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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Man have you checked your bp, that sounds like a major High BP head ache.
    the last time i did was about a week ago, it was in a good range...but i did experience some bp headaches earlier and have upp'd my water and bp support supps....it would probably be in my best interest to test the bp again even though i havent' seen much in the way of headaches since the sd...until now

    this headache feels different though, it may be the severity but it's only on the left side and it feels like pressure more than it a constant pain if that makes sense....hopefully i can get a handle on these, i haven't missed a workout from an illness or anything except for injury in a loong time
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    what u taking for BP support? im following along...got a bunch of erase i will be starting eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjwoody View Post
    what u taking for BP support? im following along...got a bunch of erase i will be starting eventually.
    Right now I'm taking a gram of hawthorn in the morning, i have liquid celery seed extract so i've been taking that but measurements are basically the same but could vary in the morning

    in the afternoon i take 1 garlic pill and grape seed pill

    at night another 550mg of hawthorn, sometimes some more celery seed
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    Well if it is just one side of your head then you probably have a knot in one of the muscles at the base of your skull in your neck. I have had them before and they are unpleasant. I was able to feel around and find mine and apply pressure to the knot until it let go. Anyway give it a shot feel around the bottom of the back of your skull pushing in a little and if you find a spot that is a little tender then work on that spot and see if it doesn't let up. May not be what is causing it but can't hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Well if it is just one side of your head then you probably have a knot in one of the muscles at the base of your skull in your neck. I have had them before and they are unpleasant. I was able to feel around and find mine and apply pressure to the knot until it let go. Anyway give it a shot feel around the bottom of the back of your skull pushing in a little and if you find a spot that is a little tender then work on that spot and see if it doesn't let up. May not be what is causing it but can't hurt.
    I think that does have something to do with it, i didn't feel anything while sleeping but i woke up sunday and my lower right side of my neck was killing me, it was that night that i started feeling crazy pressure on the opposit side of my head, i practiced massage therapy for alittle while in high school and still give massages on occasion, so i've been working and pressing and kneeding around my neck...also have been sitting in my fathers massage chair, using the shoulder spots and lowering them and putting them in close so they are at the base of my neck.....so far to day not as bad, hopefully we can keep it away
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    Tuesday: uppper body

    I did an upper body workout since i didn't go to the gym monday and didn't want to skip any specific body part for the week

    still had a headache, not as bad, but after having the weight in my hands and putting them down, my head was throbbing for about 15 seconds afterwards which sucked, saw some stars a few times doing bench and shoulder presses...so i tried to stay between 8-12 reps so i didn't kill myself while i had weight in my hand

    on the other hand, PES is on to something with Erase affecting the thyroid, after i take my night dose i feel heat about a half hour later, even this morning after my dose i'm at work and feel a warmth similar to the Alpha T2, that stack should be killer for fat loss, might be my winter cut stack since i plan on laying off hormonals for awhile after this
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    Wednesday: Legs/Abs

    Squats: 135 x 12, 185 x 10, 235 x 8, 245 x 7, 135 x 14

    Donkey Calf Raises: 70 x 20, 95 x 20, 120 x 15, 135 x 12

    Leg extension superset leg curl: 255 x 12: 80 x 12, 270 x 12: 95 x 10, 285 x 10: 110 x 10, 285 x 10: 125 x 8

    Hack squat machine (plate loaded): 100 x 12, 145 x 10, 190 x 8, 215 x 7

    Abs: about 10 minutes of random ab excercises including decline sit ups, hanging leg raises, ball sit ups, and side weighted dips

    Didn't have much time because i had a meeting later at night but it seems when i have that short amount of time, i take short rest and did what i normally do a lot quicker than normal, didn't push the squat totals all that crazy because of the short rest, threw in hack squats because i still had some extra time left....headache wasn't bothering me and that feeling was welcomed, today i will go back to upper body, tuesday i did extra chest on uppper body day, so today i will throw in some extra back
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    Thursday: upper body

    What a strange week in the gym for me, another upper body day, i really like doing this routine, the whole upper body pump feels incredible, and i feel like my muscles are constantly fresh because i'm not totally killing them with one workout after another

    however i had no headaches all day at work, got to the gym and was fine, until my 3rd or 4th set of lat pulldowns when i got up the pain was intense in the back of my neck and left temple, the pain dulled after i was done with the lat pulldowns and continued my workout but still remained into the night, before bed it was kind of nonexistent and this morning, i feel pretty good once gain

    as for the erase, i have made it a lot farther on this sd bridge than i did last time, and haven't had any estrogen sides, i do get some nice heat from this stuff, dried out quite a bit but i think from upping my water during this headache that my stomach is alittle bloated however i have some really nice veins running through my bicep and noticeable veins in my shoulders that i don't usually have when doing any shoulder excercise.....so far it's a homerun product in my book
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    Saturday:

    Had a charity race, and went to the gym for lower body afterwards....didn't do anything specific kind of just did random leg work just to get the work in

    Monday: Chest/Tris

    Flat Bench: 145 x 12, 155 x 10, 165 x 8, 170 x 7 dropset 135 x 7

    Incline db press: 45 x 12, 45 x 12, 55 x 10, 60 x 7

    Decline bench: 135 x 12, 155 x 10, 175 x 7

    Peck Deck: 115 x 12, 145 x 10, 175 x 7 dropset 115 x 6

    Tri:

    V Bar pushdown: 50 x 12, 70 x 10, 90 x 8 dropset 70 x 6

    Overhead Db Extension: 40 x 12, 50 x 10, 60 x 8

    Rope Extension superset w/ DB Kickback: 90 x 12: 25 x 10, 105 x 10: 30 x 10, 120 x 10: 30 x 10

    So my headache went away for most of the weekend, then i did some extra "activity" with my girl and bam the headache came right back, did some research on it and i guess it happens, sometimes due to high bp sometimes from tensing the neck to much while doing it, i've sworn off the she devil for the rest of this cycle.....thank god it's over after this week though, i hit the point on saturday when i just can't wait for it to end haha, happens everytime

    but i wanted to stay a bit lighter and more reps, plus the heavy weight makes my head throb right now, it didn't hurt at all saturday but after that activity over the weekend it hurt sunday and yesterday alittle and i'd rather get a workout in than being dizzy and not getting one in

    weight: 163 (+15)....even with the crappy week and all the problems, i'm still gaining some weight
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    Nice stuff man any recent pics? Wanna see you at the height of your bulk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Nice stuff man any recent pics? Wanna see you at the height of your bulk.
    nah i haven't taken pictures in a few months, maybe i will....but i gotta cut my justin beiber/tom brady looking mop on my head before i try taking pictures
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    Back/Bis:

    Lat Pulldown: 120 x 12, 140 x 10, 160 x 8, 180 x 7 (last one was forced, not best form)

    Iso Lat High Pull: 70 x 12, 90 x 10, 115 x 9, 125 x 7

    Iso Lat Row: 70 x 12, 85 x 10, 95 x 7

    Straight Bar Pull Down: 40 x 12, 50 x 10, 60 x 8

    Deadlift: 135 x 12, 135 x 10, 185 x 8, 225 x 7

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    Alt DB Curl: 25 x 12, 35 x 8, 40 x 7

    Seated Alt DB Hammer Curl: 20 x 12, 25 x 10, 35 x 7

    EZ Bar Preacher Curl: 15 x 12, 25 x 10, 30 x 7 dropset 20 x 7

    Good workout, not to much pressure after excercises besides lat pulldowns and deadlifts, hopefully i'm getting over the headaches once again for the final few days of the cycle

    Strange thing i've noticed over the last few days is, usually my p.m. dose of Erase is when I would feel the heat from the product, I now notice more heat with the morning dose, maybe because i work in an office with old ladies and it's so hot but i get to work and feel the heat

    i forgot to mention my goal was to reach 165lbs before january this year, i'm 2 lbs away, hopefully i can get to my goal before november and maintain it until january when i start a program that i'm calling six pack or bust for next summer
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    Wednesday: Cardio/abs

    Cardio: 30 minutes hiit on eliptical

    Abs: mixed ab routine for 15 minutes

    Another good workout, felt good, no headaches, alittle drier but this stuff takes its action quickly and continues to hold you at that spot, no waiting "3 weeks" for the stuff to kick in like many products that are out there now
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    Thursday: Legs/Abs

    Squats: 135 x 12, 185 x 10, 235 x 8, 255 x 5, 185 x 8

    Donkey Calf Raises: 75 x 20, 100 x 20, 125 x 15, 140 x 13

    Leg extension superset leg curl: 255 x 12: 80 x 12, 270 x 12: 95 x 10, 285 x 10: 110 x 10, 285 x 10: 125 x 8

    Abs: Reverse back extension sit ups for 20 x 3 sets superset with bench press leg raises for 12 x 3

    Almost killed myself, not during squats either....when i do bench press leg raises i notice a lot of ppl hold onto the the posts of the bench, well my wing span isn't the greatest so i put my arms on the bar itself, usually ppl just leave weight on everything and i guess never noticed anything when doing them, well yesterday on my last set of leg raises i guess i used to the bar to much and pull it right off the rack while my legs were vertically above me, thank god it was just the bar and there wasn't any plates because i could of hurt myself, then again the bar probably wouldn't have moved

    felt good during the workout, no knee dryness at all during this cycle which is really good and i didn't experience any pressure headaches during squatting which was good....sunday's the last day of the cycle before pct starts and i'll be glad to start the recovery process, this has been the longest cycle i have run to date
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    Saturday: shoulders

    Standing BB Press: 95 x 12, 95 x 12, 115 x 8, 135 x 6, 95 x 8

    High Row: 65 x 12, 85 x 10, 95 x 8, 115 x 6, 85 x 8

    Side Raise machine: 70 x 12, 95 x 10, 110 x 8, 115 x 7, 95 x 9

    Rope Front Raise: 15 x 12, 30 x 10, 35 x 8, 45 x 5, 30 x 8

    Shrug machine (plate loaded): 45 x 20, 70 x 17, 90 x 13

    I did my buddies routine with him, it's to many working sets imo, but i went along with it since it was the last day i would be working on cycle

    Everything went realtively smooth this time around on cycle, the Erase i believe played a big role in keeping everything in check during any and all transitions that were made

    now it's PCT time

    Weight- 164lbs-165lbs (+16)
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    Monday: Chest/Tris

    BB bench: 135 x 12, 145 x 10, 155 x 9, 185 x 4, 155 x 8

    BB Incline: 135 x 10, 145 x 8, 155 x 6, 145 x 7, 135 x 9

    BB Decline: 135 x 12, 155 x 10, 175 x 7, 180 x 6, 145 x 9

    Tricep:

    V Bar Pushdown: 50 x 12, 70 x 10, 90 x 8

    Overhead Rope Extension: 30 x 12, 40 x 10, 60 x 6

    Underhand Straight Bar Pulldown: 30 x 12, 40 x 10, 40 x 10

    I worked with my buddy once again, and once again i don't do that many working sets for my lifts, i do 3 or 4 sets and on to the next one but my buddy insists on a lot more sets, not a big deal having a spotter is good no matter what i'm doing, it did feel like we were tossing weights around even if the weight wasn't very high it felt easy and good

    on the other hand i wanted to do skull crushers for triceps along with some other things, but with the time restraint and most of the time being spent on chest i did quick things for my tri's....did get one helluva pump though....might try and blast my tri's again later this week
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    Back/Bis:

    Lat Pulldown: 120 x 12, 140 x 10, 160 x 8, 180 x 7 (last one was forced, not best form)

    Iso Lat High Pull: 70 x 12, 90 x 10, 115 x 9, 125 x 7

    Iso Lat Row: 70 x 12, 85 x 10, 95 x 7

    Straight Bar Pull Down: 40 x 12, 50 x 10, 60 x 8

    Knee Lat Pulldowns: 25 x 12, 35 x 10, 45 x 8

    Deadlift: 135 x 12, 135 x 10, 185 x 8, 225 x 7

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    Alt DB Curl: 25 x 12, 35 x 8, 40 x 7

    Seated Alt DB Hammer Curl: 20 x 12, 25 x 10, 35 x 8

    Cable Preacher Curl: 30 x 12, 30 x 12, 50 x 7

    DB Concentration curl: 15 x 12, 20 x 10, 25 x 10

    Felt good in the gym, good pumps, good energy....and ohhh does it feel good to be able to drink coffee once again....vascularity from this Erase is incredible, veins in my forearms are noticeable even when not pumped up, loving that look...to bad the bottle is going to be running out soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    Felt good in the gym, good pumps, good energy....and ohhh does it feel good to be able to drink coffee once again....vascularity from this Erase is incredible, veins in my forearms are noticeable even when not pumped up, loving that look...to bad the bottle is going to be running out soon
    Thats one of the things I am always saddened by, when a supplement provides you with something awesome (Pumps, Vascularity, etc..) and you start getting near the end

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    Wednesday: Cardio/Abs

    Cardio: 30 minutes HIIT on eliptical

    Abs: about 15 minutes of random ab excercises, a lot of leg lifts, i've since read that that doing direct oblique training widens ppls waists, so i kind of shy'd away from doing anything to directly hit my sides

    Cardio was alittle difficult at first, felt like i haven't done cardio in awhile, after some time though i was in full swing
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    Thursday: Legs/Abs

    Squats: 135 x 12, 185 x 10, 235 x 8, 255 x 5, 185 x 8

    Donkey Calf Raises: 75 x 20, 100 x 20, 125 x 15, 140 x 13

    Leg extension superset leg curl: 255 x 12: 80 x 12, 270 x 12: 95 x 10, 285 x 10: 110 x 10, 285 x 10: 125 x 8

    DB Step Ups: 25lb x 10 each leg for 3 sets

    As I mentioned earlier this week I wanted some more tricep work, i didn't log it in my book and pretty much just supersetted one tricep workout with one ab workout.....did this until i had a nice pump in my tricep and also led to my abs feeling the burn

    Fairly good workout, i really enjoy squatting right now, it will last that way for alittle and then i'll hate it...but that happens with every workout i do...but for now i'll be walking like a penguin atleast every friday and saturday
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    Saturday: Shoulders/Abs

    Standing BB Shoulder Press: 75 x 12, 95 x 12, 105 x 8, 115 x 7

    BB High Row: 65 x 12, 85 x 10, 105 x 7 dropset (close grip) 85 x 6 dropset (wide grip) 65 x 6

    Rear Delt machine (plate loaded): 20 x 12, 25 x 10, 32 1/2 x 8

    DB Front Raises: 15 x 12, 20 x 10, 25 x 8, 30 x 5

    BB Shrugs: 135 x 20, 185 x 17, 235 x 10

    Read DB Shrugs: 135 x 20, 225 x 10

    Abs: An assortment of hanging leg raises, bench press leg raises, decline sit ups, planks, and swiss ball sit ups

    My girl decided to take boxing classes at the gym i go to so i was done with my routine before she was done so i kind of just kept doing random ab workouts in order to get a burn and work a sweat....workout was good, feel a lot better now that i have stopped the cycle, but the erase which has been amazing is almost done, i think thursday will be the last day if i counted right
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    Monday: Chest

    BB Bench: 135 x 12, 145 x 10, 155 x 8, 170 x 5, 135 x 8

    DB Incline Press: 45 x 12, 55 x 9, 60 x 8, 60 x 7

    BB Decline Press: 135 x 12, 145 x 10, 155 x 8, 165 x 7

    Cable Crossover: 25 x 15, 30 x 12, 35 x 10

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    EZ bar Skuller crusher into close grip press: 15 x 10: 15 x 10, 20 x 10: 20 x 8, 25 x 8: 25 x 8

    V Bar Pushdown: 50 x 12, 70 x 10, 80 x 8....out of frustration 80 x 7

    Underhand straight bar pulldown superset w/ tricep pulldown machine: 20 x 12: 25 x 10, 30 x 10: 25 x 10, 40 x 9: 25 x 10

    Just one of those days...weight on all lifts were down a lot, worse than before the cycle, i was used to getting more reps out of the same weight, so i was still going to failure which i took as positive but still unhappy and unsure of what happened, i felt good in the gym with proper sleep the night before and nutrition before workout, but i don't have any answer to why my strength decreased

    all in all though i do feel better now than on cycle, still get an occasional headache but its only either in the morning if i dont' sleep 100% or at work, wondering if it's the exposure to bright neon lights all day because once i leave work i'm good, even when i go to my car and lunch it seems to diminish a bit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    Monday: Chest

    BB Bench: 135 x 12, 145 x 10, 155 x 8, 170 x 5, 135 x 8

    DB Incline Press: 45 x 12, 55 x 9, 60 x 8, 60 x 7

    BB Decline Press: 135 x 12, 145 x 10, 155 x 8, 165 x 7

    Cable Crossover: 25 x 15, 30 x 12, 35 x 10

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    EZ bar Skuller crusher into close grip press: 15 x 10: 15 x 10, 20 x 10: 20 x 8, 25 x 8: 25 x 8

    V Bar Pushdown: 50 x 12, 70 x 10, 80 x 8....out of frustration 80 x 7

    Underhand straight bar pulldown superset w/ tricep pulldown machine: 20 x 12: 25 x 10, 30 x 10: 25 x 10, 40 x 9: 25 x 10

    Just one of those days...weight on all lifts were down a lot, worse than before the cycle, i was used to getting more reps out of the same weight, so i was still going to failure which i took as positive but still unhappy and unsure of what happened, i felt good in the gym with proper sleep the night before and nutrition before workout, but i don't have any answer to why my strength decreased

    all in all though i do feel better now than on cycle, still get an occasional headache but its only either in the morning if i dont' sleep 100% or at work, wondering if it's the exposure to bright neon lights all day because once i leave work i'm good, even when i go to my car and lunch it seems to diminish a bit
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    Tuesday: Back/Bis

    Wide Grip Pullups: bw x 10, bw x 9, bw x 8, bw x 9, bw + 10 x 6

    Close Grip Pullup: bw x 10, bw x 10, bw x 8, bw x 8, bw + 10 x 5 and 2 force reps with help

    T Bar row: 70 x 12, 90 x 10, 115 x 9, 135 x 8

    Deadlift: 135 x 12, 185 x 10, 225 x 7, 250 x 4, 135 x 8

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    BB Curl: 65 x 12, 75 x 10, 85 x 9, 105 x 4, 85 x 7

    Incline DB Hammer: 20 x 10, 25 x 8, 30 x 5, 20 x 8

    Standing ez bar preacher machine (plate loaded): 15 x 10, 20 x 8, 25 x 7, 30 x 5

    Alittle different workout than I like but my partner is a huge fan of pullups and doing back strictly with body weight and usually i get there earlier than him for back day so i do my routine and he jumps in when he can, i was reading an article about pullups being better for mass than lat pulldowns which i'm skeptical of but i went with it, felt good during deadlifts with a lot of energy but i must say whatever we did to our biceps, but we were both dead with our biceps at the end of the routine

    so sad that erase is almost over with, it's been a fun ride
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    I will tell you for spread, nothing is better than pull ups. Pull downs are great for definition and isolation, but pull ups is where it is at... especially if you can hang a plate from your junk.

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    Tuesday: Back/Bis

    Wide Grip Pullups: bw x 10, bw x 9, bw x 8, bw x 9, bw + 10 x 6

    Close Grip Pullup: bw x 10, bw x 10, bw x 8, bw x 8, bw + 10 x 5 and 2 force reps with help

    T Bar row: 70 x 12, 90 x 10, 115 x 9, 135 x 8

    Deadlift: 135 x 12, 185 x 10, 225 x 7, 250 x 4, 135 x 8

    Bi:

    BB Curl: 65 x 12, 75 x 10, 85 x 9, 105 x 4, 85 x 7

    Incline DB Hammer: 20 x 10, 25 x 8, 30 x 5, 20 x 8

    Standing ez bar preacher machine (plate loaded): 15 x 10, 20 x 8, 25 x 7, 30 x 5

    Alittle different workout than I like but my partner is a huge fan of pullups and doing back strictly with body weight and usually i get there earlier than him for back day so i do my routine and he jumps in when he can, i was reading an article about pullups being better for mass than lat pulldowns which i'm skeptical of but i went with it, felt good during deadlifts with a lot of energy but i must say whatever we did to our biceps, but we were both dead with our biceps at the end of the routine

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    I will tell you for spread, nothing is better than pull ups. Pull downs are great for definition and isolation, but pull ups is where it is at... especially if you can hang a plate from your junk.
    yeah i'm going to start adding them in my routine, i try and stay strict with them but i feel ppl just use any means necessary to get up and not really concentrate on their lats....and yeah my buddy was hanging like 70lbs from his junk....hopefully after a month or so i can up the amount of weight i can hang
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    yeah i'm going to start adding them in my routine, i try and stay strict with them but i feel ppl just use any means necessary to get up and not really concentrate on their lats....and yeah my buddy was hanging like 70lbs from his junk....hopefully after a month or so i can up the amount of weight i can hang
    Even if you try to "Cheat" to complete the pull up... trust me, there is no way to not work the necessary muscles. Even trying to "Throw" yourself up, you are still pulling with all your might.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Even if you try to "Cheat" to complete the pull up... trust me, there is no way to not work the necessary muscles. Even trying to "Throw" yourself up, you are still pulling with all your might.
    I too came to realize this, that a couple reps at the end of the set can be sloppy as long as I am getting above the bar.
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    Wednesday: Cardio/abs

    Cardio: 30 minutes elliptical HIIT style

    Abs: 15 minutes of random ab workouts

    Nothing special to report....some headaches popped up again...blood pressure after drinking my ASGT and before the gym was 126/68 which isn't to bad, not bad enough to cause headaches....about an hour after the gym my blood pressure was 117/71 which is even better but thats common after a training session....i'm starting to think it's def either sinus's or from when i slept on my neck wrong a few weeks ago, so i went and used one of those tea kettle shapped things and you pour it in your nose to clear sinus's....also have a microwavable heat wrap that i wore around my neck last night because that seems to be where the pressure build up is....hopefully it works

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    Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    That seems like a high systolic bp
    sorry, i posted them wrong, my fault, i fixed them...the systolic was alittle high the first time, but nothing crazy
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    Thursday: Legs/Abs

    Squat: 135 x 12, 185 x 10, 225 x 8, 260 x 5, 185 x 8

    Donkey Calf Raises: 90 x 20, 115 x 17, 140 x 15, 155 x 12

    Leg extension superset leg curl: 255 x 12: 80 x 12, 270 x 12: 95 x 10, 285 x 10: 110 x 10, 285 x 10: 125 x 8

    DB Step Ups: 25lb x 10 each leg for 3 sets

    Abs: Did some random ab workouts for about 30 minutes while helping spot a friend doing shoulder presses....pretty much just kept doing workouts until he was ready for another set and used that as my rest periods

    Erase is all gone now....it was a fun run and final review will be up soon enough.....Thanks for everyone who followed along
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    Young Gotti, how u measuring ur BP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjwoody View Post
    Young Gotti, how u measuring ur BP?
    local pharmacys and such
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    cool, thx. going to hit up one of those machines at a walmart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjwoody View Post
    cool, thx. going to hit up one of those machines at a walmart.
    yeah theres a machine at a rite aid or something next to my gym, so i pop in there once a week...kinda get some crazy looks since i walk to the back, take my blood pressure and leave haha, but whatever, free blood pressure test is nice
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    Looking forward to the final review on Erase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Looking forward to the final review on Erase.
    i know i've meant to post it, but we're busy at work this week and i'm stuck using a mini laptop as my home computer for now and i hate typing on it....also been tossing around on how to review it since strength and stuff are eliminated because i was on cycle
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    Final Review:

    I took Erase while on a cycle of Beastdrol that I bridged into The One. So this review is alittle different and can only comment on things I've noticed during this cycle.

    Estro control: This stuff is awesome as far as estrogen control is concerned. Last time I bridged and SD product with another compound I had. It didn't workout so well, as soon as I bridged off the SD and onto the other compound completely, my nipple blew up. This time around with the Erase I didn't have that problem and it kind of became an after thought. However the Erase didn't destroy my estrogen so low that I had lethargy or any other side affects associated with lower estrogen.

    Dryness: This stuff is excellent for keeping things nice and dry. I had dry joints a few times, but nothing crazy. However after about 3 days I noticed I became more dry as each day went by until about the 2 week mark. Then I noticed, I stayed about as dry and I was going to get.

    Fat Loss: I didn't notice a huge amount of overall fat loss, but I did notice some fat loss. This isn't a fat burner by any means, but the cortisol properties in this product along with the anti-estro drying affects help give a nice slimmer look. I MUST add this as I mentioned in my log, when dosing Erase I did receive a thermogenic affect. Mostly after night doses, I'd sit down and watch some television before bed and the heat was on. I also experienced some night sweats while taking the Erase. But as I mentioned, also on SD and The One, so that also could have contributed to this. I think Erase would be an amazing addition to any fat loss cycle.

    As far as things like strength, weight gain/loss, and libido. I can't really comment to much on them. Any strength or weight gain/loss would be affected by the cycle itself.


    Drawbacks: The only drawback I noticed from this product was that the bottle is now empty and I don't have anymore.

    Uses: In the future I will be using this product for cycles of great length. And also want to add this into a future cut. As far as a bulking product, I don't know if I'd use it for that because it drys your out and may not be the best if your concerned about extreme weight gain. However if you want to lean bulk, this product could only help.
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