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  1. Quote Originally Posted by rulk22 View Post
    Good mention. I notice a few of my gym buddies always stocking up on ready to drink proteins shakes and protein powders right before a cycle. Btw their adding more whole food while on and after as well.
    Those pre-made RTD's are garbage imo, they use emulsifiers and other chemicals that I don't agree with.



  2. One word: avocado
    M.Ed. Ex Phys

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Those pre-made RTD's are garbage imo, they use emulsifiers and other chemicals that I don't agree with.
    Yeah ive gotten a few of them to use MAP around workouts but they love the convinience of rtd's, oh well.
    Primordial Performance
    ( at heart )

  4. Every RTD I try seems jammed with carrageenan and make me gag.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  5. Week #8 Summary: 7/13/11

    Weight: Decreased 1lbs to 216lbs.
    Libido: Decreased
    Strength: Increased
    Stamina: Increased
    Energy: Increased
    Aggression: Decreased
    Acne: Mild
    Water Retention: None
    Hair Loss: None

    Comments: I just finished the 8 week Andromass cycle and my final gain is about 10lbs. These last 2 weeks it just didn't seem like I had the same "AndroMagic" as in weeks 3-6, so I may run this for a shorter time frame during my next cycle and be more attentive to my calorie intake. Would it be worthwhile to try 8 caps/day in the next cycle, or maybe take 3 caps for 3 servings a day? I'm reluctant to stack with AndroHard due to the potential for hair loss. Any recommendations for stacking in my next cycle?

    Now I'm in day 4 of PCT with TRS/TCF, and I feel pretty good about the changes in my physique these past 8 weeks. My libido is definitely getting back to normal already and my overall strength in the gym is still elevated. I do really miss that insane swelling in my muscles that I had for about a good month, and eventhough there was alot of water weight I did like how I looked over 220lbs. That will be something to shoot for in the next cycle. I do not miss the bloating and excess water weight around the stomach area. Now I actually feel pretty lean compared to my cycle and I can tell there has definitely been an increase in muscle mass. Is it possible to continue to gain lean mass with TRS/TCF? Are there any negative side effects with TRS/TCF?

    Also, is it recommended to take TCF for a straight 24 days, instead of the 12 on, 12 off, 12 on? And for Sustain Alpha, I should just take that for 5 days on, 2 days off until I finish the bottle? I'll continue to give updates through PCT and let you know how much weight I retain.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    Week #8 Summary: 7/13/11

    Weight: Decreased 1lbs to 216lbs.
    Libido: Decreased
    Strength: Increased
    Stamina: Increased
    Energy: Increased
    Aggression: Decreased
    Acne: Mild
    Water Retention: None
    Hair Loss: None

    Comments: I just finished the 8 week Andromass cycle and my final gain is about 10lbs. These last 2 weeks it just didn't seem like I had the same "AndroMagic" as in weeks 3-6, so I may run this for a shorter time frame during my next cycle and be more attentive to my calorie intake. Would it be worthwhile to try 8 caps/day in the next cycle, or maybe take 3 caps for 3 servings a day? I'm reluctant to stack with AndroHard due to the potential for hair loss. Any recommendations for stacking in my next cycle?

    Now I'm in day 4 of PCT with TRS/TCF, and I feel pretty good about the changes in my physique these past 8 weeks. My libido is definitely getting back to normal already and my overall strength in the gym is still elevated. I do really miss that insane swelling in my muscles that I had for about a good month, and eventhough there was alot of water weight I did like how I looked over 220lbs. That will be something to shoot for in the next cycle. I do not miss the bloating and excess water weight around the stomach area. Now I actually feel pretty lean compared to my cycle and I can tell there has definitely been an increase in muscle mass. Is it possible to continue to gain lean mass with TRS/TCF? Are there any negative side effects with TRS/TCF?

    Also, is it recommended to take TCF for a straight 24 days, instead of the 12 on, 12 off, 12 on? And for Sustain Alpha, I should just take that for 5 days on, 2 days off until I finish the bottle? I'll continue to give updates through PCT and let you know how much weight I retain.
    Did you have body comps done throughout?

    For TCF-1, I go through the whole bottle. I do SA with the 5/2 protocol. It is possible to gain LBM with the stack, but, during PCT, it's probably not going to happen. I personally haven't had any negative side effects from the stack.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  7. Usually unless your prone to shedding, Androhard really wont make you shed. Taking Toco 8 twice daily as a great way to keep from shedding btw.
    Primordial Performance
    ( at heart )

  8. No, I unfortunately did not have any body comps taken during this first cycle. I'm am going to do that definitely for any future cycles. Yes, I am definitely prone to hair shedding so I'm not sure if I'd risk AndroHard. BTW..so far on TCF/TRS I've noticed oily skin/acne, a bit of diaharea, and increased energy.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    No, I unfortunately did not have any body comps taken during this first cycle. I'm am going to do that definitely for any future cycles. Yes, I am definitely prone to hair shedding so I'm not sure if I'd risk AndroHard. BTW..so far on TCF/TRS I've noticed oily skin/acne, a bit of diaharea, and increased energy.
    Keep us updated on your progress through PCT, interested in how quick you recover and what gains you retain.


  10. The diarrhea is probably from the TCF-1, but it is only temporary.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  11. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    The diarrhea is probably from the TCF-1, but it is only temporary.
    I have only had this issue once, and fortunately have used TCF-1 without issue since then.
    Just inject.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    I have only had this issue once, and fortunately have used TCF-1 without issue since then.
    Depending on what and how much you eat, that can help alleviate the diahrea issue.
    Primordial Performance
    ( at heart )

  13. Nice log. Going to subscribe.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by rulk22 View Post
    Depending on what and how much you eat, that can help alleviate the diahrea issue.
    Ya, taken after a meal, especially a higher carb meal seems to negate this issue


  15. Diarrhea has now gone away after about 6 days of TCF-1, and I'm still holding at 216lbs after 1 week of PCT. Out of curiosity, how long does it take for AndroMass to fully leave the body? I really haven't noticed too much in transition to PCT except strength is down just a bit. Also after a full month of PCT, what is the typical timeframe to begin another cycle safely? Would it be ok to try 8 caps/day? Also, I've increased my Toco-8 to twice daily to see if it helps a bit with hair regrowth these next few months.

    Also, for my next cycle I'm going to cut out the weight gainer shakes completely and stick with my own homegrown shakes, plus only whole foods. No more shakes in a bottle or mix! I'm also going to eliminate the preworkout drink which has 300mg caffeine and 100mg DMAA, and just stick with Creatine+L-Arginine+Beta Alanine. I'm pretty sure too much of these stimulants are curbing my appetite for many hours after my workout. Maybe I'll just slam down a cup of black coffee instead! And lastly, I'm going to keep a more accurate food log to make damn sure I'm getting in the required nutrients! The most challenging part of this cycle for me has definitely been eating enough frequently throughout the day.

  16. Primordial reps...How can I signup to test the next generation of AndroSeries?

  17. Final strength increase?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    Primordial reps...How can I signup to test the next generation of AndroSeries?
    When it gets closer to the actual date, we'll have more info. We don't want to have the same fiasco that we had earlier this year.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  19. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    When it gets closer to the actual date, we'll have more info. We don't want to have the same fiasco that we had earlier this year.
    I am happy for that. My psychiatrist warned me about this....
    Just inject.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    I am happy for that. My psychiatrist warned me about this....
    I'm sure the GF warned you about it, too.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  21. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja

    When it gets closer to the actual date, we'll have more info. We don't want to have the same fiasco that we had earlier this year.
    What happened?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy

    I am happy for that. My psychiatrist warned me about this....
    LMAO! Smart man.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by mdpwrlifter View Post
    What happened?
    Check our future of PP thread....


  24. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
    Check our future of PP thread....
    Just did.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I'm sure the GF warned you about it, too.
    Indeed, lol.
    Just inject.
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