money, and the newer versions/products are out), and will most likely give androlean a try while trying to cut before summer (i heard it doesnt even require much of a pct at all)
09-07-2011, 03:47 PM
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