AndroMass or AndroMyth? You decide...

[mdpwrlifter]

Would be sick but for that amount of money I highly doubt it would be cost effective.

Might as well do like the hardest **** for that kinda cash.

[Rodja]

Would be sick but for that amount of money I highly doubt it would be cost effective.

That depends on your definition. For those who don't have access or want to go the illicit route, this provides a great alternative. Actual AAS is cheaper, but it comes with a price.

[mattrag]

That depends on your definition. For those who don't have access or want to go the illicit route, this provides a great alternative. Actual AAS is cheaper, but it comes with a price.

Injection in Japan would get me deported, loss of job, and probably LOADS of negative PR.... That would be the best case... if not I'd be put in jail and charged $2 million. Put it this way, you would all hear about it if I got caught lol BUT oral DS is legal...

[svida]

Strength gains? I am interested.

Yes, there are DEFINITE strength gains on this 2nd cycle and I'm only on day 16! I just set a new PR today and benched 345 for almost 2 reps! A week ago it was about 325 for 2 reps. The strength and fury literally comes out of nowhere. I felt no different walking into the gym today but damn, my lifts were awesome! Here was my bench routine:

135x7 (warm-up), 185x5, 225x5, 275x3, 345x2, 355x<failed>, 325x2, 315x2, 295x3, 275x5.

Again, the main side effect I'm experiencing with the extra 2 capsules at night is the sleeplessness, which is NEVER an issue with me in the past. No matter how tired I am late at night, I haven't been able to fall asleep until 1:30am or so, almost like I'm getting a burst of energy real late after taking 2 capsules at 8 or 9pm.

[mdpwrlifter]

Do they have any stimulants in them like caffeine

[Rodja]

Do they have any stimulants in them like caffeine

No stimulants in them.

[mdpwrlifter]

No stimulants in them.

What is making him lack sleep, do you presume?

[Rodja]

What is making him lack sleep, do you presume?

It could be hormonal disruption from the late night dosing. I've had that happen to me before from orals.

[mdpwrlifter]

It could be hormonal disruption from the late night dosing. I've had that happen to me before from orals.

True. That's probably correct.

[T50]

That depends on your definition. For those who don't have access or want to go the illicit route, this provides a great alternative. Actual AAS is cheaper, but it comes with a price.

Not even comparing it to actual AAS as I normally would. Epi + Trenazone would yield fantastic gains for a fraction of the cost of 8 weeks of AH/AM at 9 caps a day. I understand the aspect of the AndroSeries being less toxic than other PH/DS but i'm not sure if it still has that benefit at the higher than normal dosage.

[mdpwrlifter]

Would dosing that hard have more harsh side effects?

[T50]

Would dosing that hard have more harsh side effects?

Usually higher dosage = more likelihood of side effects. But in this case i'm not sure because I don't really know much about the toxicity of the AndroSeries.

[mdpwrlifter]

Usually higher dosage = more likelihood of side effects. But in this case i'm not sure because I don't really know much about the toxicity of the AndroSeries.

I've never tried it either.

[ryansm]

Not even comparing it to actual AAS as I normally would. Epi + Trenazone would yield fantastic gains for a fraction of the cost of 8 weeks of AH/AM at 9 caps a day. I understand the aspect of the AndroSeries being less toxic than other PH/DS but i'm not sure if it still has that benefit at the higher than normal dosage.

I've seen harsh bloods on Trenazone, and I've had similarly harsh sides on Epi, the AndroSeries is way less toxic

[mattrag]

I've seen harsh bloods on Trenazone, and I've had similarly harsh sides on Epi, the AndroSeries is way less toxic

I know AH is more of a hardening/strength agent, but what does it compare to Epi? Epi is a lot more anabolic?

Also, on the PP website there are anabolic/androgenic ratings. What does that really "mean" and it says AH is 100/100 but epi was like 1100/400.
Would one benefit from stacking the two? Seeing BBG recommended Sdrol and AH, what about Epi and AH?
I just cant see running AH solo and expecting much other than hardening/strength. I want more recomp/strength.
Sorry for the thread hijack.

[Rodja]

I know AH is more of a hardening/strength agent, but what does it compare to Epi? Epi is a lot more anabolic?

Also, on the PP website there are anabolic/androgenic ratings. What does that really "mean" and it says AH is 100/100 but epi was like 1100/400.
Would one benefit from stacking the two? Seeing BBG recommended Sdrol and AH, what about Epi and AH?
I just cant see running AH solo and expecting much other than hardening/strength. I want more recomp/strength.
Sorry for the thread hijack.

A:A ratings are a little misleading and don't always translate into real world efficacy. However, you can easily stack Epi+AH for a nice recomp.

[HereToStudy]

A:A ratings are a little misleading and don't always translate into real world efficacy. However, you can easily stack Epi+AH for a nice recomp.

I agree. Something can look amazing on paper and be average in use.

[Rodja]

I agree. Something can look amazing on paper and be average in use.

I forgot to mention that A:A is based on rat assay as well.

[mdpwrlifter]

I forgot to mention that A:A is based on rat assay as well.

Wait...you mean..?

[Rodja]

Wait...you mean..?

The anabolic:androgenic ratios are based off of rat assays. They used castrated rates to come up with these figures.