My Erase / Alpha T2 Cycle
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11-02-2010 08:31 PM
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got a total of 3/3 erase/AT2 today and to add still getting my IGF-2 in. Example of todays workout below. I still dont feel much working but i know its early still.
tonight I took the MMA class, strength and conditioning. WOW,...intense! Havent felt like this since the days with the trainer. Lots of core, and lower body stuff. I will note what I can below.
Cardio:
Some stretching.
2 mins rounds of jump rope with 30 secs rest in between, 5 rounds.
Walking lunges, twice around area, about 3 mins., did this again a few mins later.
Wall squats, I was holding a 10 lb medicine ball, held for 45 secs each, 10 secs rest, done 3x.
Duck walks front and back, then done backwards, prob took a few mins for all.
as many situps as u could for 30 secs, into as many pushups for 30 secs then 20 secs rest, repeat x3
Partner up and lock legs, both do a situp and when u come up pass off medicine ball. Done for like 1 mins with 30 sec rest, 2-3 times.
Took approx 50 mins, 750 cals burnt. Will check heart rate monitor tomorrow.
Macros:
Cals: 2253.7
Protein: 226.9 - 40.3%
Carbs: 166.2 - 29.5%
Fats: 75.7 - 30.2%
Lil low on what I like for protein. 2200 cals is the lowest I wanna go atm. Ideally I like cutting around 2500 if i get some cardio in so will eat more today.
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11-02-2010 09:02 PM
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well i live 4hours away from my girlfriend because im playing junior hockey away from home so when i do see my girlfriend its on you know? so my libido is fine i would say haha.
tjwoody: are you suggesting i take the oep and the at2 at separate times for the first couple days? say oep at 430am then take my at2 at like 5am? or are you suggesting i take oep and at2 at the same time but space out my am and pm doses?
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11-03-2010 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by
eric fragoso
well i live 4hours away from my girlfriend because im playing junior hockey away from home so when i do see my girlfriend its on you know? so my libido is fine i would say haha.
tjwoody: are you suggesting i take the oep and the at2 at separate times for the first couple days? say oep at 430am then take my at2 at like 5am? or are you suggesting i take oep and at2 at the same time but space out my am and pm doses?
oep is also a 3 per day right? me, i would try a 430 am AT2, 630 OEP or vice versa....then ur PM.
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11-03-2010 07:06 AM
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11/3/10 - Try to see if I can structure this a bit better. Will update throughout day or at night.
Doses:
545 am:
2/2 erase/at2
4 IGF-2
2pm:
1/1 erase/AT2
bedtime (930ish) 4 igf-2
Macros:
Cals: 2510.7
Pro: 242.5 - 28.6%
Carbs: 183.8 - 29.3%
Fats: 89.5 - 32.1%
*Good #s. Would have liked 200g carbs.
Workout:
Today was legs/calves/cardio.
Bike WU, 3 mins
Legs:
Free weight leg press: WUx3, 495x15, 585x12, 635x10, 685x6, 595x10 (legs in more this time)
Smith Squats: Wux1, 185x16, 225x14, 275x10, 315x7
Db squats: 50sx15, 55sx12x10 *touched butt to a bench.
Seated leg curl: 115x16, 130x12, 135x10, 140x9
Leg Ext: 150x12, 160x11.
Calves:
rotary calf machine: Wux1, 160x18 (neutral), 175x16 (toes out), 175x14 (toes in), then quick 10 sec rest and 175x10 (neutral)
1 hr 15 mins....lil short on time today.
Cardio:
26 mins walking at lunch est cals 100
5 min walking CD on treadmill after weights.
Macros:
TBD...sitting at 1900 right now and still need dinner...thinking CC with whey and PB...yum!
Thoughts:
Started real sore with legs from yesterdays conditioning class. Think I will need to figure out a static split where I do same body part on each day of week when I figure out MMA class schedule. Right now conditioning is on Tuesday nights so its a day off from weights and boxing is Thursday nights but tomorrow gonna do chest and tris before class and see how it goes.
Misc:
I got some slin-slan I am gonna add to check it out. Tired slin slan today 15 mins before preworkout meal. dont know if i felt anything yet.
Thoughts:
Last nights workout...wow im feeling tired! May need to add a black cat or 2 today! yes, did have BC..hehe.
Tomorrow I got chest/tris with an hour break in between then a boxing class for an hour...should be interesting to say the least!
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11-03-2010 11:02 AM
The Female Terminator
Originally Posted by
tjwoody
11/3/10 - Try to see if I can structure this a bit better. Will update throughout day or at night.
Doses:
545 am:
2/2 erase/at2
4 IGF-2
So you train at night?
I recommend changing your IGF-2 dosing/timing re your training times:
Train first thing
Dose 1 - 4 caps first thing
Dose 2 - 4 caps pre-bed
Train any other time but first thing
Dose 1 - 3 caps first thing
Dose 2 - 3 caps ~40 min pre-training
Dose 3 - 2 caps pre-bed
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11-03-2010 05:03 PM
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i have a job interview coming up and i might have to take a drug test... would the at2 or oep have something in it that would make me fail a drug test?
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11-03-2010 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by
eric fragoso
i have a job interview coming up and i might have to take a drug test... would the at2 or oep have something in it that would make me fail a drug test?
im not sure.
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11-03-2010 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
Rosie Chee Scott
So you train at night?
I recommend changing your IGF-2 dosing/timing re your training times:
Train first thing
Dose 1 - 4 caps first thing
Dose 2 - 4 caps pre-bed
Train any other time but first thing
Dose 1 - 3 caps first thing
Dose 2 - 3 caps ~40 min pre-training
Dose 3 - 2 caps pre-bed
Yes at night. Weight lifting is usually about 445 pm for hr-hr 20 mins depending. i take a pre workout too about 30-40 mins before workouts and an intra during...any issue stacking igf-2 with it. My preworkout meal is usually 2 hours before the weights.
I also started taking MMA type classes so will try the dose #2 about 40 mins pre it too. the conditioning class last night was rough and I will need all the recovery I can get! 
Thx rosie!!!
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11-03-2010 05:43 PM
Sponsor
Originally Posted by
eric fragoso
i have a job interview coming up and i might have to take a drug test... would the at2 or oep have something in it that would make me fail a drug test?
No, nothing in either will cause a positive test. Only WADA or NCAA test for any of the stimulants in either.
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11-03-2010 07:18 PM
The Female Terminator
Originally Posted by
tjwoody
Yes at night. Weight lifting is usually about 445 pm for hr-hr 20 mins depending. i take a pre workout too about 30-40 mins before workouts and an intra during...any issue stacking igf-2 with it. My preworkout meal is usually 2 hours before the weights.
I also started taking MMA type classes so will try the dose #2 about 40 mins pre it too. the conditioning class last night was rough and I will need all the recovery I can get!
Thx rosie!!!
You forget that IGF-2 contains Banaba Extract in it, so is no issues really having ~90 minutes after a meal, and no issues stacking it with preworkout or intrawokout products.
If you train close to when you go to bed, then you could just stick with the first thing and pre-bed dosing.
If you do MMA at a different time to your resistance training, like in the morning or afternoon, then you could dose before that if you use three doses that day.
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11-03-2010 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by
Rosie Chee Scott
You forget that IGF-2 contains Banaba Extract in it, so is no issues really having ~90 minutes after a meal, and no issues stacking it with preworkout or intrawokout products.
If you train close to when you go to bed, then you could just stick with the first thing and pre-bed dosing.
If you do MMA at a different time to your resistance training, like in the morning or afternoon, then you could dose before that if you use three doses that day.
I try to be in bed about 10 pm...done weights around 620ish. MMA classes are about 7PM so most days right after weight.
Your dose scheme does sound interesting! think I will try it for sure! I will erase/at2, 30 mins before meal which is like 3pm. then when i get home before gym I could do an IGF-2 dose like 430 which would be around 15-30 mins before i actually start lifting.
thx again Rosie!
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11-04-2010 07:01 AM
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11/4/10
Doses:
545am
2/2 erase/AT2
3 IGF-2 *changing to new dosing scheme today per Rosie.
I also take a multi, extra vit D, c, e, fish oil and fiber...FYI
215ish:
1/1 Erase/AT2
Ate about 240
420ish had 3 igf-2 with superpump max
Weights was 445, boxing cardio 710ish
and took 2 igf-2 before bed, 90s mins after last meal.
Macros:
Cals: 2843.5
Pro: 283
Carbs: 204
Fats: 99.5
Cals lil higher then what I wanted but lots of cardio today. My workouts burnt a total of 1308 cals! Guess see if my weight does anything. Tomorrow shooting for 2200 cals for a low day.
Workout:
Today was chest/tris/cardio
Warmups.
Chest:
Incline BB press: Wux3, 185x12, 205x7, 225x5, 235x4, 225x5
Flat BB press: 135x12, 185x9x8x8
Narrow grip press: 135x9, 155x6, 135x8 *mixed in this tri work to save some time.
Incline DB press superset w/ incline flys (low incline) 60sx14 SS 40sx10, 60sx12 SS 40sx9, 60sx11 SS 35sx10
Dips: BWx12x9x8
Tris:
Vbar press downs: WUx1, 80x10x9x9
Reverse straight bar press down: 40x20, 50x14
1 hr 10 mins, 757 cals...had to rush out.
Cardio:
58 mins of boxing, avg hbpm was 139, max 176, cals burnt 551.
-Started with 8 rounds of jump rope, 2 mins per round, 30 sec rest.
-Then I did drills, learning foot work.
-Hitting the bag
-Shadow boxing
-putting it all together; blocks, foot work, punches, learning to keep hands up and position.
Thoughts:
Got 7.5 hours of sleep, in bed prob for 8.5 hours. Did wake up couple times. Felt sorta restless around midnight when I woke up first time. Like back felt pumped or needed a good stretch or something. Still a lil tired I guess.
Trying to see if erase/Alpha-T2 is doing anything.
Supps:
Should add I sorta take a lot of other stuff....started checking out slin slan also, 15 mins before preworkout meals and tried 1 last night before bed. I also take Xtend and Intrain now. Xtend I think im going to use during day and nights while I eat low cals and during my MMA/boxing/Cardio classes.
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11-05-2010 01:43 PM
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11/5/10
Doses
545am
2/2 erase/AT2
3 IGF-2 *changing to new dosing scheme today per Rosie.
I also take a multi, extra vit D, c, e, fish oil and fiber...FYI
230ish:
1/1 Erase/AT2
415:
had 3 igf-2 with my superpump max
445 worked out
bed time which was like 10pm ish i had igf-2, with zma, gaba and a melatonin.
Macros:
Light day, plan is 2200 cals, 125g carbs ... lil higher then thought...need to add up food log still.
Workout:
Back/bis...blew off cardio, spent xtra time lifting!
Warmups, 5-10 mins
back:
Pullups - wide: WUx2, BWx8x6x6
Chinups: BWx10x8x7
Seated pulldowns: 130x12, 140x10
Seated chinups:150x8, 160x6
Low Pulley rows: 130x14, 140x10, 150x6, 120x14
DB Row: 60x12x11x11
Cybex hyper: 150x16, 170x14
Hypers: +25x12x10
5 mins break
Biceps:
Alt Db curls: Wux1, 45x11, 50x8, 55x7
Hammer curls: 40x10
Preacher curls: (outer grip) 65x13, 75x9, (Inner grip) 75x8
bent over conc curls: 25x14, 27.5x10, Superset 30x8 with 20x5
21s: 1 set using 25s
1 hr 40 mins or so.... 1011 cals
Took a bit of time and worked lower back on hypers today.
Thoughts/Feelings:
Lil tired from long workout day yesterday.....HUNGRY too. I may try to move my pre workout meal to 3pm cause I guess some days I cant workout till 5pm.
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11-06-2010 06:59 AM
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Doses:
745am
3 igf-2
8am ish:
SB 2/2 erase/AT2.
Workout:
Not sure yet, supp to do delts....not sure about doing MMA yet. Prob stick with the boxing and conditioning class only for a bit to get my body used to it.
Macros:
Sat is a higher day, usually with a cheat which I need to get under control.
Thoughts:
Got a weekly weigh in soon....
Lil tired. Usually when I stack my sleep stack takes me a bit to wake up fully next day.
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11-06-2010 01:25 PM
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Posting my weight update in its own post. Weight 197.5 lbs which is up 1 lb over last week. Gotta pay extra attention how I feel in the mid section this upcoming week. My macros shoulda been pretty much on all week. Prob time to take measurements soon.
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11-08-2010 05:11 AM
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Quick update:
Still taking my doses.
Did a delts/traps/cardio workout on Sat and enjoyed the meals a bit. Going to be doing a weigh in shortly.
After this week, gonna be eating at maint. then a bit above maint for several weeks. Diet break finally and want to see if I can add any more muscle before Jan cut.
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11-09-2010 04:44 AM
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Well...tweaked back yesterday in gym. I may stop doing squats for a while and stick to lunges, presses, ext, leg curls, ext and maybe DB squats, bulgarian type squats for a while.
Doses:
545 am:
2/2 erase/at2
2pm:
1/1 erase/AT2
Workout
Bike WU 5 mins.
Legs:
Smith machine Squats: WUx2, 185x16, 225x14, 245x12x12
Free weight leg press: WUx1, 495x14, 585x12x10, 495x12 last set i moved feet closer
I did supersets of seated leg curls and leg ext: 115x15 SS 150x14, 125x15 SS 160x14, 130x11 SS 170x10, 135x8 SS 180x8
Calves:
Rotary calf machine: WUx1, singles superset (switched feet asap) 85x16x12. Doubles; (toes neutral) 160x16, (toes out) 160x15, (toes in) 160x14.
1 hr, 640 cals.
Cardio:
more like a cool down, back was bugging me bad at this time, 6 mins easy walking. 42 cals.
Did 8 mins on chair massage for back.
Took some ibuprophen, applied heat on back and some extra fish oil...heres to hoping!
macro:
Sb around 2100, 90 carbs, 249 protein, 89 fats...pretty sure. Light day.
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11-10-2010 06:03 PM
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11-10-2010 06:54 PM
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I did sneak a workout in!
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11-10-2010 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by
tjwoody
I did sneak a workout in!
so, hows the back?
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