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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Nah, by abrogate I meant 'shut down' - in light of the gear-price talk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Perhaps that is the Canadian definition, but by the US Diction... I'm just kidding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Perhaps that is the Canadian definition, but by the US Diction... I'm just kidding.
    Perhaps you were thinking of 'subrogate' Volcom..
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    when are you jumping into the prime buddy?
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    Pre-Prime; Back


    Following this Pre-Prime Back workout should cover most of the basis as far as my general strength is concerned. If you look at my workout and wonder, where are all the horizontal movements? This has been thoroughly explained in post #77 (with the dead lift videos).

    This has been another bar raising workout. Again, I outperformed my standard performance. I'm thinking these new and improved strength gains are not only based off of the neuromuscular reconfigurations, but also, I went from 15 hour work days and 5-6 hours of sleep, to this Thanksgiving break with normal 6-7 hour work days and 8-10 hours of sleep. As a result, my workouts have been remarkably improving.

    At least we can safely assume that as a result of my strength mechanisms having already made much of its transition, that if I do make remarkable strength improvements throughout this run, we can accredit more of it to PRIME, then the natural transition of neuromuscular enhancements. Which admittedly, have been conflicting in previous logs. Most of my "major" jumps due to neuromuscular re-adaptions have occurred, therefore, in natural circumstances, my strength improvements ought to be very subtle from now on.

    Lat Pull Downs - Wide, overhand
    230lbs x 10 reps
    250lbs x 10 reps
    270lbs x 8 reps

    Lat Pull Downs - Close, Neutral grip
    210lbs x 10 reps
    230lbs x 8 reps
    250lbs x 6 reps

    Lat Pull Downs - Behind The Neck
    190lbs x 10 reps
    195lbs x 10 reps
    200lbs x 8 reps

    Body Weight Pull Ups - Wide, overhand
    BW x 10 reps
    BW x 10 reps
    BW x 8 reps

    Body Weight Pull Ups - Close, underhand
    BW x 8 reps
    BW x 8 reps
    BW x 8 reps

    Hammer Pull Downs - Behind The Neck
    180lbs x 10 reps
    200lbs x 10 reps
    230lbs x 8 reps

    I'd like to re-address the neuromuscular facets, as they are imperative to accurate measurements of PRIME's results (for me).

    I've "started" transitional logs, where day one of supplement X launched day 1 of going from moderate weight/high volume into heavy weight/moderate volume. The fault of this is, the first 3 weeks of this transition, where the body is re-adjusting to much heavier loads, A LOT of NATURAL neuromuscular occurrences take place that will have paramount influence over strength. Much more influential then any non-Rx PCT required supplement. The biggest jumps in strength normally occur within these initial 3 weeks. Therefore, I have ran logs where I was unsure where to accredit sudden jumps in strength, as I was very aware of potential natural occurrences in strength jumps, but not aware of how effective the supplements were and how much they played a role.

    All this to say, my major jumps in strength have already occurred for the most part, as I have been in this transitional stage for the past 3-4 weeks. Though they have been subtle transitions, meaning my rep range would go from 15-20 reps, all the way down to 6 reps, through 5-8 sets, as oppose to now, with a much more strength focused 10-6 reps, 3 sets.

    In conclusion, with the radical neuromuscular adjustments having already taken place, accrediting PRIME with "notable" strength gains, if any, will be an implication with greater integrity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inarius View Post
    when are you jumping into the prime buddy?
    As soon as it comes in. I ordered it Tuesday, but of course this was a Holiday week, so best case scenario, it comes in Monday and I start Tuesday, or it comes in Wednesday and I start Thursday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagency View Post
    Perhaps you were thinking of 'subrogate' Volcom..
    I must have been thinking along the lines of Mike Tyson's personal dictionary.

    "I'd just like to resspresitate that my defense is irrpregnable"
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Thanks for the input. However, I don't follow a regular routine. I may keep the same starting compound exercises for each muscle group, but beyond that, it's not much of a "routine," I generally mix things up from week to week. This is why the only strength PR's I like to measure are my starting compound movements, because the following exercises are not usually performed in the same order, if at all.
    excatly the same i only care about my bench squat and clean/jerk
    i could curl 100lb dumbells and not run any faster lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Following this Pre-Prime Back workout should cover most of the basis as far as my general strength is concerned. If you look at my workout and wonder, where are all the horizontal movements? This has been thoroughly explained in post #77 (with the dead lift videos).

    This has been another bar raising workout. Again, I outperformed my standard performance. I'm thinking these new and improved strength gains are not only based off of the neuromuscular reconfigurations, but also, I went from 15 hour work days and 5-6 hours of sleep, to this Thanksgiving break with normal 6-7 hour work days and 8-10 hours of sleep. As a result, my workouts have been remarkably improving.

    At least we can safely assume that as a result of my strength mechanisms having already made much of its transition, that if I do make remarkable strength improvements throughout this run, we can accredit more of it to PRIME, then the natural transition of neuromuscular enhancements. Which admittedly, have been conflicting in previous logs. Most of my "major" jumps due to neuromuscular re-adaptions have occurred, therefore, in natural circumstances, my strength improvements ought to be very subtle from now on.

    Lat Pull Downs - Wide, overhand
    230lbs x 10 reps
    250lbs x 10 reps
    270lbs x 8 reps

    Lat Pull Downs - Close, Neutral grip
    210lbs x 10 reps
    230lbs x 8 reps
    250lbs x 6 reps

    Lat Pull Downs - Behind The Neck
    190lbs x 10 reps
    195lbs x 10 reps
    200lbs x 8 reps

    Body Weight Pull Ups - Wide, overhand
    BW x 10 reps
    BW x 10 reps
    BW x 8 reps

    Body Weight Pull Ups - Close, underhand
    BW x 8 reps
    BW x 8 reps
    BW x 8 reps

    Hammer Pull Downs - Behind The Neck
    180lbs x 10 reps
    200lbs x 10 reps
    230lbs x 8 reps

    I'd like to re-address the neuromuscular facets, as they are imperative to accurate measurements of PRIME's results (for me).

    I've "started" transitional logs, where day one of supplement X launched day 1 of going from moderate weight/high volume into heavy weight/moderate volume. The fault of this is, the first 3 weeks of this transition, where the body is re-adjusting to much heavier loads, A LOT of NATURAL neuromuscular occurrences take place that will have paramount influence over strength. Much more influential then any non-Rx PCT required supplement. The biggest jumps in strength normally occur within these initial 3 weeks. Therefore, I have ran logs where I was unsure where to accredit sudden jumps in strength, as I was very aware of potential natural occurrences in strength jumps, but not aware of how effective the supplements were and how much they played a role.

    All this to say, my major jumps in strength have already occurred for the most part, as I have been in this transitional stage for the past 3-4 weeks. Though they have been subtle transitions, meaning my rep range would go from 15-20 reps, all the way down to 6 reps, through 5-8 sets, as oppose to now, with a much more strength focused 10-6 reps, 3 sets.

    In conclusion, with the radical neuromuscular adjustments having already taken place, accrediting PRIME with "notable" strength gains, if any, will be an implication with greater integrity.
    Good workout, glad to hear that you are seeing results in strength, took my the end of the 2nd week to start seeing strength results.
    doing my own thang!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    As soon as it comes in. I ordered it Tuesday, but of course this was a Holiday week, so best case scenario, it comes in Monday and I start Tuesday, or it comes in Wednesday and I start Thursday.
    ok bud. can't wait!
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    Good workout, glad to hear that you are seeing results in strength, took my the end of the 2nd week to start seeing strength results.
    I haven't started my PRIME yet. Not until next week. These are pre-cycle workouts to use as a base comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    excatly the same i only care about my bench squat and clean/jerk
    i could curl 100lb dumbells and not run any faster lol
    Do you play a sport? I'm a Certified Strength & Conditioning Specialist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Do you play a sport? I'm a Certified Strength & Conditioning Specialist.

    yes i play track and i wrestle, and after this year i will not be enrold in gonzaga so its all strength, i would rather be strong as hell with medium size then big as hell medium strength

    also i like your baseline workouts to compare to when your on prime
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagency View Post
    Perhaps you were thinking of 'subrogate' Volcom..
    I'm thinking "surrogate"!! ha ha
    THE PAIN YOU ENDURE TODAY WILL PRODUCE THE POWER YOU ENJOY TOMORROW!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    I haven't started my PRIME yet. Not until next week. These are pre-cycle workouts to use as a base comparison.
    Some people don't realize the gains they make without using supplements, I'm glad you've chosen to do this pre-Prime assessment phase
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Following this Pre-Prime Back workout should cover most of the basis as far as my general strength is concerned.

    I'm thinking these new and improved strength gains are not only based off of the neuromuscular reconfigurations, but also, I went from 15 hour work days and 5-6 hours of sleep, to this Thanksgiving break with normal 6-7 hour work days and 8-10 hours of sleep. As a result, my workouts have been remarkably improving.

    .

    Lat Pull Downs - Wide, overhand
    230lbs x 10 reps
    250lbs x 10 reps
    270lbs x 8 reps
    Great workout Big V!! It appears that Thomas and myself need to step it up a notch. You're breathing down our proverbial necks on those pulldowns! Way to go bro.

    And you really need to try and keep your sleep patterns more in line with this past week's protocol. We must have the proper amount of sleep if we are expecting strength increases and the subsequent muscle gains. Good luck in getting 8 hours per day. Maybe you need to sneak in power naps like I do.

    In the end, sleep is just as anabolic as food is. These 2 facets are the most crucial in our training. I feel that supplementation takes a back seat to these criteria.
    THE PAIN YOU ENDURE TODAY WILL PRODUCE THE POWER YOU ENJOY TOMORROW!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    I must have been thinking along the lines of Mike Tyson's personal dictionary.

    "I'd just like to resspresitate that my defense is irrpregnable"
    Classic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    Good workout, glad to hear that you are seeing results in strength, took my the end of the 2nd week to start seeing strength results.
    Damn.. always helps to follow the log there dood.. hence the caption of the post you refer to: Pre-Prime; Back.

    I guess this is how even quality logs are misinterpreted..
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    270 lat pull down, is that maxing out the machine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Some people don't realize the gains they make without using supplements, I'm glad you've chosen to do this pre-Prime assessment phase
    Pre-assessments have become "something I do" in all of my most recent logs. I first started that trend with the blue gene log and it made sense to me ever since.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emerge View Post
    270 lat pull down, is that maxing out the machine?
    No, maxed out would be 305 for our lat pull down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    Great workout Big V!! It appears that Thomas and myself need to step it up a notch. You're breathing down our proverbial necks on those pulldowns! Way to go bro.

    And you really need to try and keep your sleep patterns more in line with this past week's protocol. We must have the proper amount of sleep if we are expecting strength increases and the subsequent muscle gains. Good luck in getting 8 hours per day. Maybe you need to sneak in power naps like I do.

    In the end, sleep is just as anabolic as food is. These 2 facets are the most crucial in our training. I feel that supplementation takes a back seat to these criteria.
    My jacked up sleep patterns are life schedule enforced, rather then advocated. A "normal" day begins at 5:45am and doesn't end until 9:00-9:30pm. "Early days" where I'm free by 8:00pm is when I squeeze my workouts in during the week, or between the hours of 7:30am and 8:30 am, when I go from work place one at Peak Performance, to work place two at the Law Firm.

    My University was on Thanksgiving Break this past week, which is why I actually got to sleep in past 5:45am and it was wonderful.
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    Monday morning, here at the Firm. If I'm lucky, my PRIME will arrive this afternoon, otherwise, ETA could be as late as Wednesday.

    The houses on my street have been decorated with Christmas lights and Wal Mart has been playing Christmas music since November, so the "feeling" of Christmas is upon me. Traditionally, Christmas has always been the most depressing time of year for me, as a result of past relational "situations." My circumstance is the best it's been in years, this year, however, years of receiving Christmas time with misery seems like a hard emotional habit to break. I cringe when I hear Christmas music and I seem to automatically feel sad when I see Christmas lights because they are so engrafted to associate these times and images with unpleasant memories. Am I the only one who doesn't like Christmas time? Habits are hard to break.
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    Listen Volcom, this 'Buying People Useless Consumer Goods Day', you can forget your past Silent Nights and Jingle My Balls. I will play Santa Claus, you the Little Drummer Boy, and we will roast your chest-nuts on an open fire.
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    I love Christmas, just not the commercialism involved.

    Linus had it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Listen Volcom, this 'Buying People Useless Consumer Goods Day', you can forget your past Silent Nights and Jingle My Balls. I will play Santa Claus, you the Little Drummer Boy, and we will roast your chest-nuts on an open fire.
    I'm not quite sure what that smiley is or what it exactly means, but it seemed appropriate.
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    Get that prime on the road, im bored waiting....hehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    I'm not quite sure what that smiley is or what it exactly means, but it seemed appropriate.
    It looks like a penis with a Geisha wig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    Get that prime on the road, im bored waiting....hehe
    I know. I don't normally like to start logs too early, but I was anticipating the ar***** of my order by the end of last week, when I ordered it at the beginning of last week, when I realized, oh yeah, Thanksgiving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    I love Christmas, just not the commercialism involved.

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    This should be a great log... good idea doing the baseline before you start. Set the bar high and take no prisoners!!
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    To my pleasant surprise, yet not that surprised because it was anticipated, my PRIME as arrived today. This means tomorrow will mark day 1.

    The instructions say to take with food and that's how I'll dose it. There aren't any preferred macros are there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    This should be a great log... good idea doing the baseline before you start. Set the bar high and take no prisoners!!
    Thanks for the compliment and I never do!

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    wow...
    time for a new monitor volcom.
    anyway... lets get this shttt started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    To my pleasant surprise, yet not that surprised because it was anticipated, my PRIME as arrived today. This means tomorrow will mark day 1.

    The instructions say to take with food and that's how I'll dose it. There aren't any preferred macros are there?

    [IMG][/IMG]

    NIIIICE.....


    and so you kow I found it seemed my dosing and overall effects were more potent when dosed generously with fats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    NIIIICE.....


    and so you kow I found it seemed my dosing and overall effects were more potent when dosed generously with fats.
    BACOOOONNN!!!

    PS Poops - Every time I look at your Avitar - I think its you playin some Playstation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    NIIIICE.....


    and so you kow I found it seemed my dosing and overall effects were more potent when dosed generously with fats.
    Thanks for that piece of input. Time to stock up on cashews, peanuts, and avacadoes again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Thanks for that piece of input. Time to stock up on cashews, peanuts, and avacadoes again.
    Motherf*cker!!

    Did I studder?

    BACON!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberLakers View Post
    BACOOOONNN!!!

    PS Poops - Every time I look at your Avitar - I think its you playin some Playstation.
    Speaking of bacon, when I read about elite power lifters eating a pound of bacon with breakfast every morning, I think, wtf..... how does this guy not have a triple chin?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Speaking of bacon, when I read about elite power lifters eating a pound of bacon with breakfast every morning, I think, wtf..... how does this guy not have a triple chin?!?!
    Most of those guys do have a double chins...

    But anyway... seriously, bacon is a power food...
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