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    You get used to it, bigt. the problem is that it's hard to start as an adult, because you have to learn to fall. It's much easier to learn as a kid: you're lighter, lower to the ground, etc. So the learning curve is very steep for adults coming in for the first time. It took me 6 month to be able to go hard and leave class without a pinched nerve or other tweakage. But once you get it, it's all good. I get thrown 50-60 time per class, no problem. It's interesting to watch the old guys; they very much resist being thrown, as it hurts too bad. They all stiff from 30-50 years of judo pounding. And their skill level is so ****ing high, they're nearly impossible to throw. I hope that's me someday.

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    hey poison,

    great to see your still going at the CL supplements and judo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    . It's much easier to learn as a kid
    In hindsight, I wish I would have golfed and learned a martial art as a kid. Now, even at 30, I can't get ANYONE to do the things I'm good at such as football. It's a wasted skill for me
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    Great Log...I tried a sample of white flood and was quite impressed. Thinking I may need to pick up a tub of it myself.
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    Holy ****! I think I'm on to something!

    I woke up at 6:40, hit 1.5 scoops of WF at 7, and was in the gym by 7:25. I ran 2 miles in 15 on my toes (no barefoor, the bally's dude was checking on me ). I grabbed an abb maxx recovery 60carb/35 protein, and started sipping as I headed to the weights.

    I sarted with decline bench, alternated with chest supported tbar rows, working up each set, 5 sets of 10, 6th set at 5-7 ie failure-ish. The only rest was walking between machines and weight changes.

    Then I hit deadlift, 10 x 135, then sets of 5, adding 20lbs each set, with the only rest being weight changes, for 5 sets.

    I finished off with alternating ex bar curls and skull crushers, rotator work, and a stretch session. Out in 55 minutes. I looked jacked, and vascularity is still insane.

    I went home, showered, and was at work by 10, where I sat waiting for my client, and ate 2 whopping PB&J sandwiches on whole grain sprouted bread, around 700cals.

    And I realized something, while eating. I was euphoric. Like high, a bit aggro, and with a nearly insatiable need to ****ing break something, or sprint, or fight. Sky high motivation and urge. And now at 11:30, I feel GREAT. Getting hungry, but great.

    There's something about the first thing in the morning, empty stomach dose, and intense ball breaking workout. GH release? The hell if I know, but it's great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows View Post
    hey poison,

    great to see your still going at the CL supplements and judo.
    subb'd!~
    Thanks, man! I've been having issues getting to judo. I finally, after 2 years, got a job that looks like it may be long term. Awesome, because I have a wife and kids, and it's been brutal. But it's all day, and through the evening, every day, so the job cuts out all judo classes. Sucks when the job gets in the way of fun/hobbies/workouts, etc. I'm trying to find an alternate solution, either bjj which has morning classes, or something else. Bjj is too damn expensive, thoug, I can't afford it. We'll see.

    CL is one of the top companies out there, outstanding products. White flood, purple wraath, blue gene, orange triad, oximega, golden gains, REDuction PM, some of my favorite isht right there, and the best in class for each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    In hindsight, I wish I would have golfed and learned a martial art as a kid. Now, even at 30, I can't get ANYONE to do the things I'm good at such as football. It's a wasted skill for me
    I hear you. It's weird, people lose their minds at some point. I can't tell you how often I've heard friends and others say 'i'm 30/40/whatever now, it's time to grow up', which is fine. But they give up their passions, and get lazy and complacent, fat and ugly and bitter.

    **** that noise. I'll be 36 this month, and I can give 20yo's a run for their money in almost any forum. I can't stop age, but I am in control of how it happens, and my own mind. Jack lalanne, randy couture, and any number of old dudes in my dojo.

    I started judo late, 2 years ago. But it's never too late, celc5. I won't stop, God help me, and I aim to be winning judo competitions at 50 and well beyond.

    Go do it, man, it's not too late, and surround yourself with like minded folks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    You get used to it, bigt. the problem is that it's hard to start as an adult, because you have to learn to fall. It's much easier to learn as a kid: you're lighter, lower to the ground, etc. So the learning curve is very steep for adults coming in for the first time. It took me 6 month to be able to go hard and leave class without a pinched nerve or other tweakage. But once you get it, it's all good. I get thrown 50-60 time per class, no problem. It's interesting to watch the old guys; they very much resist being thrown, as it hurts too bad. They all stiff from 30-50 years of judo pounding. And their skill level is so ****ing high, they're nearly impossible to throw. I hope that's me someday.




    what you say about skill level is relevant to every aspect of live, hopefully as we age we acquire enough skill to compensate for losing a step or 2 as we get older.
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    Very true. But in life there's no teacher, no guidebook, it's trial and error with a time limit. With martial arts, the answers are handed to you, thousands of years of combat knowledge in a nice, tight package. The challenge is in doing it, absorbing it successfully; it ain't easy, but it is acheivable, if you work hard enough.

    That's why, imo, martial arts are so awesome. It gives you the feeling of doing something perfectly right, of mastery overy yourself and a technique, in a very controlled environment. It's easier to succeed in other aspects of life, and do life perfectly right (we can try, right?), when you've actually applied yourself and mastered something in a single area, even if small. The perserverance you learn on the mat bleeds (pun intended) into every day life. It'd be tough to succeed, or master, if you've never felt success, or mastery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    Very true. But in life there's no teacher, no guidebook, it's trial and error with a time limit. With martial arts, the answers are handed to you, thousands of years of combat knowledge in a nice, tight package. The challenge is in doing it, absorbing it successfully; it ain't easy, but it is acheivable, if you work hard enough.

    That's why, imo, martial arts are so awesome. It gives you the feeling of doing something perfectly right, of mastery overy yourself and a technique, in a very controlled environment. It's easier to succeed in other aspects of life, and do life perfectly right (we can try, right?), when you've actually applied yourself and mastered something in a single area, even if small. The perserverance you learn on the mat bleeds (pun intended) into every day life. It'd be tough to succeed, or master, if you've never felt success, or mastery.
    life IS trial and errors-the key is to not repeat same mistakes too often. having lived in the philipines in the 80's, i appreciate the things we often take for granted-try going without indoor running water or electricity for just a week. seeing teenaged kids with 1 leg or no arms selling cigarettes for money to eat and sleeping on the streets makes it easier when your doctor is running late for your appointment. it is not always success or mastery that makes you tough, sometimes it is the hardships we endure or see others suffer without complaint.
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    Great post.
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    Btw, I didn't mean to imply success or perfection are the end all, just that pursuing martial arts can foster excellence elsewhere in life. Pretty much everything in life is harder than what takes place on the mat; I can take a beating all day, but the little things (and big ones too) can bring me to my knees.

    I bet the phillippines was awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    Btw, I didn't mean to imply success or perfection are the end all, just that pursuing martial arts can foster excellence elsewhere in life. Pretty much everything in life is harder than what takes place on the mat; I can take a beating all day, but the little things (and big ones too) can bring me to my knees.

    I bet the phillippines was awesome.
    i was in the philipines at the end of marcos's reign, it was right before the end of being an american being someone special. those days are long gone, our piss poor politicians and corrupt big business has made being an american a less than good thing in the eyes of most countries in the world. in those days the attitude towards americans living in the philipines was something special indeed.
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    Wow, you're lucky, man, great experience.
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    Can't wait to try it! I've been usin their White Raspberry flavor for a while now, and it's bearable, but could be better.
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    I worked 42 hours over fri, sat, and sun, and hitting another 14hour day today, it looks like. This morning was my workout morning, but I got in late last night, and nearly over slept this morning. We'll see if I make it up tomorrow morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimninja117 View Post
    Can't wait to try it! I've been usin their White Raspberry flavor for a while now, and it's bearable, but could be better.
    The new flavor is not just bearable, it's excellent.
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    Awesome log!

    I love your passion and what you have to say!
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    Thank you, Illilian!

    Well, this week sucked. Starting last Friday, I worked 14-16 hours a day, with my shifts ending at midnight>2:30am. My kids are up by 6:30-7am, so that's my sleep for the night. I'd try to get back to sleep, but they're noisy , and it was tough.

    I missed every workout for that week. I'm basically a bodyguard for a rich family, and I escort their kids. I end up sitting in my car most of the time. Well, the combination of sitting (which I know is bad for me), and missing the workouts, really worked a number on my back. I went to bed late last night, tired but fine, and woke up feeling like my back was broken. A combination of a kidney punch and being tackled from behind by a linebacker. I could barely bend over (to put my shoes on, perv! ). So I hit up my chiropractor, awesome dude. He basically reiterated what I knew, but attached the word 'destroy' to it: if I keep sitting in my car, I'll destroy my back. Uh, wow. Sucks for me. So he adjusted my back (more like slammed it, I'm strong, and it was ****ED). It went back to where it's supposed to be, but the adjustment spasmed the hell out of the supporting muscled, yeeow. He told me to ice it, and lay off for a few days.

    I went to the gym instead. I hobbled in like an old man, and hung backwards over a balance ball for 10 minutes or so, then lay face down on the floor, propped up on my elbows (to allow my back to fall into the natural lumbar curve. It all hurt like hell, but in a good way.

    Then I chose to do alternating dips and pullups, 7 and 5 reps, as I figured the hanging with stabilization might do me good, and surely wouldn't hurt. I did 8 rounds, moving slow-ish between stations, but with little rest. By the time I finished, I felt MUCH better. THe stretching had relaxed the spasms, and everything was warmed up and loose.

    It still feels sore, quite painful, but it's healing itself.

    Sunday is my 36 birthday. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
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    My back was much better by Sat morning. This morning I got up, opened a birthday present or two while I waited for the WF to hit, and went to the gym.

    2 mile run - started slow, but ended up running hard, as I felt great.

    Alternating flat bench and chest supported rows - 6 sets of each, felt a bit weak due to the time off and residual soreness from Fri, but good to be back.

    DL - went easy, 20 sec rest in between sets on 135lbs: 30, 15, 5. I didn't want to stress my back out too much.

    I've only got a serving or two of WF left, I've dipped in on occasion for random energy on non-workout days.
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    1.5 scoops WF, and the gym 1 hour later.

    2 mile run, easy, I felt a bit run down the last few days.

    Alternating decline and Hammer Strength Low Rows, 6 sets each.

    DL (easy, because of my back)- 10 x 135, 3 x 155, 185, 205, 245, 265

    Alternating curls and behind the head dumbell press.

    Stretch and out.


    WF just makes me feel GOOD. Endurance was high, focus was awesome as always, pumps were huge, and the workout was just great.

    This concludes my log.

    Flavor - 10
    Energy - 10
    Focus - 10
    Pumps - 10
    Endurance - 10



    Yeah, obviously I LOVE WF. It's the best caffeinated pre-workout around. Absolutely lovely stuff. Thanks to CL for allowing me to log this pixie dust er, product.
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    Have you ever tried Hemo Rage Black? I'm just wondering about a comparison
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    Never tried it, no. You should definitely give WF a whirl, it's GREAT.
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    happy birthday in advance-youngster.


    you should be happy to be 36-i will be 52 in sept.-damn!!!
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    It's all good, age is a state of mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    It's all good, age is a state of mind.
    YEAH RIGHT-SAY THAT WHEN YOU HIT 50, LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    Never tried it, no. You should definitely give WF a whirl, it's GREAT.
    I see that it's on sale. I'm gonna pick up a tub with my next order. It's been on my "to do" list for a while now.

    Reason I asked about HRB is because I really liked it. I've always been a fan of TRAC Extreme NO, which has been my fav since day 1. But I think HRB was just as good, never had a bad workout with it.

    I've been using FocusXT lately because I don't need any pump component while I'm on cycle. It's a pretty cool supp but I like it for brain power/mood at work better than for preworkout though.
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    You should try Lucidrol, man. It's very nice stuff, and stacks literally with anything, from a cup of coffee, to your favorite pre-workout, to a can of redbull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    YEAH RIGHT-SAY THAT WHEN YOU HIT 50, LOL.
    I sure hope to..
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    If you guys weren't aware, this flavor (new fruit punch) is on sale at nutra for $12. That's so cheap! Make sure you order up!
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