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    To echo what Big T said (or at least part of it) I'm going to start using Somnidren pre workout with a stim. I've taken 6 doses over about 2 weeks and notice only a small increase in sleep quality. I can feel the product working as it makes me feel really mellow but focused at the same time, just not real sleepy. Is it possible that I might need to up the dosage to 1.5 or 2 scoops when using it to sleep? Now to the good part. I swear that the Somnidren makes sex much better and more pleasurable. 3 of the 6 times I've taken it the wife and I have "tested" my theory and I'm telling you there is something going on for sure. Anyway, bottom line for me is I have not noticed the deeper sleep (I should mention I'm a pretty good sleeper for the most part anyway) but I LOVE the mellow focus the product gives. I think Big T is on to something with his preworkout empty stomach dosing protocol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTDeuce View Post
    bet you're tracking down a lot more balls on sundays huh?
    very true! the focus is unreal, it's like the ball is the size of a beach ball- the anticipation is also very good, it's like i am moving to where they hit the ball before they even hit it. no doubt about it i am very impressed with somnidren! not to mention the great sleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    very true! the focus is unreal, it's like the ball is the size of a beach ball- the anticipation is also very good, it's like i am moving to where they hit the ball before they even hit it. no doubt about it i am very impressed with somnidren! not to mention the great sleep.
    same here s-gh is impressive. It feels so good to get that quality sleep wake up feeling like a million bucks
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    Quote Originally Posted by smeton_yea View Post
    same here s-gh is impressive. It feels so good to get that quality sleep wake up feeling like a million bucks
    imo, this product is underrated. it has actually outperformed what i had expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    imo, this product is underrated. it has actually outperformed what i had expected.
    we agree on somnidren-gh's performance then. It is a well put together formula

    I like it better than phenibut alone.
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    Very nice T!!! haha i love the enthusiasm of T with the MST products!!!! Sounds like myself hahah!!!! GAAAAA DAAAAAAAAAM haha
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    Gratz on the progress man!! Don't know whether to be bummed I'm old enough to know what Jefferson Airplane is or happy that I know what it is. I have to agree with you guys, it's a great supp. Currently, it's helping me sleep during this month of working nights, lets me sleep effortlessly during the daylight. Trying to use up my 2 tubs of it so I can try the new version!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by smeton_yea View Post
    we agree on somnidren-gh's performance then. It is a well put together formula

    I like it better than phenibut alone.
    duece said there isn't that much phenibut in it. besides phenibut doesn't raise hgh so that's another plus of somnidren over phenibut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaelael View Post
    Very nice T!!! haha i love the enthusiasm of T with the MST products!!!! Sounds like myself hahah!!!! GAAAAA DAAAAAAAAAM haha
    mst is doing good things, no doubt. but somnidren is my favorite-love this stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by subweevil View Post
    Gratz on the progress man!! Don't know whether to be bummed I'm old enough to know what Jefferson Airplane is or happy that I know what it is. I have to agree with you guys, it's a great supp. Currently, it's helping me sleep during this month of working nights, lets me sleep effortlessly during the daylight. Trying to use up my 2 tubs of it so I can try the new version!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by suncloud View Post
    i'm beginning to regret that i didn't offer to log this. still, my log is rewarding in its own right
    somnidren is getting my vote as a VERY solid product.
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    oooooooo BIG T and his SOMI!!! hahah i don't think N e enjoys this product more than you big man!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaelael View Post
    oooooooo BIG T and his SOMI!!! hahah i don't think N e enjoys this product more than you big man!!!
    i have to admit, i am enjoying the hell out of somnidren.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTDeuce View Post
    everythings looking super awesome in here
    you know-it's very easy to log something you are truly enjoying/getting good results from. i started this log looking for better/easier sleep, and have gotten that plus a lot more. somnidren pre-cardio is superb!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    somnidren pre-cardio is superb!
    im starting a log today for a buddy of mine who's a myogenix rep and I just dosed 1/2 scoop s-gh, 4 nitroceps, 4 cre-02, and 1 oep. hahahhaa....its going to be a fun workout
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    good to hear its workin so well for you, we aim to please!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTDeuce View Post
    im starting a log today for a buddy of mine who's a myogenix rep and I just dosed 1/2 scoop s-gh, 4 nitroceps, 4 cre-02, and 1 oep. hahahhaa....its going to be a fun workout
    best workout i had was scoop rag ultra, 2 oep and a half scoop somnidren! your line up looks very good-give it hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bnatural View Post
    good to hear its workin so well for you, we aim to please!
    somnidren kicks asss.
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    Tried 1/2 scoop of Somnidren w/ 1 serving of 1-C (took both sublingual) and had a nice workout minus the heavy sweating which is not normal for me. I was sweating so hard you would have thought I was a pedophile at a kids playground. I will have to try Somnidren by itself to compare the workout results. Gonna try the new formula tonight with some ZMK to see how sleep goes compared to the old formula.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svtfocusman View Post
    Tried 1/2 scoop of Somnidren w/ 1 serving of 1-C (took both sublingual) and had a nice workout minus the heavy sweating which is not normal for me. I was sweating so hard you would have thought I was a pedophile at a kids playground. I will have to try Somnidren by itself to compare the workout results. Gonna try the new formula tonight with some ZMK to see how sleep goes compared to the old formula.
    wow-you took half dose of somnidren AND a scoop of 1-c pre-workout with no stim? i would have been too sluggish-i don't think that's a good idea, imo.
    maybe if you added some stims...
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    Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    Ok, have 2 somnidren gh and 1 caf free ragnorak coming because when thebigt says it's good, I believe it...how do you recommend I take it?
    use it in half doses, under tongue. and you are right-i highly endorse somnidren. to bad you got the caf free rag, half a scoop of som with a scoop of rag is great pre-workout. when you use it for sleep take it about 45 minutes before bed-you may be different but this works best for me-don't forget under tongue is the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    Gotcha, I get enough caffiene throughout my day, didn't really need more...
    very nice, i think you are going to really like this. i have a script for klonipin that i use in case of emergencies and somnidren is similar in effect. i am a diagnosed insomniac, and somnidren puts me out-it's that freaking good. best damned otc sleep aid ive ever tried!
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    Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    I can't wait...you using the new version, right? With the 99% l dopa?
    yup, that's the one. i found it to be much improved over the old formula that i used in the past-and i thought the old formula was pretty damned good, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    How's the ragnorak? Seems like a solid product, but alot of these preworkout n.o. creatine combos leave an aftertaste that lasts that I don't care for, I hope it's not too bad...I plan to mix it with my blue raz monster amino I have just sitting there...it's got bcaas, p5p, and waxy maize...I think it will be a solid mix...I will run that with my gplc to see if my skin will burst from the pump...i won't mix the monster amino when I dose the som due to the carbs...
    the rag tastes great, and yes-don't take carbs close to somnidren. how is the gplc treating you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    Honestly, I haven't tried it, I am a huge fan of the carnitine molecule...plcar especially...HUGE fan...I also like plcar with lower dose l-carnitine...I ordered 5 packs of pp's 90 cap packs because I have been waiting to get my hands on gplc...I have been waiting until the right time and I think we are getting close...I have been using rpn's plcar with Gatorade and it's literally been phenomenal...
    i use lclt all the time now, plcar occassionally. never tried gplc yet.
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    I find switching it up sometimes like some days doing 1/3 under the tongue and some days doing a full serving can be fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by smeton_yea View Post
    I find switching it up sometimes like some days doing 1/3 under the tongue and some days doing a full serving can be fun
    absolutely! been using 3 on 1 off and i really miss it on off days-really a great pre-cardio supplement. i have been using ragnarok ultra on days i don't take somnidren, and on these days i lift instead of long duration cardio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    absolutely! been using 3 on 1 off and i really miss it on off days-really a great pre-cardio supplement. i have been using ragnarok ultra on days i don't take somnidren, and on these days i lift instead of long duration cardio.
    good plan! I just finished a tub of Rok Ultra and have actually switched to Cre-02/Nitroceps. Oh dude....wait til you try that combo out, haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTDeuce View Post
    good plan! I just finished a tub of Rok Ultra and have actually switched to Cre-02/Nitroceps. Oh dude....wait til you try that combo out, haha
    when did you send them, lol. i have tried them in sample packs, and got good workouts in-but i am sure the effects would be better after a week of steady dosing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    when did you send them, lol. i have tried them in sample packs, and got good workouts in-but i am sure the effects would be better after a week of steady dosing.
    seriously....you'd be SHOCKED.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTDeuce View Post
    seriously....you'd be SHOCKED.
    that good, huh?
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    Upped the dosage of Somnidren last night to 1.5 scoops sublingual, still did not notice being drowsy but was relaxed. Sleep was awesome, very little tossing and turning (unusual for me) and woke up very refreshed. I'm tipping the scales at 227 right now so I may have found the sweet spot for my sleep, 1 scoop is good for relaxation IMO. Have yet to try preworkout, will get to that soon. You may have mentioned this, but have to tried the Somnidren and Rag together Big T?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blutarski View Post
    Upped the dosage of Somnidren last night to 1.5 scoops sublingual, still did not notice being drowsy but was relaxed. Sleep was awesome, very little tossing and turning (unusual for me) and woke up very refreshed. I'm tipping the scales at 227 right now so I may have found the sweet spot for my sleep, 1 scoop is good for relaxation IMO. Have yet to try preworkout, will get to that soon. You may have mentioned this, but have to tried the Somnidren and Rag together Big T?
    yeah, i did once and got crazy good tingles-i loved it. but i have been saving the rag for off days of somnidren. i don't really like the effect of somnidren on lifiting days, so that's when i use the rag. i found the somnidren to be fantastic for cardio-try it!
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    BigT..you on the Rag??
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    BigT..you on the Rag??
    you bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    Took half dose of the som last night under the tongue...good stuff...slept great, woke up refreshed...legs got weak in the shower...played video games for about an hour, then drifted in weird dreamland...so far so good, looking forward to tonight...love the fact that it is produced in a cgmp facility...makes my day...
    i have had a great experience on somnidren-my only complaint is i will soon run out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    Took half dose of the som last night under the tongue...good stuff...slept great, woke up refreshed...legs got weak in the shower...played video games for about an hour, then drifted in weird dreamland...so far so good, looking forward to tonight...love the fact that it is produced in a cgmp facility...makes my day...
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