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    LG Science's Natadrol and Psarm
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    I have a push pull competition on March 13th so my training over the next couple weeks will be pretty unorthodox. I have been training this way for almost two years now so I should be able to tell any differences that the LG supplements bring to the table.
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    I no longer count the exact macro nutrients because I have been following the diet for 18 months, but I can assure you that I am eating between 3000-3500kcals a day and only getting about 30-50g's of carbs a day which has seemed to work best for me.
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    Natadrol
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    Muscle Pharm's Assault / Bullet Proof as needed.
    Stats/Goals
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    230
    Bench- 500 competition from 10/09 - Goal of 550
    Deadlift - 565 competition from 10/09 - Goal of 600

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    Final Review


    Final Review
    Strength - Strength went up during the cycle but only slightly quicker than normal. I will say this would be good for someone who hasn't made progress in a while but if your consistently gaining strength your not going to notice a huge increase but you will be able to notice a slight increase.

    Weight Gain / Loss - 231 - This stack was awesome for leaning out. I ate well above maintenance while on this stack and my weight stayed about the same but I lost just about an inch on my waist over the cycle. If you were actually try to cut on this cycle you would definitely get amazing results.

    Side Effects - None to note, no stomach issues, acme, oily skin, sore joints, etc. Very mild product.

    Shutdown - No evidence of shutdown what so ever. No blood work but empirical evidence leads me to believe I did not suffer any negative hormonal effects from the products.

    Mood - No changes to mood or aggression

    Other - It will take some time to find your perfect dosing but once you do this is a nice mild stack to help you lean up and keep your strength moving. If I were to run the products again I would definitely run them at a much higher dose, but I am also 230lbs so your mileage may vary.
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    Day 1


    I started the Natadrol and Psarm today. The Natadrol will be dosed at 6 pills a day (2-2-2) with meals and the Psarm is going to be dosed at 4 pills per day ( 1-1-2). Today is my off day of the week so all I did was some mobility work and stretching. I will probably do some very high rep movements with a light band later on just to get some blood pumping to help my recovery. Tomorrow morning is a deadlift day so I am making sure I'm fully rested for that session.
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    Cool deal, currious how this works out for you. Good luck with it Paul.
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    Hey LG reps, Should I be taking 2 Psarms before my workout or should that dose always be with the last meal of the day?
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    Day 2 - Deadlifts


    Training
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    Warm Ups
    405 x 1 x1
    455 x 1
    495 x 1
    545 x 1 Suit Straps Up <-- Opener
    585 x 1 Suit Straps Up <-- Second Attempt

    Front Squats
    135 x5
    185 x 5
    225 x 3
    275 x 1

    Bent Rows
    185 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10
    Ab Wheel x many

    LG Stack
    Strength - No noticeable difference yet
    Vascularity - Minor Increase
    Endurance - Recovery between sets felt good
    Mood / Mental - Little out of it but I attribute that to many things.
    Stomach - No Issues with either product yet.
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    Killing it man..! glad to see no stomach issues also!
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    Pmiller, did you get pounded by that snow storm? I talked to a few friends in NY, they said they got almost 3 feet of snow! time for some Rocky traning
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftergym33 View Post
    Pmiller, did you get pounded by that snow storm? I talked to a few friends in NY, they said they got almost 3 feet of snow! time for some Rocky traning
    No, I only ended up with like 5-6' of snow here so its really nothing. I think the eastern end of the state got the majority of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmiller383 View Post
    No, I only ended up with like 5-6' of snow here so its really nothing. I think the eastern end of the state got the majority of it.
    no kidding? dam you lucked out
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    Day 3 + Day 4


    2/28 Training
    Bench
    Warm Ups
    245 x 3
    295 x 3
    335 x 3
    385 x 1
    Add Shirt
    425 x 1 3 board
    475 x 1 2 board
    515 x 1 1 board
    515 x 1 Chest
    (Shirt is still way to loose, but all reps were good)

    Incline Dumbbell Presses
    95's x 12 x 12 x 12 x 12

    Body Weight Extensions
    5 sets of 12

    Fat Man Rows
    4 sets of 12

    Reverse Pec Deck
    145 x 12 x 12 x 12 x 12
    3/1 Training
    4 Way Neck Machine
    Ton of sets each different way

    Eliptical - 20 minutes - Heart Rate 130 - 150

    Cable Rows
    160 x 10 x 10 x 10

    Lat Pulldowns w. Scapular retractions
    180 x 12 x 12 x 12 x 12

    Tricep Extensions
    80 x 25 x 25 x 25

    LG Stack
    Strength - No noticeable effects yet.
    Vascularity - The products seems to have a diuretic effect because I am noticing some extra definition and seeing some veins that I haven't seen in a while.
    Mood/Mental - No noticeable difference
    Recovery - Definitely seems to be up. I took some relatively heavy lifts this weekend and I'm really not feeling beat up or run down at all. Sleep has been pretty stellar the last couple nights as well. I will probably take some Bullet Proof tonight to get ready for tomorrows session though.
    Pump - I really don't like getting a pump but today I definitely got a pretty big pump in just about my whole lower body from the cardio and I could barely straighten my arms after the tricep extensions.
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    Pmiller- Awesome lifts man, 515lb on Bench? your a beast,
    I like what I'm hearing about Vascularity, have you been pissing more then usual?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftergym33 View Post
    Pmiller- Awesome lifts man, 515lb on Bench? your a beast,
    I like what I'm hearing about Vascularity, have you been pissing more then usual?
    I usually piss about a hundred times a day any ways because I stay pretty hydrated so I really haven't noticed a difference in frequency.
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    sweet lifts, those are impressive loads. Only up to day 4 and I like what I hear. Keep it up. Looks like after this log Ill have to make the decision of either Natadrol or Trifecta.
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    Day 5


    Dynamic Lower Body
    Speed Squats - 15' Box
    145 x 2
    215 x 2
    265 x 2
    305 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2
    325 x 2
    375 x 1

    Safety Squat Bar to Foam - Hands Off Bar
    260 x 10 x 10 x 5 x 5

    Swings
    50 x 15 x15 x 15 x 15

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    LG Stack
    Strength - Felt good today, definitely one of my better workouts
    Energy / Endurance - I could have kept going all day if it wasn't for the humongous back pump I got after the squatting.
    Mental / Mood - No Effect either way
    Appetite - Actually has been a bit low the past two days, definitely not what I was expecting.
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    Dynamic Upper Body
    Speed Bench Against 150-170 lbs of Band Tension
    135 x 3
    185 x 3 x 3 x 3 x 3 x 3 x 3 x 3 x 3

    Overhead Press with Fat Gripz
    135 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10

    T Bar Rows W/ Fat Gripz
    135 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10

    Overhead Extensions
    100 total - pretty light

    LG Stack
    Strength - Definitely starting to notice a little improvement
    Endurance - I was absolutely shot after benching today, those bands kicked my @ss
    Pump - Another massive back pump today along with a good tricep and shoulder pump
    Vascularity - Very pronounced in my forearms today
    Mood / Mental - Motivation is definitely up a bit
    Recovery - The products are really helping me recover and that is hugely important to me right now because a lot of the stuff I'm doing is rough on the CNS.
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    Can you give us a start weight and then updates as you go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalGear View Post
    Can you give us a start weight and then updates as you go?
    Sorry about that LG, I haven't really tracked the pound on the scale yet as I usually only weigh myself weekly. As stated in the first post I started the log at 230, as of this morning I am down 2 pounds sitting at 228. I am eating about 750 - 1000 extra calories on my lifting days which puts me at about 4200kcals. I'm sure the bit of weight loss is due water because as I stated earlier in the thread I definitely notice a significant diuretic effect from the product. I hoping you guys will be at the Arnold because Im thinking about picking up another bottle or two of natadrol and running this log for a full 5-6 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmiller383 View Post
    Sorry about that LG, I haven't really tracked the pound on the scale yet as I usually only weigh myself weekly. As stated in the first post I started the log at 230, as of this morning I am down 2 pounds sitting at 228. I am eating about 750 - 1000 extra calories on my lifting days which puts me at about 4200kcals. I'm sure the bit of weight loss is due water because as I stated earlier in the thread I definitely notice a significant diuretic effect from the product. I hoping you guys will be at the Arnold because Im thinking about picking up another bottle or two of natadrol and running this log for a full 5-6 weeks.
    5-6 weeks huh?
    I heard optimal results would be seen on an 8week cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo14 View Post
    5-6 weeks huh?
    I heard optimal results would be seen on an 8week cycle?
    It can be ran up to 8 weeks, but a 5-6 week run at a high dose should be sweet also...!

    Funny how your appetite is low, mine was huge in the morning when I first woke up.. which was very strange for me..im not a huge eater in the morning
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    Mid-Arnold Update


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    315 x 3
    365 x 3
    405 x 1 x 1
    455 x 1
    495 x 1
    545 x 1 <-- Opener next week, went up easy

    KB Swings
    76 x 15 x 15 x 15 x 15

    Bent Rows
    225 x 10 x 10
    315 x 10 x 10

    Pull Downs
    160 x 12 x 12 x 12

    CSR
    180 x 10
    135 x 15
    135 x 15

    LG Stack
    Strength - Felt Really good even after a long day of traveling and poor eating,
    Endurance - My workout went so quck that it was like a giant superset but I had no problem keeping up with that.
    Weight - 231 - Nice bloat going on right now because of how my diet was on my traveling day. Still feeling pretty full though and vascularity is still increased
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    Training
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    225 x 3
    275 x 1
    315 x 1
    365 x 1
    405 x 1 <-- Super Easy, the lightest its felt in a while

    Lat Pulldowns
    100 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10

    Machine Close Grip Presses
    100 x 15 x 15 x 15

    Dips
    BW x 40

    LG Stack
    Strength - All reps felt really good today, I was going to stop at 365 today because that will be my last warmup on saturday but it felt like the bar was unloaded so I took 1 more rep.
    Vascularity - Not as evident as it was last week, but that could just be the diuretic effect that I first noticed starting to level off.
    Recovery/Endurance - Despite having a rough weekend I feel pretty good. I have noticed that I have not had any DOMS since starting the stack.
    Mental/Mood - Pretty run down mentally today, no alpha male feeling or anything like that from the product so far.
    Libido - The stack hasn't really had much of an affect on my libido, it may be a tad bit elevated after taking the two psarms but outside of that I haven't noticed anything
    Weight - 229 I have been eating about an extra 500 - 750 kcals a day but have not noticed much in the way of weight gain. Do feel a bit leaner though which is exactly what I was going for.
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    Sounds great bud... any signs of shut down from the ND?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftergym33 View Post
    Sounds great bud... any signs of shut down from the ND?
    No, nothing like that as of now.
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    well thats good!...whens your comp coming up again? you were getting ready for correct?..my mind playing games..old age i think lol
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    Its this Saturday, it is just a bench and deadlift meet though.
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    I wish 405x1 on bench felt super easy for me... actually I wish it felt super difficult even. 405x1 feeling like anything but death sounds great to me. hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmiller383 View Post
    Its this Saturday, it is just a bench and deadlift meet though.
    Well, Best of luck to you man!

    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    I wish 405x1 on bench felt super easy for me... actually I wish it felt super difficult even. 405x1 feeling like anything but death sounds great to me. hahaha
    No kidding, I maxed out at 290 last week, my nut about shot across the gym..dude said try 300, my head went
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    Tuesdays Training
    Free Squats
    145 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 8
    Hip Swings
    50 x 12 x 12 x 12 x 12
    Backward Sled Drags
    Wednesday Training
    Dynamic Bench Focusing on set up and form
    185 x 3 x 3 x 3 x 3 x 3 x 3 x 3 x 3 x 3
    Face Pulls
    80 x 20 x 20 x 20
    Foam Rolling and Stretching

    These two sessions were just done to keep blood flowing and loosen me up for the weekend. The next two days will just be stretching and relaxing. Still undecided if I want to cut weight or not, it will be a decision to make tomorrow night.

    LG Stack
    Weight = 231 . Eating like a mad man the past few days and it seems that my waist is not getting bloated like it normally would.

    Strength - Although these sessions were both very very light they felt great.

    Recovery - Decent, still some aches and pains but no real doms from any training.

    Mental/Mood - Starting to force myself to get confident for the weekend, I have been in a pretty chill mood though lately. No aggression what so ever.

    Digestion - No stomach issues yet, but I having more bm's than usual over the past 4 days. I am guessing that is due to the increased metabolism from the product.
  

  
 

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