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  1. Quote Originally Posted by tjwoody View Post
    I need to look into LDL more cause I dont drink or party, diet is pretty spot on, and I exercise a lot. Thx.
    LDL can be affected by causes other than nutrition and training, including but not limited to:
    *Chronic or high stress
    * Hereditary factors
    * Smoking
    If it's indeed the case that your nutrition is clean and good, and you train hard and intense, then chances are it could be any of those things.
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  2. LDL is usually calculated, not measured so there is a possibilty the results could be wrong. The formula they use is.. "Total - (HDL + [Trigs/5]) = LDL." They do this because LDL are so small in comparison to the other particles. If you drop below 100 trigs this equation will miscalculate you LDL. Triglycerides are the fat made in the liver from the carbs you eat. If you restrict carbs in your diet you will probably have very low triglycerides, which means you are going to have problems if the lab uses the Friedewald equation to calculate your LDL levels. I don;t know what your diet really looks like or if this is a valid explanation that would apply to your situation but either way you can go and ask for a VAP test with LDL particle size as part of the measurement, this will give you a direct measurement of your LDL.

    Best of luck bud
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  3. thx for the info u guys/gals. i do got a good amount of stress right now. guess i will keep an eye on it for now.

    i felt pretty pumped in the gym today...i am checking out superpump max also.

    Erase/AT2 dosage:
    Did 1/1 at 545 am - then grab shower and eat.
    Next 1/1 about 9am - got stuck eating a lil later here, 10ish.
    3rd 1/1 like 230 - ate at 3pm for pre workout meal

    *any difference in way im doing it compared to taking the 2/2 first thing in AM then the 1/1 in PM. i am just working on getting the 2 in the AM together soon.


    Lil update/example from today:

    back/bis/cardio.

    Some WUs

    Back:
    Pullups - wide: WUx2, BWx8x5, -50x8
    Chinups: BWx8x6-50x8
    Seated pull downs with Vbar: 120x15, 160x7, 120x14
    Seated pulley rows: 120x15, 150x7, 120x15, 160x5, 130x12
    Db rows: 60x14x12x12

    BIs:
    Straightbar curls: WUx1, 85x11, 95x9, 105x6, 85x11 (1-2 cheats)
    Hammer curls: 40x9, 35x10
    Alt DB curl: 45x9
    21s: 1 set with 25s

    1 hr 10 mins, approx 700 cals.

    Felt really pumped today for some reason. Is it the erase/AT2 and/or superpump max. We will see.

    Cardio
    13 mins stepper, moderate avg HBPM 138, 132 cals.

    Forgot to do hypers, but least did a set yesterday.

    Macros:
    Looking like 2491, will update when I got log in front of me.

    Going to keep 2 days off per week from weights but repeat. So this week gonna try:

    Sunday: Stretch, Core, cardio day, This is optional off day too.
    Monday: Back, bis.
    Tuesday: Delts/trap
    Wed: stretch, Core, cardio day.
    thursday: Legs/calves
    Friday: Chest, tris
    Sat: (repeats) Back, bis. *if tired will reduce volume.

  4. Took 1/1 erase/AT2 about 545 am, then 1/1 about 830 am and last 1/1 about 2 pm. Tomorrow gonna try 2/2 in morning...or I may do like 2/1 Lol.

    I feel my body is on the edge of good things if I can just buckle down a bit more. Diet is prob 85% dialed in. Monday through Friday I'd say is 100%, Sat and Sunday depends. I plan on 2 cheats on weekends but prob eating a bit to much at times so will continue working on thisw.

    Example of todays workout below.

    Today was delts/traps/cardio:

    Warmups

    Delts:
    Smith behind neck press: Wux3, 185x9, 205x7, 224x4, 235x2, 185x8
    DB press: 55x14, 60x11x10
    Tri set; front plate laterals, side Db laterals, front DB laterals: 45x15 SS 20x10 SS 15x15 (alt), 45x12 SS 20x8 SS 15x12 (alt), 45x12, 17.5x8, 10 lb plates x16 (alt)
    Facepulls: 80x15, 90x11, 80x12

    Traps:
    Cable upright rows: 100x12, 110x10
    Smith machine shrugs: WUx1, 225x20, 275x12, 295x8, 245x12

    1 hr 10 mins... cals burnt....? Think 725

    Cardio: 22 mins on stepper, some high intensity avg hbpm 144, 255 cals burnt


    Macros:
    Cals: 2681.9 - 40.9%
    Carbs: 201.5 - 30%
    Fats: 86.7% - 29.1%

    Thoughts:
    Felt good today, PR on behind neck press I think at 235 lbs.

  5. 1st day doing 2/2 Erase and AT2! I may have a slight headache. Gonna try sucking down some water. Will be doing 2/2 in AM and 1/1 in PM....did the PM 1/1 at 2pm as planned.

    So far I noticed the water weight from the weekend just poured outta me! I was...ummmm 203.5 Monday morning and this morning already back down to 197.5 lbs. Which is the lightest I have been in gawd....years. haha.

    Did some core and easy cardio today.

    macros:
    Looking like about 2500 cals atm. Will calculate tomorrow.

    Thoughts:

    I've wanted to try out MMA again for sometime and was a goal of mine when I first started working on losing weight from 280 lbs. I feel pretty good, but I am older now so not sure how much I will be able to get into it. Try to get my son into it too. Hes not very aggressive at all so this may be something he could use!
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  6. Thinking of try EC with this stack on Monday. Could use appetite suppression for like 3ish weeks. Thoughts from anyone? Curious when I should does along with this stack.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by tjwoody View Post
    Thinking of try EC with this stack on Monday. Could use appetite suppression for like 3ish weeks. Thoughts from anyone? Curious when I should does along with this stack.
    Stacking EC with Erase/Alpha-T2 would work pretty well for fat loss. Not sure about appetite suppression - neither E or C in high doses (used together, but not stacked 'traditionally') elicits any appetite suppression in me - but hey, everyone is different, so maybe it might in you.
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  8. Think I am gonna try the EC starting today. I will prob stagger it with Erase and AT2 a bit. It helped me not eat as much last time. (thx rosie!)


    Got 2/2 this morning. Feeling ok....def gives me a lil energy kick.


    I ate a bit much last night dinner (cals still 2500) so weight at 199 lbs. Just came back from some easy cardio and my body said feed me! Had to fight it off a bit. See if I can lose the water weight for tomorrow. Had a goal of 196.5 lbs for this weekend! Esp with Halloween weekend! argh!


    Legs and calves on the agenda today. prob skip cardio, or just 15 mins walking.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by tjwoody View Post
    Think I am gonna try the EC starting today. I will prob stagger it with Erase and AT2 a bit. It helped me not eat as much last time. (thx rosie!)
    No worries, bud Will be watching.
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  10. today so far took 2/2 erase/AT2 about 545 am. At 1 pm i took a black and about 130 pm here I am taking the other 1/1 then eating pre workout meal at 2pm.

    today is chest and tris...but going to try some superset or this QBM from ergogenix. not sure yet. I may work on going real heavy on BB presses and superset with DB presses instead.

    I checked out a MMA place yesterday....very excited should be awesome for conditioning. They got a couple strength and conditioning classes, judo, bjj, mma and boxing. looks great and a good price! This was a goal of mine last year...wanted to be able to take some sort of MMA. I hope being over 80 lbs lighter I can now do it!

    Here is what I did yesterday:

    legs/calves

    4 mins bike.

    Legs:
    Free weight leg press: WUx2, 495x15, 585x11, 675x6x6, 585x10
    Smith machine squat: WUx1, 185x15, 225x12, 275x10, 315x6
    Seated leg curl: 120x16, 130x12, 140x10, 150x9
    Leg ext: 150x14, 160x12, 170x10

    calves:
    Rotary calf machine: Wux1, single leg; 70x16, 85x15, 100x14, double leg toes out, 175x16, toes in, 175x15

    1 hr 10 mins, 750 cals burnt

    No cardio today.

    Macros:
    Cals: 2288.3
    pro: 226.9 - 39.6%
    carbs: 179.8 - 31.44%
    fats: 73.5 - 29%

    Carbs lil bit higher then what i wanted

  11. Not a ton to update from past weekend, still dosing 3 per day of each. Halloween weekend did me in diet wise so will be doing damage control this week.

    I am going to reduce cals a bit to about 2200 for approx 2 weeks and see where it gets me.

  12. Got my 3/3 Erase/AT2 in yesterday. Waiting for something to kick in...if anything does or will. Also been taking my IGF-2 in AM and PM...totaling 8 per day.

    This past weekend I had a good amount of halloween candy....boooo. lol. Gotta get back down to the lbs I was ate before the big cheat weekend.

    Below workout and macros from yesterday. Went lower on cals/carbs to shed some water.

    Today was delts, traps, cardio.

    Warmups - 5 mins

    Delts:
    Smith machine, behind neck press: Wux3, 185x9, 205x6, 225x4, 185x7
    DB press: 60sx14x11
    Front plate laterals SS w/ side DB laterals: 45x16 SS 20x12, 45x15 SS 20x10, 45x15 SS 17.5sx12
    Face pulls: 80x16, 90x10, 80x12, 70x12

    Traps:
    Smith machine shrugs: WUx2, 225x20, 275x10x10, 225x16
    DB shrugs: 60sx35x30

    1 hr, 680 cals

    Cardio:
    walking @ lunch, 25 mins, est cals 100
    walking treadmill, incline avg 2.6 mpg, incline, 189 cals.

    Macros:
    Cals: 2362.1
    Protein: 267 - 45.2%
    Carbs: 120.8 - 20.5%
    Fats: 90.1% - 34.3%

    Good lower day. Gonna be tough trying to get carbs under 100g.

    thoughts:
    Delts feeling good. Got some cardio stuff tomorrow at MMA, condition for an hour! Looking forward to it!

  13. hey im new to all this supplement stuff and i havnt herd a lot about this at2 so i just have a few questions about starting a stack with oep. i started 3 weeks ago with just oep, first two days taking one in the am then one in the pm. now im taking two in the am and one in the pm. and honestly i must be very insensitive to stims because i dont feel to much of a difference.... so i decided to order the at2/oep stack. it came in mail this morning and i plan on taking it tomorrow so i was just wondering if i should take 1-at2 and one-oep in the am then one more of each in the pm... or should i continue to take 2 oep in the am and one in the pm but just ad one cap of at2 in the am and pm? or since im not stim sensitive should i just be a badass and take 2-at2 and 2-oep in the am followed by one of each in the pm? any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!!

  14. Any effects on your Libido?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by eric fragoso View Post
    hey im new to all this supplement stuff and i havnt herd a lot about this at2 so i just have a few questions about starting a stack with oep. i started 3 weeks ago with just oep, first two days taking one in the am then one in the pm. now im taking two in the am and one in the pm. and honestly i must be very insensitive to stims because i dont feel to much of a difference.... so i decided to order the at2/oep stack. it came in mail this morning and i plan on taking it tomorrow so i was just wondering if i should take 1-at2 and one-oep in the am then one more of each in the pm... or should i continue to take 2 oep in the am and one in the pm but just ad one cap of at2 in the am and pm? or since im not stim sensitive should i just be a badass and take 2-at2 and 2-oep in the am followed by one of each in the pm? any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!!
    myself...i like to slowly incorporate stuff into my regiment. I would suggest, seperating ur doses by a couple hours for a day or two and see how u feel. For my erase and AT2, i did this like 3-4 days slowly bring the AM dose of 2 and 2 together so I was taking them at same time...no issues so far. I wouldnt go over the dose on the bottles.

    I took OEP too, 1 bottle, mostly I feel it helped me not want to eat.

    Quote Originally Posted by vector18 View Post
    Any effects on your Libido?
    nothing i can tell. not sure if its supp to. i had a great "session" this morning and felt strong....sorry if to much info. I also still want it all the time.

  16. got a total of 3/3 erase/AT2 today and to add still getting my IGF-2 in. Example of todays workout below. I still dont feel much working but i know its early still.



    tonight I took the MMA class, strength and conditioning. WOW,...intense! Havent felt like this since the days with the trainer. Lots of core, and lower body stuff. I will note what I can below.

    Cardio:
    Some stretching.
    2 mins rounds of jump rope with 30 secs rest in between, 5 rounds.
    Walking lunges, twice around area, about 3 mins., did this again a few mins later.
    Wall squats, I was holding a 10 lb medicine ball, held for 45 secs each, 10 secs rest, done 3x.
    Duck walks front and back, then done backwards, prob took a few mins for all.
    as many situps as u could for 30 secs, into as many pushups for 30 secs then 20 secs rest, repeat x3
    Partner up and lock legs, both do a situp and when u come up pass off medicine ball. Done for like 1 mins with 30 sec rest, 2-3 times.

    Took approx 50 mins, 750 cals burnt. Will check heart rate monitor tomorrow.

    Macros:
    Cals: 2253.7
    Protein: 226.9 - 40.3%
    Carbs: 166.2 - 29.5%
    Fats: 75.7 - 30.2%

    Lil low on what I like for protein. 2200 cals is the lowest I wanna go atm. Ideally I like cutting around 2500 if i get some cardio in so will eat more today.

  17. well i live 4hours away from my girlfriend because im playing junior hockey away from home so when i do see my girlfriend its on you know? so my libido is fine i would say haha.

    tjwoody: are you suggesting i take the oep and the at2 at separate times for the first couple days? say oep at 430am then take my at2 at like 5am? or are you suggesting i take oep and at2 at the same time but space out my am and pm doses?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by eric fragoso View Post
    well i live 4hours away from my girlfriend because im playing junior hockey away from home so when i do see my girlfriend its on you know? so my libido is fine i would say haha.

    tjwoody: are you suggesting i take the oep and the at2 at separate times for the first couple days? say oep at 430am then take my at2 at like 5am? or are you suggesting i take oep and at2 at the same time but space out my am and pm doses?
    oep is also a 3 per day right? me, i would try a 430 am AT2, 630 OEP or vice versa....then ur PM.

  19. 11/3/10 - Try to see if I can structure this a bit better. Will update throughout day or at night.

    Doses:
    545 am:
    2/2 erase/at2
    4 IGF-2
    2pm:
    1/1 erase/AT2
    bedtime (930ish) 4 igf-2

    Macros:
    Cals: 2510.7
    Pro: 242.5 - 28.6%
    Carbs: 183.8 - 29.3%
    Fats: 89.5 - 32.1%

    *Good #s. Would have liked 200g carbs.
    Workout:
    Today was legs/calves/cardio.

    Bike WU, 3 mins

    Legs:
    Free weight leg press: WUx3, 495x15, 585x12, 635x10, 685x6, 595x10 (legs in more this time)
    Smith Squats: Wux1, 185x16, 225x14, 275x10, 315x7
    Db squats: 50sx15, 55sx12x10 *touched butt to a bench.
    Seated leg curl: 115x16, 130x12, 135x10, 140x9
    Leg Ext: 150x12, 160x11.

    Calves:
    rotary calf machine: Wux1, 160x18 (neutral), 175x16 (toes out), 175x14 (toes in), then quick 10 sec rest and 175x10 (neutral)

    1 hr 15 mins....lil short on time today.

    Cardio:
    26 mins walking at lunch est cals 100
    5 min walking CD on treadmill after weights.

    Macros:
    TBD...sitting at 1900 right now and still need dinner...thinking CC with whey and PB...yum!

    Thoughts:
    Started real sore with legs from yesterdays conditioning class. Think I will need to figure out a static split where I do same body part on each day of week when I figure out MMA class schedule. Right now conditioning is on Tuesday nights so its a day off from weights and boxing is Thursday nights but tomorrow gonna do chest and tris before class and see how it goes.

    Misc:
    I got some slin-slan I am gonna add to check it out. Tired slin slan today 15 mins before preworkout meal. dont know if i felt anything yet.

    Thoughts:
    Last nights workout...wow im feeling tired! May need to add a black cat or 2 today! yes, did have BC..hehe.

    Tomorrow I got chest/tris with an hour break in between then a boxing class for an hour...should be interesting to say the least!

  20. Quote Originally Posted by tjwoody View Post
    11/3/10 - Try to see if I can structure this a bit better. Will update throughout day or at night.

    Doses:
    545 am:
    2/2 erase/at2
    4 IGF-2
    So you train at night?

    I recommend changing your IGF-2 dosing/timing re your training times:

    Train first thing
    Dose 1 - 4 caps first thing
    Dose 2 - 4 caps pre-bed

    Train any other time but first thing
    Dose 1 - 3 caps first thing
    Dose 2 - 3 caps ~40 min pre-training
    Dose 3 - 2 caps pre-bed
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  21. i have a job interview coming up and i might have to take a drug test... would the at2 or oep have something in it that would make me fail a drug test?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by eric fragoso View Post
    i have a job interview coming up and i might have to take a drug test... would the at2 or oep have something in it that would make me fail a drug test?
    im not sure.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    So you train at night?

    I recommend changing your IGF-2 dosing/timing re your training times:

    Train first thing
    Dose 1 - 4 caps first thing
    Dose 2 - 4 caps pre-bed

    Train any other time but first thing
    Dose 1 - 3 caps first thing
    Dose 2 - 3 caps ~40 min pre-training
    Dose 3 - 2 caps pre-bed
    Yes at night. Weight lifting is usually about 445 pm for hr-hr 20 mins depending. i take a pre workout too about 30-40 mins before workouts and an intra during...any issue stacking igf-2 with it. My preworkout meal is usually 2 hours before the weights.

    I also started taking MMA type classes so will try the dose #2 about 40 mins pre it too. the conditioning class last night was rough and I will need all the recovery I can get!

    Thx rosie!!!

  24. Quote Originally Posted by eric fragoso View Post
    i have a job interview coming up and i might have to take a drug test... would the at2 or oep have something in it that would make me fail a drug test?
    No, nothing in either will cause a positive test. Only WADA or NCAA test for any of the stimulants in either.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by tjwoody View Post
    Yes at night. Weight lifting is usually about 445 pm for hr-hr 20 mins depending. i take a pre workout too about 30-40 mins before workouts and an intra during...any issue stacking igf-2 with it. My preworkout meal is usually 2 hours before the weights.

    I also started taking MMA type classes so will try the dose #2 about 40 mins pre it too. the conditioning class last night was rough and I will need all the recovery I can get!

    Thx rosie!!!
    You forget that IGF-2 contains Banaba Extract in it, so is no issues really having ~90 minutes after a meal, and no issues stacking it with preworkout or intrawokout products.

    If you train close to when you go to bed, then you could just stick with the first thing and pre-bed dosing.

    If you do MMA at a different time to your resistance training, like in the morning or afternoon, then you could dose before that if you use three doses that day.
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