Ultima Warrior - Log

[Royd The Noyd]

Coming soon...

[Royd The Noyd]

The goal is your basic recomp.

The Diet is a basic cross between UD 2.0 and temporal nutrition. Essentially I allow myself CHO for breakfast, lunch, and then again pwo. But they are minimal. After my Thursday workout I allow myself an unlimited amount of CHO while maintaining the PRO levels I normally would throughout the week.

I'll post more specifics to the diet as the log progress.

The workout is as follows...


Week - Every workout starts with 5 minutes warm up on a stationary bike
Mon - Time under tension goal is 45 seconds min. Rest between sets is limited to 45-60 seconds. Peak contractions and burns used
Tues - Time under tension goal is 45 seconds min. Rest between sets is limited to 45-60 seconds. Peak contractions and burns used
Wed - 45 minutes of low intensity cardio (incline treadmill walking). Followed by core work, abs, and stretching.
Thurs - Depletion Day. Matching color lifts indicate they are supersetted with no rest. Rest between sets is 60-90 seconds.
Fri - Off Day, stretching only
Sat - Strength Focus. 90-150 seconds rest between each set. Slow eccentric, explosive concentric - 4010
Sun - 45 minutes of low intensity cardio (incline treadmill walking). Followed by core work, abs, and stretching.

[Royd The Noyd]

Obviously this log will be dedicated more too Ultima feedback. I will comment on everything I can and provide as detailed and unbiased feedback as possible. I used 1 scoop today. Here are my initial thoughts:

I mixed my first scoop in about 10 oz of water. Its orange with a strong red hew. Kind of looks like poison! But obviously much better. I think transx said it best about the taste and I agree with him 100%:

its like a water downed orange juice / mountain dew combo.

I also didnt mind the taste. Even holding it under my tongue to improve absorption (as directed by the instructions) did not bother me.

I cannot say that after 1 dose I experienced any increase in stamina or strength. However I felt more alert mentally. I've been stimulant free for just over 7 days now so it was nice to clear up some of the cloudiness. I also seemed to have a good mind - muscle connection. More feedback to come as I get more familiar with the product.

[bassgod272]

Subbed. I'm interested in this as the ingredient profile looks great!

[Royd The Noyd]

Today was the 2nd day. I dosed 1 full scoop (or just shy of 1 full scoop) split pre/intra workout.

I hit legs hard with high reps today. I had a ****ty day at work and felt pretty lethargic. Needless to say once I started warming up on the stationary bike I felt better. Some noticeable events:

• Sweat a lot today. It is warmer here though
• Although my muscles felt tired mentally I felt ready to knock out those last few reps on each set
• Towards the end of the workout I got a small headache in my left brain area
• PWO the headache moved to the front of my head
• Felt some dizziness pwo. It was likely just a hard workout
• I noticed my urine is a softer yellow the first time I urinate after using Ultima

Overall I felt pretty good today. The headache was not at all severe. Think of a common headache you would get after doing lots of squats and lunges and thats basically what it was...

[gmc4180]

Today was the 2nd day. I dosed 1 full scoop (or just shy of 1 full scoop) split pre/intra workout.

I hit legs hard with high reps today. I had a ****ty day at work and felt pretty lethargic. Needless to say once I started warming up on the stationary bike I felt better. Some noticeable events:

• Sweat a lot today. It is warmer here though
• Although my muscles felt tired mentally I felt ready to knock out those last few reps on each set
• Towards the end of the workout I got a small headache in my left brain area
• PWO the headache moved to the front of my head
• Felt some dizziness pwo. It was likely just a hard workout
• I noticed my urine is a softer yellow the first time I urinate after using Ultima

Overall I felt pretty good today. The headache was not at all severe. Think of a common headache you would get after doing lots of squats and lunges and thats basically what it was...

Royd, I've been taking ULTIMA for about 2 weeks now. Keep toying with the dosages. You may need to scale back from a full scoop. It's THAT DAMN STRONG! I found my sweet spot dosing the way you are now. (1/2 scoop pre - 1/2 scoop intra). Alot of people are spliting 1 scoop in 1/4 dosages throughout the day.

I'll be following along. This supplement is something special. The best I've ever tried!

[Royd The Noyd]

Royd, I've been taking ULTIMA for about 2 weeks now. Keep toying with the dosages. You may need to scale back from a full scoop. It's THAT DAMN STRONG! I found my sweet spot dosing the way you are now. (1/2 scoop pre - 1/2 scoop intra). Alot of people are spliting 1 scoop in 1/4 dosages throughout the day.

I'll be following along. This supplement is something special. The best I've ever tried!

Good advice gmc. I'll keep toying with it.

[Hank Vangut]

ultima looks like an outstanding supp.

good luck noyd. hope it gives you a painted face with glitter on it...and blow dried long hair with tons of hairspray.
....and a bright orange tan.

[Orangepeel]

Sub'd - I was looking at this today and while it looked good, I was a bit skeptical - Omega claims that want to sell based on good products and not marketing, but I read the Ultima description and I'll be damned if they didn't out do USPlabs on the marketing end!

[gmc4180]

Sub'd - I was looking at this today and while it looked good, I was a bit skeptical - Omega claims that want to sell based on good products and not marketing, but I read the Ultima description and I'll be damned if they didn't out do USPlabs on the marketing end!

The writeup may seem a bit over the top, but you've never seen ingredients at dosages like this before.

Check out this chart. ULTIMA, which BTW you can buy direct at $49.99 would cost you OVER $20 MORE if you made this same concoction with BULK ingredients!



Not to mention the fact that I'm using it 2 weeks now and it's unlike anything else available. I'm down 7lbs since the start and up 15-20lbs across all compound lifts. Not something you would expect eating 500-800 calories below maintenance :clean:

[custom]

Sub'd - I was looking at this today and while it looked good, I was a bit skeptical - Omega claims that want to sell based on good products and not marketing, but I read the Ultima description and I'll be damned if they didn't out do USPlabs on the marketing end!

Can you let me know, specifically, what you take contention to?

It is indeed a marketing write up, but there are no claims of altering genetics, 30 pounds in 30 days or anything remotely like that.

[custom]

Royd, I've been taking ULTIMA for about 2 weeks now. Keep toying with the dosages. You may need to scale back from a full scoop. It's THAT DAMN STRONG! I found my sweet spot dosing the way you are now. (1/2 scoop pre - 1/2 scoop intra). Alot of people are spliting 1 scoop in 1/4 dosages throughout the day.

I'll be following along. This supplement is something special. The best I've ever tried!

Have you guys tried putting the powder directly under the tongue? Some people on other boards are doing this 1/4 or 1/2 scoop and absolutely loving it.

[Orangepeel]

Can you let me know, specifically, what you take contention to?

It is indeed a marketing write up, but there are no claims of altering genetics, 30 pounds in 30 days or anything remotely like that.

On your website:

-The entire first paragraph, and especially the fact that your product not only has a name, but a codename

-The entire section of "What if" questions.

-Trinitine, which is apparently the best creatine ever? But I've never heard of it, or of any creatine for that matter that truly out-performs Mono

-Also the whole add in general

-And MOST OF ALL, the spreadsheet showing me that it would cost $20 extra to buy in bulk and make this on my own, becuase OMEGA is a BUSINESS, you either make money, or go bye-bye. So either your making ULTIMA and selling for $20 under your cost (which your not, why would you?) or you found a way to skew that sheet in some manner, and I am very iffy of companys that skew info, especially supplement companies.

WITH THAT SAID

I still think your product is interesting, and may even buy it and find out on my own, but depending on which page I read on your website all the information is ass-backwards from the next page. The first thing I read was your company information, were I was informed:

"Founded in 2003 by current company president Matt Palada, Omega Sports® purposefully set out to be an anomaly in the sports nutrition marketplace. Instead of relaying on marketing hype, outrageous claims and dubious endorsements to sell products with the greatest profit margins available, Omega Sports® decided to develop the most technical, purest and effective products in existence based on the latest scientific information available and the direction of industry-leading experts."

Then I look at the ULTIMA write-up, and while the second bolded area may hold true, I now know for a fact your not so honest on the first, once again I am iffy of companies that aren't honest, especially supplement companies.

[custom]

On your website:

-The entire first paragraph, and especially the fact that your product not only has a name, but a codename

-The entire section of "What if" questions.

-Trinitine, which is apparently the best creatine ever? But I've never heard of it, or of any creatine for that matter that truly out-performs Mono

-Also the whole add in general

-And MOST OF ALL, the spreadsheet showing me that it would cost $20 extra to buy in bulk and make this on my own, becuase OMEGA is a BUSINESS, you either make money, or go bye-bye. So either your making ULTIMA and selling for $20 under your cost (which your not, why would you?) or you found a way to skew that sheet in some manner, and I am very iffy of companys that skew info, especially supplement companies.

WITH THAT SAID

I still think your product is interesting, and may even buy it and find out on my own, but depending on which page I read on your website all the information is ass-backwards from the next page. The first thing I read was your company information, were I was informed:

"Founded in 2003 by current company president Matt Palada, Omega Sports® purposefully set out to be an anomaly in the sports nutrition marketplace. Instead of relaying on marketing hype, outrageous claims and dubious endorsements to sell products with the greatest profit margins available, Omega Sports® decided to develop the most technical, purest and effective products in existence based on the latest scientific information available and the direction of industry-leading experts."

Then I look at the ULTIMA write-up, and while the second bolded area may hold true, I now know for a fact your not so honest on the first, once again I am iffy of companies that aren't honest, especially supplement companies.

The codename is because this is a follow up to our Cre-Ethyl Thunder product. However, as the product developed, I decided to call it ULTIMA instead of Thunder2.0 because the formula got so complex.

You have not heard of Trinitine because we, along with Zone Halo just patented it. It uses Magnesium Creatine Chelate, which is patented from Albion Labs and has been shown superior to creatine monohydrate for strength and LBM changes. You can google it, there is a ton of info on it. We then synthesized and patented Sodium creatine Chelate and Potassium Creatine Chelate to make Trinitine. If you are familiar with why Gatorade is superior to water and how the sodium/potassium pumps work in your body, you can see that this is not pulled out of thin air but based on real-world research.\

Trinitine is currently being evaluated for clinical study vs monohydrate and we are in talks of licensing it to other companies as well.

And I think you misunderstood the spreadsheet. those costs are not if you went to raw ingredient suppliers; they are if you had to buy all of the ingredients at retail to make your own ULTIMA. you know, like how some people do with EAA's or whatever generic stack they are trying to emulate. But since you cant go to a raw ingredient supplier, the analogy holds true for real-world comparisons.

So, all in all, I still ask you where my honesty on anything has been challenged.

[Orangepeel]

The codename is because this is a follow up to our Cre-Ethyl Thunder product. However, as the product developed, I decided to call it ULTIMA instead of Thunder2.0 because the formula got so complex.

You have not heard of Trinitine because we, along with Zone Halo just patented it. It uses Magnesium Creatine Chelate, which is patented from Albion Labs and has been shown superior to creatine monohydrate for strength and LBM changes. You can google it, there is a ton of info on it. We then synthesized and patented Sodium creatine Chelate and Potassium Creatine Chelate to make Trinitine. If you are familiar with why Gatorade is superior to water and how the sodium/potassium pumps work in your body, you can see that this is not pulled out of thin air but based on real-world research.\

Trinitine is currently being evaluated for clinical study vs monohydrate and we are in talks of licensing it to other companies as well.

And I think you misunderstood the spreadsheet. those costs are not if you went to raw ingredient suppliers; they are if you had to buy all of the ingredients at retail to make your own ULTIMA. you know, like how some people do with EAA's or whatever generic stack they are trying to emulate. But since you cant go to a raw ingredient supplier, the analogy holds true for real-world comparisons.

So, all in all, I still ask you where my honesty on anything has been challenged.

I'm sure there are plenty of reasons for everything on your webpage, I'm simply saying, read your ULTIMA description, and tell me that as a consumer you wouldn't be a little be leary of all the big words, "what ifs", PHD titles thrown around, spreadsheets and graphs etc. etc. etc. - You've got some serious marketing skills put to work in that description.

Maybe I'm just a little un easy becuase after reading you company profile her on AM, I thought your company sounded pretty legit, but your webpage reminds me of a few other hype companies, that LOVEEE the marketing involved in the industry!

[gmc4180]

Have you guys tried putting the powder directly under the tongue? Some people on other boards are doing this 1/4 or 1/2 scoop and absolutely loving it.

Nope haven't tried it yet, but I will.. God I love working out on ULTIMA

[WittyName]

I'm sure there are plenty of reasons for everything on your webpage, I'm simply saying, read your ULTIMA description, and tell me that as a consumer you wouldn't be a little be leary of all the big words, "what ifs", PHD titles thrown around, spreadsheets and graphs etc. etc. etc. - You've got some serious marketing skills put to work in that description.

Maybe I'm just a little un easy becuase after reading you company profile her on AM, I thought your company sounded pretty legit, but your webpage reminds me of a few other hype companies, that LOVEEE the marketing involved in the industry!

Understandable, but seriously Matt is a stand up guy, I ran a log for him way back this is a good company bro.

[bassgod272]

I'm sure there are plenty of reasons for everything on your webpage, I'm simply saying, read your ULTIMA description, and tell me that as a consumer you wouldn't be a little be leary of all the big words, "what ifs", PHD titles thrown around, spreadsheets and graphs etc. etc. etc. - You've got some serious marketing skills put to work in that description.

Maybe I'm just a little un easy becuase after reading you company profile her on AM, I thought your company sounded pretty legit, but your webpage reminds me of a few other hype companies, that LOVEEE the marketing involved in the industry!

Enough bickering, take up your issues with Omega directly via email or PM. Leave the bullshyt out of Royd's log. Have some respect, damn.

[Orangepeel]

Enough bickering, take up your issues with Omega directly via email or PM. Leave the bullshyt out of Royd's log. Have some respect, damn.

Take your comments elsewhere bud, there is no bickering here. Matt asked a question regarding a post I made which quite a few members have PM'ed or repped and agreed with, I answered his quetion with my thoughts.

I have mentioned more than once that his product looked great, and I still do think that.

This is a forum buddy, your SUPPOSED to ask question, and air your thoughts! Unlike some members, I'm not here to ride every company owners nuts, and hope for free products in return.

[Nabisco]

I'm here to provide free hugs for those that didn't get enough as children.