Coming soon...
I also didnt mind the taste. Even holding it under my tongue to improve absorption (as directed by the instructions) did not bother me.its like a water downed orange juice / mountain dew combo.
Royd, I've been taking ULTIMA for about 2 weeks now. Keep toying with the dosages. You may need to scale back from a full scoop. It's THAT DAMN STRONG! I found my sweet spot dosing the way you are now. (1/2 scoop pre - 1/2 scoop intra). Alot of people are spliting 1 scoop in 1/4 dosages throughout the day.Today was the 2nd day. I dosed 1 full scoop (or just shy of 1 full scoop) split pre/intra workout.
I hit legs hard with high reps today. I had a shitty day at work and felt pretty lethargic. Needless to say once I started warming up on the stationary bike I felt better. Some noticeable events:
- Sweat a lot today. It is warmer here though
- Although my muscles felt tired mentally I felt ready to knock out those last few reps on each set
- Towards the end of the workout I got a small headache in my left brain area
- PWO the headache moved to the front of my head
- Felt some dizziness pwo. It was likely just a hard workout
- I noticed my urine is a softer yellow the first time I urinate after using Ultima
Overall I felt pretty good today. The headache was not at all severe. Think of a common headache you would get after doing lots of squats and lunges and thats basically what it was...
Good advice gmc. I'll keep toying with it.Royd, I've been taking ULTIMA for about 2 weeks now. Keep toying with the dosages. You may need to scale back from a full scoop. It's THAT DAMN STRONG! I found my sweet spot dosing the way you are now. (1/2 scoop pre - 1/2 scoop intra). Alot of people are spliting 1 scoop in 1/4 dosages throughout the day.
I'll be following along. This supplement is something special. The best I've ever tried!
The writeup may seem a bit over the top, but you've never seen ingredients at dosages like this before.Sub'd - I was looking at this today and while it looked good, I was a bit skeptical - Omega claims that want to sell based on good products and not marketing, but I read the Ultima description and I'll be damned if they didn't out do USPlabs on the marketing end!
Can you let me know, specifically, what you take contention to?Sub'd - I was looking at this today and while it looked good, I was a bit skeptical - Omega claims that want to sell based on good products and not marketing, but I read the Ultima description and I'll be damned if they didn't out do USPlabs on the marketing end!
Royd, I've been taking ULTIMA for about 2 weeks now. Keep toying with the dosages. You may need to scale back from a full scoop. It's THAT DAMN STRONG! I found my sweet spot dosing the way you are now. (1/2 scoop pre - 1/2 scoop intra). Alot of people are spliting 1 scoop in 1/4 dosages throughout the day.
I'll be following along. This supplement is something special. The best I've ever tried!
On your website:Can you let me know, specifically, what you take contention to?
It is indeed a marketing write up, but there are no claims of altering genetics, 30 pounds in 30 days or anything remotely like that.
On your website:
-The entire first paragraph, and especially the fact that your product not only has a name, but a codename
-The entire section of "What if" questions.
-Trinitine, which is apparently the best creatine ever? But I've never heard of it, or of any creatine for that matter that truly out-performs Mono
-Also the whole add in general
-And MOST OF ALL, the spreadsheet showing me that it would cost $20 extra to buy in bulk and make this on my own, becuase OMEGA is a BUSINESS, you either make money, or go bye-bye. So either your making ULTIMA and selling for $20 under your cost (which your not, why would you?) or you found a way to skew that sheet in some manner, and I am very iffy of companys that skew info, especially supplement companies.
WITH THAT SAID
I still think your product is interesting, and may even buy it and find out on my own, but depending on which page I read on your website all the information is ass-backwards from the next page. The first thing I read was your company information, were I was informed:
"Founded in 2003 by current company president Matt Palada, Omega Sports® purposefully set out to be an anomaly in the sports nutrition marketplace. Instead of relaying on marketing hype, outrageous claims and dubious endorsements to sell products with the greatest profit margins available, Omega Sports® decided to develop the most technical, purest and effective products in existence based on the latest scientific information available and the direction of industry-leading experts."
Then I look at the ULTIMA write-up, and while the second bolded area may hold true, I now know for a fact your not so honest on the first, once again I am iffy of companies that aren't honest, especially supplement companies.
I'm sure there are plenty of reasons for everything on your webpage, I'm simply saying, read your ULTIMA description, and tell me that as a consumer you wouldn't be a little be leary of all the big words, "what ifs", PHD titles thrown around, spreadsheets and graphs etc. etc. etc. - You've got some serious marketing skills put to work in that description.The codename is because this is a follow up to our Cre-Ethyl Thunder product. However, as the product developed, I decided to call it ULTIMA instead of Thunder2.0 because the formula got so complex.
You have not heard of Trinitine because we, along with Zone Halo just patented it. It uses Magnesium Creatine Chelate, which is patented from Albion Labs and has been shown superior to creatine monohydrate for strength and LBM changes. You can google it, there is a ton of info on it. We then synthesized and patented Sodium creatine Chelate and Potassium Creatine Chelate to make Trinitine. If you are familiar with why Gatorade is superior to water and how the sodium/potassium pumps work in your body, you can see that this is not pulled out of thin air but based on real-world research.\
Trinitine is currently being evaluated for clinical study vs monohydrate and we are in talks of licensing it to other companies as well.
And I think you misunderstood the spreadsheet. those costs are not if you went to raw ingredient suppliers; they are if you had to buy all of the ingredients at retail to make your own ULTIMA. you know, like how some people do with EAA's or whatever generic stack they are trying to emulate. But since you cant go to a raw ingredient supplier, the analogy holds true for real-world comparisons.
So, all in all, I still ask you where my honesty on anything has been challenged.
Nope haven't tried it yet, but I will.. God I love working out on ULTIMAHave you guys tried putting the powder directly under the tongue? Some people on other boards are doing this 1/4 or 1/2 scoop and absolutely loving it.
Understandable, but seriously Matt is a stand up guy, I ran a log for him way back this is a good company bro.I'm sure there are plenty of reasons for everything on your webpage, I'm simply saying, read your ULTIMA description, and tell me that as a consumer you wouldn't be a little be leary of all the big words, "what ifs", PHD titles thrown around, spreadsheets and graphs etc. etc. etc. - You've got some serious marketing skills put to work in that description.
Maybe I'm just a little un easy becuase after reading you company profile her on AM, I thought your company sounded pretty legit, but your webpage reminds me of a few other hype companies, that LOVEEE the marketing involved in the industry!
Enough bickering, take up your issues with Omega directly via email or PM. Leave the bullshyt out of Royd's log. Have some respect, damn.I'm sure there are plenty of reasons for everything on your webpage, I'm simply saying, read your ULTIMA description, and tell me that as a consumer you wouldn't be a little be leary of all the big words, "what ifs", PHD titles thrown around, spreadsheets and graphs etc. etc. etc. - You've got some serious marketing skills put to work in that description.
Maybe I'm just a little un easy becuase after reading you company profile her on AM, I thought your company sounded pretty legit, but your webpage reminds me of a few other hype companies, that LOVEEE the marketing involved in the industry!
Take your comments elsewhere bud, there is no bickering here. Matt asked a question regarding a post I made which quite a few members have PM'ed or repped and agreed with, I answered his quetion with my thoughts.Enough bickering, take up your issues with Omega directly via email or PM. Leave the bullshyt out of Royd's log. Have some respect, damn.
I'll take three :lmao:I'm here to provide free hugs for those that didn't get enough as children. :usa2:
I've only used it Monday and Tuesday. Yesterday I just did some low intensity cardio, core, and grip work so I didn't feel the need to use it.I'll take three :lmao:
Anywaysssss, how the Ultima going Royd? I havn't seen much for updates.
The mountain climbers will also hit then. I have some heavy DOMS today from tuesday. Depending on my energy levels ill consider adding in some single leg squats, speed squats, and GHR's.Looks good Royd; however, I noticed you do no leg work, other than the slight recruitment in a push press, for depletion. How depleted can you get ignoring the largest muscles on your body?
True MC's would help.The mountain climbers will also hit then. I have some heavy DOMS today from tuesday. Depending on my energy levels ill consider adding in some single leg squats, speed squats, and GHR's.
I guess it will be a good test for ultima if I can get to those.
Yeah....My legs are toast right nao man. I'm probably gonna cop out of the big leg movements today. Plus my superset pairings were designed to be antagonistic. Which now that I think about it such a thing really isnt necessary on a depletion day. Hmmm...
What if to start the day I just did:
A1) Front Squat
A2) Push Press
I think I'll start with that.
Thats exactly what I was thinking. It will take some pretty quick hand adjustment mid movement though. I'll have to see...Yeah....
It you want to kick it up a notch do a hybrid lift.
Preform a front squat then at the top preform a push press = 1 rep;
Do, you use the arms crossed method for front squats? That would make things complicated...I would work on the snatch grip if possible....Thats exactly what I was thinking. It will take some pretty quick hand adjustment mid movement though. I'll have to see...
I can usually do the snatch for a set or two. Still working on shoulder/wrist flexibility to really get under it.Do, you use the arms crossed method for front squats? That would make things complicated...I would work on the snatch grip if possible....
I lack the wrist flexibility; however, when doing a front squat + push press combo it is much easier.I can usually do the snatch for a set or two. Still working on shoulder/wrist flexibility to really get under it.
Your blind? Thanks for stopping in brosefski. :bandit:How did i miss this bad boy? Looks good, bro. This ultima may be on my list of things to try.
I do seriously need new contact lenses. I should get lasik surgery done with the eye plan i have, but NOBODY is fukcing with a laser anywhere near my eyes! :hypnotized: :borladuck:Your blind? Thanks for stopping in brosefski. :bandit:
So are you ass kissing nao, or having a placebo off of mai placebo?Day 9 - 6th Time Dosing
Woot!
So today I dosed Ultima a bit differently. I drank/held 1 full scoop all pre-workout (instead of half pre, half intra). Thoughts:
Overall I really liked the mind muscle connection. This is the best day I've had in the gym while using Ultima thus far. Hopefully a good sign of things to come.
- Sweating is still insane. Thermogenic like.
- Mind Muscle connection was awesome today
- Strength up slightly
- Pump was good again (keep in mind carbs are limited so this is something)
Note: I was also excited as today I squated without using a box and for the first time in a long time had no SI joint irritation.
RH finally showered so you didn't smell his stanknessHow did i miss this bad boy? Looks good, bro. This ultima may be on my list of things to try.
WatIm in just to troll a bit and waiting for some RHoman shoulderz pics
True,it's a shamethey let just about anybody in here
that should be perfect for you managing your new girlfriend
- Perhaps a higher pain thresh hold
Or any woman for that matter.that should be perfect for you managing your new girlfriend
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