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  1. Primordial reps...How can I signup to test the next generation of AndroSeries?


  2. Final strength increase?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    Primordial reps...How can I signup to test the next generation of AndroSeries?
    When it gets closer to the actual date, we'll have more info. We don't want to have the same fiasco that we had earlier this year.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  4. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    When it gets closer to the actual date, we'll have more info. We don't want to have the same fiasco that we had earlier this year.
    I am happy for that. My psychiatrist warned me about this....
    Just inject.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    I am happy for that. My psychiatrist warned me about this....
    I'm sure the GF warned you about it, too.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys

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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja

    When it gets closer to the actual date, we'll have more info. We don't want to have the same fiasco that we had earlier this year.
    What happened?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy

    I am happy for that. My psychiatrist warned me about this....
    LMAO! Smart man.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by mdpwrlifter View Post
    What happened?
    Check our future of PP thread....


  9. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
    Check our future of PP thread....
    Just did.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I'm sure the GF warned you about it, too.
    Indeed, lol.
    Just inject.
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  11. Great log btw
    BODY PERFORMANCE SOLUTIONS REP
    Sustain Alpha is back!

  12. Quote Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy View Post
    Great log btw
    Heavily agree.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  13. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    Diarrhea has now gone away after about 6 days of TCF-1, and I'm still holding at 216lbs after 1 week of PCT. Out of curiosity, how long does it take for AndroMass to fully leave the body? I really haven't noticed too much in transition to PCT except strength is down just a bit. Also after a full month of PCT, what is the typical timeframe to begin another cycle safely? Would it be ok to try 8 caps/day? Also, I've increased my Toco-8 to twice daily to see if it helps a bit with hair regrowth these next few months.

    Also, for my next cycle I'm going to cut out the weight gainer shakes completely and stick with my own homegrown shakes, plus only whole foods. No more shakes in a bottle or mix! I'm also going to eliminate the preworkout drink which has 300mg caffeine and 100mg DMAA, and just stick with Creatine+L-Arginine+Beta Alanine. I'm pretty sure too much of these stimulants are curbing my appetite for many hours after my workout. Maybe I'll just slam down a cup of black coffee instead! And lastly, I'm going to keep a more accurate food log to make damn sure I'm getting in the required nutrients! The most challenging part of this cycle for me has definitely been eating enough frequently throughout the day.
    This was an outstanding log but I never seen a reply to Savida’s question on this post which I am curious about myself … After a full month of PCT, what is the typical timeframe to begin another cycle safely?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by JD Intl View Post
    This was an outstanding log but I never seen a reply to Savida’s question on this post which I am curious about myself … After a full month of PCT, what is the typical timeframe to begin another cycle safely?
    The only way to truly know if you have fully recovered is with bloodwork.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  15. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    The only way to truly know if you have fully recovered is with bloodwork.
    What exactly in the bloodwork will tell if I've fully recovered? I also thought I read that after 4 weeks of PCT, another 4 weeks off is recommended before starting another cycle.

    I'm on day 14 of PCT and I still feel pretty damn good with the TRS/TCF/Toco-8 stack. My strength is still up and my final gains roughly have been about a 50lb increase in bench press, 100lb increase in squats, 20lb increase in dumbbell curl, and increased reps in all exercises. Just today I set a new PR with 130lb dumbbell presses, which was formerly 120lb dumbbell presses. I thought that was pretty cool to keep my strength up during PCT so far! I've maintained my 10lb body weight increase still at 216lbs and have had a surprisingly decent pump each workout using TRS/TCF. My libido has been severely low this past week and I've had a bit more acne and oily skin. I've noticed my testicles have been pretty damn large too during PCT! I'm already looking forward to running AndroMass again and revisiting that 24/7 pump that was SICK!

    Once again, I'd like to ask if I can run AndroMass next time at 8 caps/day for 6 weeks, or if anyone has a recommendation of a good stack besides AndroHard. Maybe a PP rep can PM me and tell me to wait for the next gen of AndoSeries products

  16. Blood work should tell your cholesterol levels and such...if I'm not mistaken..

  17. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    What exactly in the bloodwork will tell if I've fully recovered? I also thought I read that after 4 weeks of PCT, another 4 weeks off is recommended before starting another cycle.

    I'm on day 14 of PCT and I still feel pretty damn good with the TRS/TCF/Toco-8 stack. My strength is still up and my final gains roughly have been about a 50lb increase in bench press, 100lb increase in squats, 20lb increase in dumbbell curl, and increased reps in all exercises. Just today I set a new PR with 130lb dumbbell presses, which was formerly 120lb dumbbell presses. I thought that was pretty cool to keep my strength up during PCT so far! I've maintained my 10lb body weight increase still at 216lbs and have had a surprisingly decent pump each workout using TRS/TCF. My libido has been severely low this past week and I've had a bit more acne and oily skin. I've noticed my testicles have been pretty damn large too during PCT! I'm already looking forward to running AndroMass again and revisiting that 24/7 pump that was SICK!

    Once again, I'd like to ask if I can run AndroMass next time at 8 caps/day for 6 weeks, or if anyone has a recommendation of a good stack besides AndroHard. Maybe a PP rep can PM me and tell me to wait for the next gen of AndoSeries products
    For recovery you are going to want to compare with previous blood work, LH, FSH, Total testosterone, estrogen etc..


  18. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    For recovery you are going to want to compare with previous blood work, LH, FSH, Total testosterone, estrogen etc..
    Exactly. You can be in range, but not where you were pre-cycle.
    Just inject.
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  19. It's not just one number that you look for in post-cycle bloods. It's the overall picture that you need to have to know whether or not you are truly recovered.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  20. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    It's not just one number that you look for in post-cycle bloods. It's the overall picture that you need to have to know whether or not you are truly recovered.
    Which is why pre cycle blood work is important


  21. man, ive been wondering how andromass would work with the trs pct and no serm... blood pressure kind of scared me though, thats a pretty big increase, and mine is always 125-135 to BEGIN with (and i take hawthorne berry!)

    with regard to diarrhea, im on supertest week 4 right now and i had it beginning week 2 and havent had a REALLY solid **** since... what causes that? should i be worried?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by bill86 View Post
    man, ive been wondering how andromass would work with the trs pct and no serm... blood pressure kind of scared me though, thats a pretty big increase, and mine is always 125-135 to BEGIN with (and i take hawthorne berry!)

    with regard to diarrhea, im on supertest week 4 right now and i had it beginning week 2 and havent had a REALLY solid **** since... what causes that? should i be worried?
    It doesn't look like anything in the product is dangerous, it even provides mild liver/kidney and other healthful support. No idea why it would cause that.

    The BP with andromass can be controlled with hawthorne berry (first two weeks will be an increase in BP though), aged garlic extract, minoxidil or, per Rodja's suggestion, a small dose of cialis.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by bill86 View Post
    man, ive been wondering how andromass would work with the trs pct and no serm... blood pressure kind of scared me though, thats a pretty big increase, and mine is always 125-135 to BEGIN with (and i take hawthorne berry!)

    with regard to diarrhea, im on supertest week 4 right now and i had it beginning week 2 and havent had a REALLY solid **** since... what causes that? should i be worried?
    Your body could be utilising food better or its upsetting your digestion process. Hows your water intake, the same?
    Primordial Performance
    ( at heart )

  24. Day 20 of PCT and I'm still holding steady at +10lb gain, which is 216lbs. A few days ago I ran out of TCF, when the remaining part of the product solidified at the bottom of the bottle. I tried placing the bottle in both hot and warm water with no luck at breaking apart the sludge that remained. I called Primordial's customer service line and they shipped me out a replacement bottle the same day! I was also happy to hear that a new and improved Andromass v3.0 is in the works!

    Libido is still a bit shaky during PCT and I felt like it was coming back before my TCF ran out. Overall my strength gains are holding steady and today I tested my bench press again and I'm still pushing 325lbs for a few reps, so I'm a very satisfied customer with these results. I've also tapered off my strong pre-workout drinks and creatine, and I'm finding that I still have the same level of energy and pump in the gym without them. Gaining 5+lbs of muscle on this cycle has been the ticket

    I'm planning on checking my bloodwork a few weeks after I end PCT later this month. My next cycle I'm thinking about 6 weeks of Trenazone with Andromass.

  25. sorry, i dont mean to hijack your thread.... this is an awesome log.

    but yeah, my water intake has been the same. my... well, bowels, have seemed to have solidified, haha. ive read that milk thistle can do this, and although the dosage of mt in the supertest is low, ive never taken it in any amount before, so maybe that caused it. there still seems to be more bile in them though.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    I'm planning on checking my bloodwork a few weeks after I end PCT later this month. My next cycle I'm thinking about 6 weeks of Trenazone with Andromass.
    NICE!
    Just inject.
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    Day 20 of PCT and I'm still holding steady at +10lb gain, which is 216lbs. A few days ago I ran out of TCF, when the remaining part of the product solidified at the bottom of the bottle. I tried placing the bottle in both hot and warm water with no luck at breaking apart the sludge that remained. I called Primordial's customer service line and they shipped me out a replacement bottle the same day! I was also happy to hear that a new and improved Andromass v3.0 is in the works!

    Libido is still a bit shaky during PCT and I felt like it was coming back before my TCF ran out. Overall my strength gains are holding steady and today I tested my bench press again and I'm still pushing 325lbs for a few reps, so I'm a very satisfied customer with these results. I've also tapered off my strong pre-workout drinks and creatine, and I'm finding that I still have the same level of energy and pump in the gym without them. Gaining 5+lbs of muscle on this cycle has been the ticket

    I'm planning on checking my bloodwork a few weeks after I end PCT later this month. My next cycle I'm thinking about 6 weeks of Trenazone with Andromass.
    v3 is going to be awesome for everyone. Some tweaks to address some of the issues that have arisen from the first 2 versions.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  28. Nice log. Very informative too.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    v3 is going to be awesome for everyone. Some tweaks to address some of the issues that have arisen from the first 2 versions.
    Very much looking forward to this.
    Just inject.
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Very much looking forward to this.
    We can't sit back and rest on our laurels.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys

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