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    APS Creatine Nitrate and the kitchen sink!


    Starting today I'll be using the following:

    APS Creatine Nitrate
    APS Mesomorph
    DAA (NP Bulk)
    PP Sustain Alpha
    Mr. Supps FormaStanz
    Ruthless 3D Multi
    Forged Joint Repair
    Skeletal Balm
    Genomyx Slin Sane
    Genomyx Protocol
    **** Muscle Replenisher
    LG BCAA/EAA



    For the past 6 weeks I've been running:

    Dermacrine LV 10ML ED
    FormaStanz 10 pumps down to 8 currently
    HCGenerate at 5 ED
    Brutal Alchemy Ancient Strength
    Creatine Mono

    During that time I managed to drop 1-2% BF while maintaining body weight.

    Looking for more of the same in the next couple of weeks. This is my first time with many of these supps so I'll be looking forward to seeing what they can do. I've never run DAA or Creatine Nitrate. Those are my key interest points. Also, I've run ****'s Need2slin a couple of times so the slin sane will be interesting for comparison. On first glance....Protocol, is DELICIOUS! Who knew?

    Training protocol is 3 days a week of lifting with some add'l cardio on the weekends. I've made good progress this way for the last 2 years. I'd love to do 4 days but I've got a lot going on so you take what you can get. Diet will be clean and maintenance cals.

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    Sweeet I'm in for sure! Ya I've gotten to love protocol as well, hey btw how are you like the formastanzol compared to normal formestane? I need to give that stuff a try sometime!
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    Creatine HCL confuses me a bit. Is the hcl in creatine the same as the hcl in the stomach? If so how does this improve bioavailability?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    Sweeet I'm in for sure! Ya I've gotten to love protocol as well, hey btw how are you like the formastanzol compared to normal formestane? I need to give that stuff a try sometime!
    JD, it's actually the first forma product I've used. I have to say I've enjoyed it. Tightened me up quite a bit. Feels good. The carrier they're using is awesome. Stuff is dry almost instantly. I would recommend it for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    JD, it's actually the first forma product I've used. I have to say I've enjoyed it. Tightened me up quite a bit. Feels good. The carrier they're using is awesome. Stuff is dry almost instantly. I would recommend it for sure.
    i agree, i think i have tried every formestane product-and formaztanzol is my favorite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    Creatine HCL confuses me a bit. Is the hcl in creatine the same as the hcl in the stomach? If so how does this improve bioavailability?
    I'm not really sure what the answer to this is. The supposed answer is that hcl increases plasma uptake and thus bio-availability.

    First CN workout tonight.

    Morning Supps:

    1 Slin Sane
    8 pumps Forma
    5 pumps SA
    3 HCgen
    1 Forged Joint
    3D Multi
    2,000 Ius Vit D
    1 Scoop Protocol

    Preworkout Supps.

    8 pumps Formastanz
    4 CN
    Lecheeck Nutrition Speed Extreme
    DAA
    Forged Joint Repair

    Intra: 10g bcaa's

    Post: **** Muscle Replenisher/Protocol. Orange MR and Protocol taste great together btw. 1 Slin Sane with Dinner.

    Leg/shoulders

    Back is still hurting a bit so no squats this week.

    Leg Press 240x15, 330x12,510x10,560x8
    Bulgarian Split Squats 3x10 w/35lb dbs. God those things burn!
    Hammer Leg Curls 3x10
    Leg Extensions 190x15,205x10,205x6,200x5

    DB Shoulder Press 50x15,65x10x2
    Side Lat DB Raise 35x12x3

    My legs were so pumped they hurt to stand, walk,squat or just about anything else. Not sure how much role the CN played in that because those split squats pump me up but not normally THAT much. F'n hurt. LOL.

    The Lecheek was pretty nice. First time I tried it I didn't use quite the whole sample and it was....ok. Much better energy with the whole thing and I was sweating like a pig. Burning in the eyes and all. Fun stuff.

    Day one down.
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    Morning Supps:

    1 Slin Sane
    8 pumps Forma
    5 pumps SA
    3 HCgen
    1 Forged Joint
    3D Multi
    2,000 Ius Vit D
    1 Scoop Protocol

    Preworkout Supps.

    8 pumps Formastanz
    4 CN
    1 Scoop Meso
    DAA
    Forged Joint Repair
    3D multi

    Intra: 10g bcaa's

    Post: **** Muscle Replenisher/Protocol. 1 Slin Sane with Dinner. 2 CN.

    Chest/Tri's


    10 Min elliptical Warmup

    DB Bench 55x20,75x10,90x4,95x3,85x6
    Incline DB Bench 65x10x3
    Low Pulley Cable Flys 40x12x3
    Smith Decline 225x10,225x8,225x7

    Overhead Rope Press 2x12,1x8
    Cable Kickback 3x10

    Rotater Cable work 3 sets

    Hanging Leg Raises only 1 set tonight.

    I have a bent bone in my left forearm. Did it when I was 14. Causes me shoulder and obviously arm pain from time to time. It's bad today. My left side just kept quitting. Pissed me off and I pushed through it but I'll be hurting the rest of the week for it. I'll be icing it and liberally applying the skeletal balm for a while.

    Good workout overall though. Didn't manage the CN pump I was looking for in my chest but the tri's got it for sure. ****, my arm is killing me typing this.
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    Thats a sick stack and I'm pretty sure it's just as big as the crazy stacks I run LOL

    Wow with the Formastanzol tightening up the skin and Creatine Nitrate giving crazy pumps that combo must give some real nice rock hard pumps!
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    that sucks getting injured, but ice and skeltal balm should help as much as any thing.

    good luck, rahl.
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    LOL JD. You're right. I've been reading too many of your logs apparently!

    Thanks T. I'll be fine in a day or 2. I'm used to it. It's been screwed up for longer than it wasn't at this point so I know the drill well. LOL.

    2 rest days! Wahoo!
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    Is this where the party is at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Is this where the party is at?

    Yep. You found us! You first o.k.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    LOL JD. You're right. I've been reading too many of your logs apparently!

    Thanks T. I'll be fine in a day or 2. I'm used to it. It's been screwed up for longer than it wasn't at this point so I know the drill well. LOL.

    2 rest days! Wahoo!
    pain is just something i have learned to deal with, looks like you have learned that lesson too, lol.

    rest days are your friend-i need 1 myself!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    pain is just something i have learned to deal with, looks like you have learned that lesson too, lol.

    rest days are your friend-i need 1 myself!!!
    Absolutely! I don't get any less pains as the years pass so I just figure you get better at working around them and dealing with them.
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    Morning Supps:

    8 pumps Forma
    5 pumps SA
    3 HCgen
    1 Forged Joint
    3D Multi
    2,000 Ius Vit D
    1 Scoop Protocol
    1 Slin Sane

    Preworkout Supps.

    8 pumps Formastanz
    6 CN
    1 Scoop Meso
    3g DAA
    Forged Joint Repair

    Intra: 10g bcaa's

    Post: **** Muscle Replenisher/Protocol. 2 CN.


    My arm is still really hurting. Pain in my shoulder and forearm. Had to get creative. Back is just recovering from pain over the last couple of weeks so I kept the deads light.

    10 Min elliptical Warmup

    Wide Grip Pullups 10,8,8
    Deads 135x12,185x10,225x8,225x8,275x 8
    Machine Rows 3x10
    Vbar Pulldowns 160x8,160x7,160x6

    Incline Curls 35x15,35x12,35x8

    ^^These starting sending sharp pains through my whole arm so I shut it down. The arm is feeling much better today but still hurting. I iced it last night and I've been constantly applying the Skeletal Balm to the shoulder and elbow joints.

    Really had a bad workout tonight. One of those days where I felt like I had NO ENERGY but oddly I was able to get all of my reps at my normal weights. Even the deads weren't too hard. I was out of breath constantly though. Overall felt flat and weak.


    Had 1 slin sane with breakfast oats and eggs.

    Cheat meal at dinner of pizza. I had 2 slin sane prior to that.

    I had a really low carb day before that pizza and I'm thinking that was part of my flat feeling. Wasn't intentional just the way it worked out. Felt really good this morning and looked really lean upon waking.

    2 Need2sleep at bedtime.
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    Hope the shoulder feels better, I'd def try adding some Super Cissus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    Morning Supps:

    8 pumps Forma
    5 pumps SA
    3 HCgen
    1 Forged Joint
    3D Multi
    2,000 Ius Vit D
    1 Scoop Protocol
    1 Slin Sane

    Preworkout Supps.

    8 pumps Formastanz
    6 CN
    1 Scoop Meso
    3g DAA
    Forged Joint Repair

    Intra: 10g bcaa's

    Post: **** Muscle Replenisher/Protocol. 2 CN.


    My arm is still really hurting. Pain in my shoulder and forearm. Had to get creative. Back is just recovering from pain over the last couple of weeks so I kept the deads light.

    10 Min elliptical Warmup

    Wide Grip Pullups 10,8,8
    Deads 135x12,185x10,225x8,225x8,275x 8
    Machine Rows 3x10
    Vbar Pulldowns 160x8,160x7,160x6

    Incline Curls 35x15,35x12,35x8

    ^^These starting sending sharp pains through my whole arm so I shut it down. The arm is feeling much better today but still hurting. I iced it last night and I've been constantly applying the Skeletal Balm to the shoulder and elbow joints.

    Really had a bad workout tonight. One of those days where I felt like I had NO ENERGY but oddly I was able to get all of my reps at my normal weights. Even the deads weren't too hard. I was out of breath constantly though. Overall felt flat and weak.


    Had 1 slin sane with breakfast oats and eggs.

    Cheat meal at dinner of pizza. I had 2 slin sane prior to that.

    I had a really low carb day before that pizza and I'm thinking that was part of my flat feeling. Wasn't intentional just the way it worked out. Felt really good this morning and looked really lean upon waking.

    2 Need2sleep at bedtime.
    damn, rahl-that is a one hellova stack. i never heard of anyone running forma and sustain at the same time-plus all the other stuff...daa, hcgen....damn-libido must be nutz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    Hope the shoulder feels better, I'd def try adding some Super Cissus.
    I need to do that. I've been doubling up on the Forged Joint repair which has cissus in it in the meantime.

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    damn, rahl-that is a one hellova stack. i never heard of anyone running forma and sustain at the same time-plus all the other stuff...daa, hcgen....damn-libido must be nutz.
    My libido is ALWAYS nuts! But..uh, yeah I'm climbing the walls. LOL. I'm out of the HCGen as of today. That was what was left of the bottle I had going from the first half of my cycle which was derma/hcgen/forma. Been fun so far!

    BTW T, I experienced your "Garden Pump" today. LOL. Had 6 CN before going out and relocating all of my raspberry bushes. Felt good! haha!
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    the cn pump from doing manual labor is different than a gym pump. i don't really like it though-it seems to make my muscles fatigue faster. after an hour of digging the pump is just plain painful. it's funny how something that is so desired and good in the gym just seems to be detrimental for endurance work.

    on a side note, i love cn for weighted stairclimbing?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    the cn pump from doing manual labor is different than a gym pump. i don't really like it though-it seems to make my muscles fatigue faster. after an hour of digging the pump is just plain painful. it's funny how something that is so desired and good in the gym just seems to be detrimental for endurance work.

    on a side note, i love cn for weighted stairclimbing?????
    It did get a bit annoying as it was my shoulders getting pumped and I've got a sore one right now anyway. It wasn't helping in that respect for sure.

    How did you guys dose the CN on non-training days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    It did get a bit annoying as it was my shoulders getting pumped and I've got a sore one right now anyway. It wasn't helping in that respect for sure.

    How did you guys dose the CN on non-training days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    4 caps an hour before sex.
    :X

    The first and second rounds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    :X

    The first and second rounds?
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    Morning Supps:

    8 pumps Forma
    5 pumps SA
    2 Forged Joint
    3D Multi
    2,000 Ius Vit D
    1 Scoop Protocol
    1 Slin Sane

    Preworkout Supps.

    8 pumps Formastanz
    6 CN
    1 Scoop Meso
    3g DAA
    Forged Joint Repair

    Intra: 10g bcaa's

    Post: **** Muscle Replenisher/Protocol. 2 CN.



    10 Min elliptical Warmup

    BB Bench 135x20,185x12,225x5,225x4,205x 8
    Incline DB Bench 85x6,80x4,70x5(SS) (These Sucked)
    Vbar Tri Press 140x15,140x10,140x10 (SS)
    Overhead Rope Press 140x12,140x10,140x10
    Pec Dec 160x8 (These killed my arm so I stopped after the one set)
    Low Pulley Cable fly 45x8,45x8
    Mid Pulley Cable Fly 45x8,45x8

    Hanging Leg Raises 30,15
    Ab Scissor 100


    Overall my arm is still really limiting me. Pressing is tough because if it flares I will literally drop what I'm holding as my grip gives out. Curling and pulling though is the most painful. Need to get to my chiro. I definitely had weakness in the arm on those Inclines. Supersetting took something out of me but still shouldn't have strained with those weights.

    Tonight I'm going to switch to legs and shoulders. Hopefully shoulder presses will work. I don't think any raise movements will be possible though.

    Supplement Notes:


    Forma: Still doing it's thing. Tightening up nicely. Feeling great.

    Creatine Nitrate: Finally got that chest pump I was looking for last night. Crazy pump! However, I'm not sure this is the case but it felt like I fatigued rapidly after that pump started. Could not be related but I'm going to keep an eye on it.

    Sustain: What's to say. It works. Got a full pair for sure.

    Protocol: I'm not really seeing improved recovery as of yet. Hopefully this improves.

    Slin Sane: Only been a week which IMO is too early to tell with these supps. Usually at about 3-4 weeks is where this becomes noticeable.

    DAA: Hard to say so far.

    Mesomorph: Same as usual. I continue to have a GI issue with this stuff though. I have no idea why but 30 mins after dosing I'm on the toilet. It's like clockwork. Never had this with a preworkout.
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    Morning Supps:

    8 pumps Forma
    5 pumps SA
    2 Forged Joint
    3D Multi
    2,000 Ius Vit D
    1 Scoop Protocol
    1 Slin Sane

    Preworkout Supps.

    8 pumps Formastanz
    6 CN
    1 Scoop Meso
    3g DAA
    Forged Joint Repair

    Intra: 10g bcaa's

    Post: **** Muscle Replenisher/Protocol. 2 CN.



    10 Min elliptical Warmup

    Leg Press 240x20,330x12,420x8,510x6,510x 6 (SS)
    Split Squats 35'sx8x3 (SS) God that combo hurts!
    Stiff Leg Deads 135x15,185x10,185x10 First in a long time. Felt great.
    Seated Calf Raises 90x15,140x15,140x15

    Reverse Pec Deck 130x15,130x12,130x12
    Lat Raise Machine 160x6,140x10,140x10


    Arm still hurting but getting better. Didn't really need to use it too much tonight and I've got 2 rest days so hopefully by Friday it will be much better.

    Supplement Notes:

    Forma: I just can't get over how easy that stuff goes in your skin.

    Creatine Nitrate: Not as much of a pump as I expected. Might up it to 8 caps pre on Friday.

    Sustain: I hate the smell of this stuff. Always have.

    Protocol: This will be a good test. Last week my legs hurt ALL WEEK.

    Slin Sane: Still dosing prior to 3 meals about 15 mins prior.

    DAA: Hard to say so far.x2

    Mesomorph: Same as usual. I'm able to use the full scoop with NO issues at this point. Think I'm building a little bit of a tolerance. Friday I will try my sample of Maximize V2 by IForce.
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    Morning Supps:

    4 pumps Forma
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    3D Multi
    2,000 Ius Vit D
    1 Scoop Protocol
    1 Slin Sane

    Preworkout Supps.

    4 pumps Formastanz
    6 CN
    1 Scoop Meso
    3g DAA
    Forged Joint Repair

    Intra: 10g bcaa's

    Post: **** Muscle Replenisher/Protocol. 2 CN.



    Elliptical Intervals

    2 Min moderate
    1 Min Sprint
    1 Min Moderate
    1 Min Sprint
    1 Min Moderate
    30 sec Sprint
    1 Min Moderate
    30 sec sprint
    30 sec Moderate
    30 sec sprint

    Circuit:

    Leg Ext, Leg Curl, Leg press, calf raise, chest press, shoulder press, lat raise machine,pulldowns, machine row.

    Did this one 2x with about a 2 min rest in between.

    DB Shrugs 90x10,90x10,90x10
    Hanging Leg Raises 20, 6 w/20lbs, 15 no weight

    Supplement Notes:

    Forma: Getting low so I'm tapering down to 4 pumps twice a day.

    Creatine Nitrate: Seems fairly comparable to ancient strength thus far to me. The pump may be a little better.

    Sustain: Still dosing 5 pumps. Dosing 5 on 2 off.

    Protocol: I'm beginning to see better recovery I believe. Soreness is less and not lasting as long.

    Slin Sane: Still dosing before carb meals. Sometimes 2 pills if it's a lot like my cheat pancakes for dinner last night. Hoping to see some improvement next week which is week 3.

    DAA: 5 days straight I've been woken by random wood.

    Mesomorph: I've been adding my DAA to this. Solid preworkout. I don't really care for the taste but it goes down just fine.


    Switched to the full body circuit due to the arm limiting me. Seems to be a bicep tendon strain. So, pulling is a no no. See how the weekend treats it.
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    Some great updates!

    Sorry to hear about the bicep strain, I hope it starts feeling better. I love full body circuits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    Some great updates!

    Sorry to hear about the bicep strain, I hope it starts feeling better. I love full body circuits.
    Thanks bro. It's getting better. Hopefully by next week it will be o.k.

    I've been wanting to add in full body circuits for some time. I think for the next month I'm going to just add them in on Fridays and keep my normal split the rest of the week. Kind of a nice change up and the gym is dead Friday's so it's easy to do a circuit.
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    My arm was KILLING me today. Made a chiro appt for Wednesday. Hopefully he can help out. Left side felt weak through everything. Surprisingly the cable flies don't bother it. Got a nice pump from that.

    Supplement Notes:

    Forma: Getting low so I'm tapering down to 4 pumps twice a day.

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    Protocol: I'm beginning to see better recovery I believe. Soreness is less and not lasting as long.

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    DAA: No GI issues as some have reported. Seems to be working extremely well. Iron desire and performance lately.

    Mesomorph: I've been adding my DAA to this. Solid preworkout. I don't really care for the taste but it goes down just fine.
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    Damn that sucks about the arm brotha, again injuries suck!

    Damn 1 scoop of Meso + 8 caps of CN? I've tried going a little high with CN and I found the pump was less, I got the best results with 1 scoop of Meso with 4 caps of CN pre-workout and 2 caps Post-workout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    Damn that sucks about the arm brotha, again injuries suck!

    Damn 1 scoop of Meso + 8 caps of CN? I've tried going a little high with CN and I found the pump was less, I got the best results with 1 scoop of Meso with 4 caps of CN pre-workout and 2 caps Post-workout.

    I really liked Sustain alpha topical, havn't tried the LV tho, ever try out the LV?
    I've tried 4,6 and 8 prior. 8 seems to give me the best pump. 6 is comparable with what I get from Ancient Strength. I've seemingly adjusted to the stim in Meso because the 1 scoop isn't bothering me at all anymore. Just a nice drive and energy.

    This injury is over 20 years old too. I've got a bent bone in my left forearm. Hurts like a motherF**** when it acts up. Sort of like having someone stand on your forearm all day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    I've tried 4,6 and 8 prior. 8 seems to give me the best pump. 6 is comparable with what I get from Ancient Strength. I've seemingly adjusted to the stim in Meso because the 1 scoop isn't bothering me at all anymore. Just a nice drive and energy.

    This injury is over 20 years old too. I've got a bent bone in my left forearm. Hurts like a motherF**** when it acts up. Sort of like having someone stand on your forearm all day.
    Damn thats a bummer to have to deal with that for the last 20 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    Damn thats a bummer to have to deal with that for the last 20 years.
    Eh, **** happens. You get over it. Doctors told me at 14 that I would never be able to lift weights again. **** that! Hahaha!
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    Leg Press sledx15, 240x10,330x10,420x10,510x8,510 x8
    Bulgarian Split Squats 35x10,35x10,35x10 SS with last three sets of LP
    Stiff Leg Deads 185x10,185x10,185x10 Could go heavier but worried about my back

    Hanging Leg Raises 15lbsx15,15lbsx10,15lbsx6 drop weight x6
    Seated Calf Raise 90x17,110x15,110x15
    Weighted Abs 50x15,50x15
    Ball Crunches 15,20
    Planks Flat 1 min
    Sides 1 min each



    Arm still not good. Head to the chiro after work tomorrow and 2 rest days coming. Legs were insanely pumped! My quads felt like balloons.

    Supplement Notes:

    Forma: Almost out. May last the week.

    Creatine Nitrate: Pumps are getting better. Liking 8 preworkout.

    Sustain: Still smells like **** and it's slimy.

    Protocol: Really starting to like this stuff.

    Slin Sane: Still dosing before carb meals. Hoping to see some improvement this week which is week 3.

    DAA: I think I'm in love with DAA.

    Mesomorph: Getting low but I've got a bunch of samples which I may run. I think I got the new flavor today with my Testalensis because it's a different color. Can't wait to try that because I really don't like the taste of this stuff much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
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    4 pumps Formastanz
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    1 Scoop Meso
    3g DAA
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    Intra: 10g bcaa's

    Post: **** Muscle Replenisher/Protocol.


    10 Min Elliptical Warmup

    Leg Press sledx15, 240x10,330x10,420x10,510x8,510 x8
    Bulgarian Split Squats 35x10,35x10,35x10 SS with last three sets of LP
    Stiff Leg Deads 185x10,185x10,185x10 Could go heavier but worried about my back

    Hanging Leg Raises 15lbsx15,15lbsx10,15lbsx6 drop weight x6
    Seated Calf Raise 90x17,110x15,110x15
    Weighted Abs 50x15,50x15
    Ball Crunches 15,20
    Planks Flat 1 min
    Sides 1 min each



    Arm still not good. Head to the chiro after work tomorrow and 2 rest days coming. Legs were insanely pumped! My quads felt like balloons.

    Supplement Notes:

    Forma: Almost out. May last the week.

    Creatine Nitrate: Pumps are getting better. Liking 8 preworkout.

    Sustain: Still smells like **** and it's slimy.

    Protocol: Really starting to like this stuff.

    Slin Sane: Still dosing before carb meals. Hoping to see some improvement this week which is week 3.

    DAA: I think I'm in love with DAA.

    Mesomorph: Getting low but I've got a bunch of samples which I may run. I think I got the new flavor today with my Testalensis because it's a different color. Can't wait to try that because I really don't like the taste of this stuff much.

    Surprised you don't like the taste of Meso, I love the taste, but I am told Watermelon is the best tasting, not only by APS but bigT, Sweetlou and a couple others that tried it, hope you love the Watermelon, I know I can't wait to try it
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    Surprised you don't like the taste of Meso, I love the taste, but I am told Watermelon is the best tasting, not only by APS but bigT, Sweetlou and a couple others that tried it, hope you love the Watermelon, I know I can't wait to try it
    Kinda hard to mask the flavor of the creatine nitrate. I got my hands on the bulk and jesus...very very sour/ salty taste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beni182 View Post
    Kinda hard to mask the flavor of the creatine nitrate. I got my hands on the bulk and jesus...very very sour/ salty taste.
    Maybe that's what it is. It's kind of gritty and yeah I would almost say "salty". Kind of odd. Nothing that would stop me from drinking it. These things all used to taste like hell. Now they're all pretty good. It's just that some taste better than others. I'm in love with grape N2KTS right now so that's sort of my standard for flavor. The meso actually reminds me of the original N2KTS taste. Which was...palatable. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    Maybe that's what it is. It's kind of gritty and yeah I would almost say "salty". Kind of odd. Nothing that would stop me from drinking it. These things all used to taste like hell. Now they're all pretty good. It's just that some taste better than others. I'm in love with grape N2KTS right now so that's sort of my standard for flavor. The meso actually reminds me of the original N2KTS taste. Which was...palatable. LOL
    I liked the taste if the old n2kts when mixed with purple wraath, when mixing the 2 it tasted great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    Maybe that's what it is. It's kind of gritty and yeah I would almost say "salty". Kind of odd. Nothing that would stop me from drinking it. These things all used to taste like hell. Now they're all pretty good. It's just that some taste better than others. I'm in love with grape N2KTS right now so that's sort of my standard for flavor. The meso actually reminds me of the original N2KTS taste. Which was...palatable. LOL
    geez, i opened up the caps of creatine nitrate and poured them into my meso. i liked it, lol. damn, i am really starting to miss creatine nitrate!


    BTW- I THINK THE WATERMELON IS A STEP UP FLAVOR WISE-that was for you jd, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    geez, i opened up the caps of creatine nitrate and poured them into my meso. i liked it, lol. damn, i am really starting to miss creatine nitrate!


    BTW- I THINK THE WATERMELON IS A STEP UP FLAVOR WISE-that was for you jd, lol.
    Yeah but you're old taste buds are fried. LOL. It's not BAD! I'm just saying it's not my favorite. I'm not all that picky about it really. I'll put anything down if it works. If I could get Dermacrine LV past my tongue just about anything should taste good. LOL.
  

  
 

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