Poops comeback log.... its stinky. (first cut ever)

[poopypants]

Remember that? LOL

Lol, most definitely do brother, most definitely do.

Thanks for stoppin in too man great to see all my pals again for sure....

Hate fallin off the face of the earth like that when I know so many people must wonder n stuff if everythings alright, sorry guys...

[poopypants]

sooooo I was just thinking....

I have a nearly full bottle of clen still chillin in my supp drawer...

USUALLY I hate the stuff, gives me horrible headaches, but that was cause I was taking it at the same time as some other supps that also rasied bp (i assume as they felt like typically bp head aches)

For the sake of not going supp happy I had previously not included it (that and the fact i dont like it much) BUUUUUT now Im thinking on such an extreme cut as Im pulling right now would it be wise to low dose for its anti muscle wasting effects alone(anticatabolic)... added fatloss is a bonus but not the intention here.

What do you guys think???? Suggested doses??

[Mulletsoldier]

Poop-a-loop!

[poopypants]

Poop-a-loop!

lol, whatup mullet!!!!

Wasnt sure if you were still here my man! hadnt seen you yet since I just got back!

Hows things at good old USPL?

[MrBigPR]

clen sounds good, I would still go 2 on 2 off with it

[chocolatemilk]

Hmm... I don't see enough power in your stack arsenal to combat clens muscle waisting. Whatever little muscle you have left will be taken...

I say no unless you're just going for a straight weight loss sort of deal and planning to bulk back up after it.

And I hope MJ treats me well always. I love it. Can't live without it.

[poopypants]

Hmm... I don't see enough power in your stack arsenal to combat clens muscle waisting. Whatever little muscle you have left will be taken...

I say no unless you're just going for a straight weight loss sort of deal and planning to bulk back up after it.

And I hope MJ treats me well always. I love it. Can't live without it.

..... i think your mistaken here.... clen is ANTI catabolic.... it prevents muscle wasting... some have even purported that clen is even ANABOLIC... but thats not the idea here...

basically with such a caloric deficit, both resistance and cardio training and the combination of thryroid hormones being taken here im thinking it could definately do me some good in sparing some muscle...

just wondering if its A)smart B)whats the best effective dose to use while avoiding sides...

Androhard should be great for this too if Trauma is able to hook it up but in the mean time the clen is just sittin there in its vial all staring at me and what not "I can do it, let me protect your weeeeenie muscles", lol.


As far as MJ goes.... well we have a love/hate relationship that just aint too healthy and way better off without her... but more power to ya if shes nice to you.

[poopypants]

clen sounds good, I would still go 2 on 2 off with it

thats 2 weeks on 2 weeks off right???

what dose do you think would be good, or ramping plan....

also whats your opinion on using benadryl to refresh the histamine receptors in the off time...


also this wont be competing with the methyl synephrine in Alpha T-2 would it???? damn i gotta figure this out...


ohhhhhh aaaadddddaaaaaammmmmsssss!!!!!

[chocolatemilk]

..... i think your mistaken here.... clen is ANTI catabolic.... it prevents muscle wasting... some have even purported that clen is even ANABOLIC... but thats not the idea here...
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As far as MJ goes.... well we have a love/hate relationship that just aint too healthy and way better off without her... but more power to ya if shes nice to you.

Ah sorry I read clen and in my mind I saw t3 lol.

[poopypants]

Ah sorry I read clen and in my mind I saw t3 lol.

Ya.... No way I'm adding t3.... Already have t4 running wich converts at a more natural rate to t3 and have t2 running in the alpha t-2 do us im personally maxed out on the thyroid hormones... Don't need to suppress it into non existance so I rebound into an even fatter lard after this, lol.

Not even gonna run the t4 that much longer either....

[MAxximal]

Not too late but I`m in!!!!!!

Ufffffff is HOOOT here...!!!

[poopypants]

Not too late but I`m in!!!!!!

Ufffffff is HOOOT here...!!!

def one of my favorites!!!! that girly has one hell of a booty!

[MAxximal]

def one of my favorites!!!! that girly has one hell of a booty!

YESSS!!!

[MrBigPR]

Ah sorry I read clen and in my mind I saw t3 lol.

Same here milk. So many people stack them due to the great synergy. Clen has anti catabolic properties but it's anabolic properties are very short lived (7-10 days). I'd ramp up to my most tolerant dose and then titrate down, reset with benadryl on the off weeks and then pick it back up. You could try and run some ketotifen and run the clen straight.

synephrine and clen act on different beta receptors, 2 and 3 respectively, so you should be good to go in that aspect.

I believe if you have the product, utilize it to it's full capabilities. You can control your dose to whatever suits you.

[poopypants]

awesome... thats exactly what i needed to hear.

I thought it was a beta 2 agonist but wasnt sure..... all i remembered was the reading i did in its comparison to ephedrine which essentially bombards most all the receptors indiscriminately and clen targeted only one beneficial one... just couldnt remember which.

[MrBigPR]

Ya.... No way I'm adding t3.... Already have t4 running wich converts at a more natural rate to t3 and have t2 running in the alpha t-2 do us im personally maxed out on the thyroid hormones... Don't need to suppress it into non existance so I rebound into an even fatter lard after this, lol.

Not even gonna run the t4 that much longer either....

The theory of thyroid complete shutdown and rebound is nonsense, from those who did see weight gain it was probably due to a sh(tty diet. My bud was running T3 at very high doses (200mg) for 9 weeks with a slew of anabolics and had one of the sh*ttiest diets I have ever seen. He remained very lean and slim but when he got off the meds he really saw the damage.

the key when coming off of t3/4 is to slowly ramp your cals back up...SLOWLY. diet should always be on point with these products but there are people who take advantage of the BMR increases. They get what they deserve when it comes to rebound.

[MAxximal]

awesome... thats exactly what i needed to hear.

I thought it was a beta 2 agonist but wasnt sure..... all i remembered was the reading i did in its comparison to ephedrine which essentially bombards most all the receptors indiscriminately and clen targeted only one beneficial one... just couldnt remember which.

is old but maybe can help you!
Advanced Fat Loss Discussion (alpha/beta receptors)

[poopypants]

The theory of thyroid complete shutdown and rebound is nonsense, from those who did see weight gain it was probably due to a sh(tty diet. My bud was running T3 at very high doses (200mg) for 9 weeks with a slew of anabolics and had one of the sh*ttiest diets I have ever seen. He remained very lean and slim but when he got off the meds he really saw the damage.

the key when coming off of t3/4 is to slowly ramp your cals back up...SLOWLY. diet should always be on point with these products but there are people who take advantage of the BMR increases. They get what they deserve when it comes to rebound.

for sure.... I plan on getting off t4 sooner then later, preferably while the Alpha T-2 is still running so I have some non-suppressive thyroid support.... BUT the one thing that would be somewhat ideal would be to stretch out the amount i have left, dose through the entire cut and getting back down to where I want to be then lifting off as I start my Come back Cycle Im gonna run right after to throw on the meat... just dont know that I want or can run it that long... have alot more clen then t4 right now...

proper macros in their own rights are always a must for me in any normal condition once it comes time to get off this cut and build lean muscle... just right now trying to get as close to a keto diet as possible.... a full blown one just isnt possible for me though since I get hypo so damn easy...

[nattydisaster]

IN!!!!!!!!

[poopypants]

welcome, welcome my friend!!!!

Gotta say natty, the more and more im delving into the science behind pure fatloss (as I stated at the start of my log, most my previous research has been for LBM gains) the more and more Im appreciating Alpha T-2's ingredients individually therein but even more so the combination of said ingredients into one supplement.... I tip my hat to you!!!