Poops comeback log.... its stinky. (first cut ever)
- 09-25-2010, 09:39 PM
- 09-25-2010, 09:42 PM
09-25-2010, 09:43 PM
09-25-2010, 09:44 PM
synephrine and clen act on different beta receptors, 2 and 3 respectively, so you should be good to go in that aspect.
I believe if you have the product, utilize it to it's full capabilities. You can control your dose to whatever suits you.
PM me with any order questions and concerns
09-25-2010, 09:49 PM
awesome... thats exactly what i needed to hear.
I thought it was a beta 2 agonist but wasnt sure..... all i remembered was the reading i did in its comparison to ephedrine which essentially bombards most all the receptors indiscriminately and clen targeted only one beneficial one... just couldnt remember which.
09-25-2010, 09:49 PM
the key when coming off of t3/4 is to slowly ramp your cals back up...SLOWLY. diet should always be on point with these products but there are people who take advantage of the BMR increases. They get what they deserve when it comes to rebound.
PM me with any order questions and concerns
09-25-2010, 09:55 PM
09-25-2010, 09:58 PM
proper macros in their own rights are always a must for me in any normal condition once it comes time to get off this cut and build lean muscle... just right now trying to get as close to a keto diet as possible.... a full blown one just isnt possible for me though since I get hypo so damn easy...
09-25-2010, 11:20 PM
09-25-2010, 11:39 PM
welcome, welcome my friend!!!!
Gotta say natty, the more and more im delving into the science behind pure fatloss (as I stated at the start of my log, most my previous research has been for LBM gains) the more and more Im appreciating Alpha T-2's ingredients individually therein but even more so the combination of said ingredients into one supplement.... I tip my hat to you!!!
09-25-2010, 11:42 PM
Sooooo folks.... after short deliberation and input from my great peers I have just dosed my first dose of Clenbuterol @40mcg
OP will be updated with addition to dosing protocol and supplements used.
09-26-2010, 06:21 PM
09-27-2010, 07:59 AM
In for the Monday morning Clen update. How's it treating you? Any headaches so far?
RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
09-27-2010, 02:14 PM
Actually doing fine so far.... Dosed 40mcg again yesterday with no problems, gonna bump the dose to 60 today see how it goes.
09-27-2010, 02:16 PM
09-27-2010, 09:53 PM
Gonna have a slight change in plans here for the CUT.......... my diet....
Just not cuttin it, ya i made a funny.... I feel as though my metabolism is actually suffering greatly, I dont feel as thermogenic as I think I should(although at some times I do) given the supplements im taking, most the time Im very foggy headed and thoughts take a long time to process (lack of glycogen in the brain), I doubt Im even coming close to repairing my body in a timely manner in order to build fat burning muscle and BOTTOM LINE IS IM BEAT ALL THE TIME!!!!! (feel week as crap, legs buckling walking down stairs, having to sit down/lean on things to cook)
My body, although flabby as it looks, NEEDS CARBS... just a fact that Ive known for quite some time and although I did TONS of research on Keto diets and what they offer for some I just dont feel its right for me....
My body can actually handle Carbs VERY well... sadly enough it cant handle a 12 pack of beer a day and sittin on my arse for nearly 2 years... SO.....
So instead I will be abusing the GI tables into working for my favor. Much like when I am lean bulking BUT I will still be in a caloric deficit for my energy expenditure, this is certain given portion sizes for meals, my workout regimen and the added supplementation. I will be adjusting my diet across this next week, with exception of today which I need to drastically fill with carbs and protein and almost no fat other then that I will be making the change slowly as to avoid any HUGE rebound as unlikely as it may be.
- I will still be doing fasted AM cardio
- I will still be supplementing the same.
- I will still be limiting night time carbs to almost nill EXCEPT if I lift at night then I will use it in my preworkout and postworkout meals to prime circulation of glucose for heavy lifting and then replenish glycogen stores after..... BUT will use LOW GI foods for this. (but you gotta figure my "night time" workouts are just like a normal persons 3 or 4o'clock workouts given I stay up so friggin late)
Basically its just gonna work better for my situation... gotta listen to my body and just adjust whats worked for me in the past to better suit weight loss... a natural ecto does not belong doin a Keto diet IMO. I want to be building a LIL muscle right now, everyone knows the more muscle you have the more fat you can burn but this diet isnt gonna do that for me.... sure Ill lose WEIGHT.... but who says from where.
This way I KNOW ill lose weight, I used to NEVER do cardio, NEVER cut cals (always a HUGE surplus, could eat a CLEAN 3500 cals a day easy n stay lookin like I did), and NEVER do 2 a day workouts (pretty much only supplemented for muscle mass with minimal fat gain, like nutrient partitioners n stuff, as well)....
Given all this Im CERTAIN I will still be losing weight and more likely at an even faster rate, all the while prob put on some lean mass too.
Hopefully you all dont think im throwin in the towel on this, its very much so still a cut n hope you still follow along... its just begun IMO.
09-29-2010, 01:09 AM
So the diet since changed has made a world of difference in the way I feel.... No longer dying for strength just standing still.... also, as I assumed, the thermogenic effects have increased, sweating more even when sedentary... Can only suppose metabolism is up as well with this effect
Working out today I felt much stronger then last week already buuuut still using weights not even 1/3 as heavy as what I was used to when I was in normal shape.... Suuuuucks...
Good thing is time is one thing I have right now and muscle memory is in my favor.... Also get paid in a couple days and will be getting a few more goodies....
jacked (this original anadraulic state tastes like death and has a tendency of emptying my bowels)
Some bulk creatine (what kind is yet to be decided and open to suggestion)
Hopefully these things will both aid my workouts and increase muscular glycogen retention as opposed to insulin induced fat storage.
Any other tips or suggestions folks?
09-29-2010, 09:18 AM
well, I was planning on sending you a bottle of glycobol as soon as my order comes in so don't really need the AP
09-29-2010, 09:30 AM
You have plenty of muscle support in your arsenal right now, so let's refocus some effort.
How about something for Vo2 max and lactic acid buffering, allowing you to crank out some hardcore cardio.... Citrovol Ultra by Millenium Sport Technologies has Citrulline-Malate and their brilliant Cordygen5 mix of Cordyceps, along with some other goodies. It will give you a pump, the endurance for an extra mile, and makes my lungs feel like balloons.
And the other is by MST, their MVP multi-vitamin is a fantastic multi.
Try PMing either Millenium1 or CTDeuce as they usually have a fantastic coupon that makes their stuff pretty affordable. They are one company I explicitly trust.
The Historic PES Legend
09-29-2010, 05:29 PM
09-29-2010, 05:38 PM
09-29-2010, 06:09 PM
Great workout tourist has translated into decent doms today.... Also @ ~90-100mcg of clen today, woooowheeee, shakes like crazy within 30 min of dosing, still pretty bad r right now 4 hours later... Also kind feeling sickish, but pretty sure its from the clen since I remember feeling like this last time I took it aaaand got a slight headache....
Because of this I will likely back off to 75/80 mcg tomorrow and see if its a lil more bearable. Sure is some nasty stuff, better be doin some good work.....
still weighed in at 193 last time I checked, that's with the readjusted diet so looks like a good 2 lbs thus far..... hopefully this can continue but I know I should also be putting on some muscle mass so the numbers might not tell the whole story.
09-29-2010, 06:35 PM
09-30-2010, 12:12 AM
For sure, always does..... After a short while though it goes to almost nil even when I'm growing fast, just beat my muscles up and they are ready for more the next day.
I like feeling it though, shows me my body is responding to what I'm doing and hopefully readjusting quickly to the weights.
09-30-2010, 09:33 AM
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