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  1. I'm in, good luck w/ that second bottle.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    I think I've been increasing my cals since I've been eating like a beast! I'll see if I can add-on another meal during the day. One challenge I've always had is eating after I workout, as I'm usually amped for a few hours and have absolutely no appetite. I usually just force down a shake to get the required nutrients during that critical post-workout window.
    I do not know how lean you are trying to bulk but I drink a chocoalte milk a day (my cheat food). I drink it throughout the day boom an extra @700cals. I work on my feet all day so the extra carbs do not hurt.
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  3. On my workout days, I usually drink a 1000 cal Peanut Butter Moo'd w/whey & soy protein to help fill in the gaps, but I'm going to eliminate that and replace with actual food. Chocolate milk is a great idea though!

  4. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    On my workout days, I usually drink a 1000 cal Peanut Butter Moo'd w/whey & soy protein to help fill in the gaps, but I'm going to eliminate that and replace with actual food. Chocolate milk is a great idea though!
    Leave the 1000 cal protein drink in your diet, just add more food along with it .

  5. lToday was an epic day in the gym! I went in with a mission to go commando on the bench press, and I finally broke about my old max of 315, and set a new max of 325! I attempted 335 but was too damn fatigued and need my spotter to assist. So let's see...about a month ago I was *barely* benching 285 once, and now I've increased that by 40lbs. I am completely 100% that Andromass kicks some serious ass. I'm a believer. I also formerly would do dumbbell flies with 80 lbs max, and today I killed it with the 100lb dumbbells. Here's today's workout:

    Elliptical: 10 min warm-up.
    Bench Press: 135x10, 185x5, 225x5, 275x5, 315x1, 325x1, 275x6
    Bench dumbbell flies: 40x10, 60x10, 80x10, 100x8
    Incline barbell press: 135x10, 205x8, 225x5, 185x5
    Tricep overhead extension: 90x10, 150x10, 180x10, 210x10.
    Tricep rope pull down: 90x10, 180x10, 210x10, 210x10
    Iso lateral row (each arm): 90x10, 180x8, 225x5, 225x5
    Hack Squat: 180x10, 360x8, 540x8, 720x5, 360x8
    Hip adductor machine: 80x15, 160x15, 200x10, 200x10.
    Hip abductor machine: 80x15, 160x15, 200x10, 200x10.
    Calf raise machine (each foot): 100x10, 180x10, 250x10, 300x8, 300x8.
    Seated calf-raise: 90x10, 180x10, 270x8, 315x5, 315x4, 225x10.
    Ab circuit
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  6. Congrats on the big PR. Adding 10 lbs in any given session is a big accomplishment.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  7. Damn man 40 pound on bench in a month is really impressive...reminds me of my OG Mass Tabs cycle lol. Keep killin it and like previously mentioned, keep increasing those cals!!!
    Cutting all summer, cycle in September

  8. Some pretty crazy results indeed!


  9. Glad to hear it is treating you well. Congrats on the PR!
    Just inject.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    lToday was an epic day in the gym! I went in with a mission to go commando on the bench press, and I finally broke about my old max of 315, and set a new max of 325! I attempted 335 but was too damn fatigued and need my spotter to assist. So let's see...about a month ago I was *barely* benching 285 once, and now I've increased that by 40lbs. I am completely 100% that Andromass kicks some serious ass. I'm a believer. I also formerly would do dumbbell flies with 80 lbs max, and today I killed it with the 100lb dumbbells. Here's today's workout:

    Elliptical: 10 min warm-up.
    Bench Press: 135x10, 185x5, 225x5, 275x5, 315x1, 325x1, 275x6
    Bench dumbbell flies: 40x10, 60x10, 80x10, 100x8
    Incline barbell press: 135x10, 205x8, 225x5, 185x5
    Tricep overhead extension: 90x10, 150x10, 180x10, 210x10.
    Tricep rope pull down: 90x10, 180x10, 210x10, 210x10
    Iso lateral row (each arm): 90x10, 180x8, 225x5, 225x5
    Hack Squat: 180x10, 360x8, 540x8, 720x5, 360x8
    Hip adductor machine: 80x15, 160x15, 200x10, 200x10.
    Hip abductor machine: 80x15, 160x15, 200x10, 200x10.
    Calf raise machine (each foot): 100x10, 180x10, 250x10, 300x8, 300x8.
    Seated calf-raise: 90x10, 180x10, 270x8, 315x5, 315x4, 225x10.
    Ab circuit
    Sweet! Keep breaking the pr's bro.
    Primordial Performance
    ( at heart )

  11. Dude those are awesome stats! im getting my bottle tomorrow, but undecided if i should do 4 weeks or 8 weeks like you. sorry i know this is your post, but im just wondering if this would be good for my stacks? 2pills,twice a day(i can do 6 weeks). And before workouts i will take Wheybolic extreme protein, 1 pill of kre-alk. Omega twice a day also. but for my PCT, what should i take? I wanna keep my gains. Also when would be a good idea to start a new cycle of it? Thanks!

  12. I meant to say Kre-alk pre workout, post workout wheybolic extreme. Omega before and after. 2pills of ANDROmass around 12, Workout at 3, 2 pills after of ANDROmass at 5? hows that sound??

  13. Well I'm not sure what to recommend for an appropriate stack with AndroMass with AndroHard/AndroLean, but I can definitely tell you is the best part of the product so far for me has been weeks 4 and 5, where strength has gone thru the roof! I've heard that you probably want to run it at full dos3, 3 caps, 2 times/day, to get the maximum returns on the product. I'm ending week 5 tomorrow and 8 weeks doesn't seem long enough! Also, make sure your diet is in check and that you seriously take in alot of good nutrition.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by honda81 View Post
    Dude those are awesome stats! im getting my bottle tomorrow, but undecided if i should do 4 weeks or 8 weeks like you. sorry i know this is your post, but im just wondering if this would be good for my stacks? 2pills,twice a day(i can do 6 weeks). And before workouts i will take Wheybolic extreme protein, 1 pill of kre-alk. Omega twice a day also. but for my PCT, what should i take? I wanna keep my gains. Also when would be a good idea to start a new cycle of it? Thanks!
    If you are dosing AndroMass solo go wit the full recommended 3/3 dose 6 apart. The other supplements you mentioned are fine to stack with it, but ultimately diet and training are the most important factors. For PCT we recommend our TRS stack.


  15. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    If you are dosing AndroMass solo go wit the full recommended 3/3 dose 6 apart. The other supplements you mentioned are fine to stack with it, but ultimately diet and training are the most important factors. For PCT we recommend our TRS stack.
    ok i will thanks. today i had my first day and i had some nice pumps. i ate a **** load too. and drank a bunch of water. i really liking it and the only thing was i was sweating like an animal. my question is... should i take the andromass on off days too? or no? the bottle only said 56caps, i wanna make the whole 4weeks. and should i do 4weeks or 8weeks? thanks

  16. Quote Originally Posted by honda81 View Post
    ok i will thanks. today i had my first day and i had some nice pumps. i ate a **** load too. and drank a bunch of water. i really liking it and the only thing was i was sweating like an animal. my question is... should i take the andromass on off days too? or no? the bottle only said 56caps, i wanna make the whole 4weeks. and should i do 4weeks or 8weeks? thanks
    YES. take it everyday! One bottle will last 4 weeks, not sure where you are getting 56 caps from? Run it 4 weeks, in the future you can bump that to 6,8.


  17. Week #5 Summary: 6/22/11
    Weight: Increased 2lb to 221lbs.
    Libido: Decreased
    Strength: Increased
    Stamina: Increased
    Energy: Increased
    Aggression: Increased
    Acne: None
    Water Retention: High
    Hair Loss: None

    Comments: This week I gained another 2lbs for a total of 15lbs in 5 weeks, and 3 weeks left to go in this cycle. I've added another meal late at night before bedtime and otherwise I'm continually eating, which is probably the most challenging part of this cycle. Eating a ton of red meat seems to be the ticket so far. Last weekend I set a new PR on the leg press at 1005lbs, which was formerly about 825. I used to get intimidated at stacking 9-45lb weights on each side of the press, and now I'm up to 11 plates and I"m still not maxed out. I also set another PR on my bench press at 335lb, and afterwards I did single sets of 315lbs with ease which blows my mind. 225lbs on the bench press now feels like 135 used to feel! Tomorrow I'm shooting for a new PR of 345lbs to keep challenging myself. I've noticed all my clothes are fitting much tighter and I've had some serious growth in my quads and shoulders. The muscles around my chins are also seriously pumped and it's a phenomenal feeling walking around the gym and slaying every exercise. It takes me back a few years ago when I first started working out, and I could actually *see* the results in the mirror progressively each week. It brings new life back into weight training when there are no plateaus I'm struggling with and it feels like every day in the gym is entirely productive. I would say the only negative aspect so far has been the excess water weight and a bit of fat around the midsection, though I know that along with muscle gain comes some fat as well. Also, I do feel a "thermo" effect occassionally throughout the day where it feels like a heat cloud is around my face and sometimes my arms. I'm also sweating like a madman in the gym these past 2 weeks. I feel most of the strength and gains from Andromass was unleashed in weeks 4 and 5.

    I have been thinking about spacing my Andromass dose apart by 12 hours instead of 6 hours. What type of effect would this have on the results and are there any benefits?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    Week #5 Summary: 6/22/11
    Weight: Increased 2lb to 221lbs.
    Libido: Decreased
    Strength: Increased
    Stamina: Increased
    Energy: Increased
    Aggression: Increased
    Acne: None
    Water Retention: High
    Hair Loss: None

    Comments: This week I gained another 2lbs for a total of 15lbs in 5 weeks, and 3 weeks left to go in this cycle. I've added another meal late at night before bedtime and otherwise I'm continually eating, which is probably the most challenging part of this cycle. Eating a ton of red meat seems to be the ticket so far. Last weekend I set a new PR on the leg press at 1005lbs, which was formerly about 825. I used to get intimidated at stacking 9-45lb weights on each side of the press, and now I'm up to 11 plates and I"m still not maxed out. I also set another PR on my bench press at 335lb, and afterwards I did single sets of 315lbs with ease which blows my mind. 225lbs on the bench press now feels like 135 used to feel! Tomorrow I'm shooting for a new PR of 345lbs to keep challenging myself. I've noticed all my clothes are fitting much tighter and I've had some serious growth in my quads and shoulders. The muscles around my chins are also seriously pumped and it's a phenomenal feeling walking around the gym and slaying every exercise. It takes me back a few years ago when I first started working out, and I could actually *see* the results in the mirror progressively each week. It brings new life back into weight training when there are no plateaus I'm struggling with and it feels like every day in the gym is entirely productive. I would say the only negative aspect so far has been the excess water weight and a bit of fat around the midsection, though I know that along with muscle gain comes some fat as well. Also, I do feel a "thermo" effect occassionally throughout the day where it feels like a heat cloud is around my face and sometimes my arms. I'm also sweating like a madman in the gym these past 2 weeks. I feel most of the strength and gains from Andromass was unleashed in weeks 4 and 5.

    I have been thinking about spacing my Andromass dose apart by 12 hours instead of 6 hours. What type of effect would this have on the results and are there any benefits?
    Very nice update. I have been dosing 12 hours apart, so I can't compare, but my gains have been good. The idea behind not doing it 12 huors apart is to give your body a chance at reducing suppression by having lower exogenous hormones while you sleep.
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  19. I need to get in on the 2nd half...subing.

    Congrats on the PR & a 40lb strength gain in 4 weeks!

  20. I have been doing 6 hours these first 2 days, and it seems all fine to me. But nice update! seems like its going great. But question.. you bench everyday? If im not mistaken.. thats pretty bad for your muscles, right?

  21. Quote Originally Posted by honda81 View Post
    I have been doing 6 hours these first 2 days, and it seems all fine to me. But nice update! seems like its going great. But question.. you bench everyday? If im not mistaken.. thats pretty bad for your muscles, right?
    Where does he say he benches everyday?

    The last update he wrote he mentions benching was the 16th, which was a week ago today.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  22. Great update, and awesome progress. Your log really has me interested in the new PP andro series.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by honda81 View Post
    I have been doing 6 hours these first 2 days, and it seems all fine to me. But nice update! seems like its going great. But question.. you bench everyday? If im not mistaken.. thats pretty bad for your muscles, right?
    I usually bench every 3 days, which is about twice/week. I follow that principle for all muscle groups actually to avoid overtraining, except for abs which I'll work more frequently with different intensity levels.

  24. Keep the does the same, you have been on for 5 weeks now I don't see any reason in changing things.


  25. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Keep the does the same, you have been on for 5 weeks now I don't see any reason in changing things.
    Agreed.
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  26. I will be reaching 6 weeks on AM in a few days. Am I ok to run this 8 weeks? Are there any risks or side effects I should know about? Anything I should look out for?

  27. I'd say you're in the clear to run it for 8 weeks.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  28. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I'd say you're in the clear to run it for 8 weeks.
    X2. 8 weeks is a great cycle!
    Just inject.
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  29. Week #6 Summary: 6/29/11

    Weight: Decreased 2lbs to 219lbs.
    Libido: Decreased
    Strength: Increased
    Stamina: Increased
    Energy: Increased
    Aggression: Increased
    Acne: None
    Water Retention: Medium
    Hair Loss: None

    Comments: This week I lost 2lbs back to about 219lbs, which I attribute to being sick for a few days from last Thursday-Saturday. I felt really weak and achey, plus I had a bad upset stomach and symptoms of the flu. I'm not sure where this came from but it passed pretty quickly and I was back on track after the weekend. I've noticed some of the water gain is gone and I'm definitely tighter in the midsection. My strength is still on fire and my highlights this past week were dumbbell chest flies with 110lb each arm which is a new PR, 3 reps of 315lbs on the bench press, and the same 405lb squats. I think overall my diet was just about at maintenance level this week which probably explains the lack of weight gain, though I am definitely keeping my definition I've earned the last few weeks. A few other things I've noticed is I've been a bit lethargic and a few of the nights I've really wanted to sleep much longer than normal, and the next morning it has been really difficult to get out of bed!

    How can I tell the degree of my own testosterone shutdown? Once I go into PCT in 2 weeks, what should I expect?

    Also, I've been taking Toco-8 now for the full 6 weeks and haven't noticed any changes in hair regrowth. Does anyone know how long the product should be taken before results are seen?

  30. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    Week #6 Summary: 6/29/11

    Weight: Decreased 2lbs to 219lbs.
    Libido: Decreased
    Strength: Increased
    Stamina: Increased
    Energy: Increased
    Aggression: Increased
    Acne: None
    Water Retention: Medium
    Hair Loss: None

    Comments: This week I lost 2lbs back to about 219lbs, which I attribute to being sick for a few days from last Thursday-Saturday. I felt really weak and achey, plus I had a bad upset stomach and symptoms of the flu. I'm not sure where this came from but it passed pretty quickly and I was back on track after the weekend. I've noticed some of the water gain is gone and I'm definitely tighter in the midsection. My strength is still on fire and my highlights this past week were dumbbell chest flies with 110lb each arm which is a new PR, 3 reps of 315lbs on the bench press, and the same 405lb squats. I think overall my diet was just about at maintenance level this week which probably explains the lack of weight gain, though I am definitely keeping my definition I've earned the last few weeks. A few other things I've noticed is I've been a bit lethargic and a few of the nights I've really wanted to sleep much longer than normal, and the next morning it has been really difficult to get out of bed!

    How can I tell the degree of my own testosterone shutdown? Once I go into PCT in 2 weeks, what should I expect?

    Also, I've been taking Toco-8 now for the full 6 weeks and haven't noticed any changes in hair regrowth. Does anyone know how long the product should be taken before results are seen?
    Without bloods, it's impossible to truly tell the level of shutdown. However, your PCT should be smooth.

    Regarding the Toco-8, it really isn't a fair assessment on its efficacy to regrow hair while using a product which carries some risk of androgenic sides.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys

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