Well, it's not my first workout (with PRIME) yet. These are pre-Prime comparisons. Good workout, nonetheless.jesus man. first workout and youve already out done yourself. good luck topping this one :thumbsup:
Well, it's not my first workout (with PRIME) yet. These are pre-Prime comparisons. Good workout, nonetheless.jesus man. first workout and youve already out done yourself. good luck topping this one :thumbsup:
The latter bugs me the most, the first is usually a pleasant surprise. My flat bench was subpar for the longest time, prior to my week long rest and that'll break your spirits. I'm good now.Doesn't that almost sorta piss you off when you aren't in the mood to lift yet you totally crush everything?
...even worse is when you are totally amped to lift and then your strength ends up being sub-par.
I would like to RSVP that 12 cap IC dosing if it goes down.If I end up buying this crap, I'm going all-out and dosing it IC style: No less than 12 caps per day.
Of course stacked with an AI.
If you end up having good results, I can safely say that I will probably do it. Are there really any negative sides that would be associated with a high dose like that?I would like to RSVP that 12 cap IC dosing if it goes down.
severe change in wallet/checking account volume . .If you end up having good results, I can safely say that I will probably do it. Are there really any negative sides that would be associated with a high dose like that?
Haha. Ya, that's why I'm watching Volc's log, first. If it's worth it, I'll do it, but for a 30 day run @ $165, it better be pretty freaking amazing.severe change in wallet/checking account volume . .
.. Test E = ~$120 for 5 weeks. [cough, cough]Haha. Ya, that's why I'm watching Volc's log, first. If it's worth it, I'll do it, but for a 30 day run @ $165, it better be pretty freaking amazing.
I'll try and be as accurate as possible. Strength gains are much easier to gauge & track progress with validity then is tracking physiology.Mmmmm....Test Enanthate.....
....NO! NO, IC!
I hear what you're saying Viking, and I agree completely, which is why I'm waiting to see Volcom's run.
But I do have a mega-dosing habit...and it stemmed from AAS use. I don't dose Test under 1.5g/wk anymore...That is if I still did it.
A log like this could use the extra pragmatism and who better to play Devil's advocate then someone I know and respect. You're thoughts and opinions are always welcomed in my log, Thomas. :cheers:.. Test E = ~$120 for 5 weeks. [cough, cough]
.. all I'm saying is, it's quite unbelievable how hyped up a product got; to the point where people nearly insist on taking it, and at times, plan to take it in a double dosage (compared to label recommendations, 2 caps X 3 times daily vs 12 caps/day) to 'guarantee' the results or some kind of gains.
.. I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion (whether they want to take it or don't want to take it), simply trying to point out a valid point. Come on now, IC, let's see Sam's run @ 9 caps/day (50% over suggested dosage), and make judgement once 40 days are up. Besides, considering Volcom's got 40+ lbs on you (bodyweight) 6 caps ought to do the trick for you .. you'd think ..
Holy $hit, bro; 1,500mg/week minimum when you ran it ?! :jaw:Mmmmm....Test Enanthate.....
....NO! NO, IC!
I hear what you're saying Viking, and I agree completely, which is why I'm waiting to see Volcom's run.
But I do have a mega-dosing habit...and it stemmed from AAS use. I don't dose Test under 1.5g/wk anymore...That is if I still did it.
.. haha, Sam, I appreciate you not feeling disrespected by my previous comments in your thread.. Like I said, I'm not trying to bring on the hate, I'm merely emphasizing various factors I always take into consideration when choosing to make any economic decision. 'Cost' vs 'the benefits of such a decision' vs 'does it make sense' vs 'what are the options' . .A log like this could use the extra pragmatism and who better to play Devil's advocate then someone I know and respect. You're thoughts and opinions are always welcomed in my log, Thomas. :cheers:
Last time I ran Enanthate was @ 1g/wk (500mg, 2x/wk). Last time I ran Propionate was @ 1.4g/wk (200mg ED).Holy $hit, bro; 1,500mg/week minimum when you ran it ?! :jaw:
As in 4-6 cc's week [@ 250-300mg/mL] ?
.. that's also taxing as hell on your wallet..
.. and nuts . .
That's then what I've been missing all along, can I have some too, PLEEEZE Poops !!!!!I've been blessed with poop water, now all is well.
I have good/bad news. These pre-Prime logged workouts were meant to be a gauge of current strength, in order to contrast against Prime cycle gains. The good/bad news is that this morning was one of my strongest performing trap/delt workouts I've had all season, so the bar has been set pretty high.
One of the main reasons I suspect for these gains are the newly established neuromuscular adaptions. I've been "transitioning" from high volume/moderate intensity, to high intensity/moderate volume for a few weeks now and I believe that transition is over.
Enough with the BS'ing, on with the show.
Barbell Shrugs
225lbs x 15 reps
315lbs x 12 reps
375lbs x 10 reps
405lbs x 8 reps
Behind The Neck, Smith Barbell Shrugs
315lbs x 10 reps
375lbs x 10 reps
405lbs x 8 reps
Db Shrugs
125lbs Db's x 15 reps
125lbs Db's x 12 reps
125lbs Db's x 12 reps
125lbs Db's x 12 reps
Seated Shrugs
270lbs x 10 reps
270lbs x 8 reps
270lbs x 8 reps
Behind The Neck Shoulder Press
225lbs x 10 reps
225lbs x 8 reps
225lbs x 6 reps
Hammer Shoulder Press
180lbs x 10 reps
180lbs x 8 reps
180lbs x 6 reps
Seated, Cable Shoulder Press
100lbs x 15 reps
120lbs x 12 reps
140lbs x 10 reps
You don't sound like you're "hating" at all. You don't ever express opinions about PRIME being a shenanigan product per se, you've only voiced your dissidence with marketing practices and other venues where you'd prefer to spend "that much money." Passion in our opinions can make them "sound" more negative then they really are... haha, Sam, I appreciate you not feeling disrespected by my previous comments in your thread.. Like I said, I'm not trying to bring on the hate, I'm merely emphasizing various factors I always take into consideration when choosing to make any economic decision. 'Cost' vs 'the benefits of such a decision' vs 'does it make sense' vs 'what are the options' . .
I think my definition of volume pertains to limited sets and reps, as oppose to overall exercisesAnd THAT is moderate volume ?! :jaw::jaw::jaw:
Definitely NOT "just another" Prime log Volcom, those are high base standards :head:
Let's see how far the ultimate muscle pill gets you!
After Thanksgiving, I'm sure there shall be no shortageThat's then what I've been missing all along, can I have some too, PLEEEZE Poops !!!!!:lol:
for sure, go BJ Penn!checking in.
although ill probably never run prime seeing the price tag im interested in your results.
Test E = $1.10/g + BA/BB + Whatman + Vials = more like $90 for 12 weeks cough, cough.. Test E = ~$120 for 5 weeks. [cough, cough]
.. all I'm saying is, it's quite unbelievable how hyped up a product got; to the point where people nearly insist on taking it, and at times, plan to take it in a double dosage (compared to label recommendations, 2 caps X 3 times daily vs 12 caps/day) to 'guarantee' the results or some kind of gains.
haha. on the other hand, id be very interested if you DID run that log of 1500 per week. could be the making of a monster.Mullett, it's best I don't find out where you're getting test for $1.10/g.
any time my child, lol.That's then what I've been missing all along, can I have some too, PLEEEZE Poops !!!!!:lol:
6g cissus will suffice to alleviate achy joints & tendons, but 9g will promote anabolic effects.. you know this poops..wow 9g!! I was thinking 6g!!!
Will NP's Cissus do this? Or is Super Cissus Rx needed @ 9 grams for anabolic effects ?6g cissus will suffice to alleviate achy joints & tendons, but 9g will promote anabolic effects.. you know this poops..
6g cissus will suffice to alleviate achy joints & tendons, but 9g will promote anabolic effects.. you know this poops..
You and I are currently in the same boat. I overcompensate the lack of deads with extensive shrug exercises; I try to perform shrugs on shoulder days and back days, but nothing appropriately makes up for deads.damn dude, first time I have caught those dead vids... very impressive... I dont dead cause Ive always had a shittay lower back, not even going to tempt it. Im stuck to shrugs and classic extended rows to hit the lower back and traps the way a dead does... of course its no where near the same intensity.
Strangely enough, I have never gained nor loss strength in my dead lifts as a result of body mass (my bench and shoulder strength have been effected by body mass, but not dead lifts). I've been as heavy as 230lbs, but I hit my strongest dead PR's (the 495lbs x 2) at 211lbs. I was performing deads consistently and without complications at that time, nor were my bent over rows ever effected by body mass. I could barbell row 405 just the same at 211 as I could at 230.Those are some great vids, Volcom. My deads seem to be the one exercise that suffered from my weightloss.
See, all that talk is way over my head, I've never supplemented with anything I couldn't buy at NP or BB.com.Test E = $1.10/g + BA/BB + Whatman + Vials = more like $90 for 12 weeks cough, cough
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that is so beastly dood. im barely pulling 225 for sets of 5 or 6 on rows.Strangely enough, I have never gained nor loss strength in my dead lifts as a result of body mass (my bench and shoulder strength have been effected by body mass, but not dead lifts). I've been as heavy as 230lbs, but I hit my strongest dead PR's (the 495lbs x 2) at 211lbs. I was performing deads consistently and without complications at that time, nor were my bent over rows ever effected by body mass. I could barbell row 405 just the same at 211 as I could at 230.
I naturally excelled at BB rows, so i can't really say I earned it. I picked it up and started at 225, and I added weight consistently week in week out until I reached 405 for consistent 10 reps. My peak strength on BB rows was 475 for 6, but I never got a chance to exceed beyond that level.that is so beastly dood. im barely pulling 225 for sets of 5 or 6 on rows.
Yeah, that raised my furrowed brow as well. ha haMullett, it's best I don't find out where you're getting test for $1.10/g.
well man if u dont get sore from yor workout, time to change it up!As mentioned before, I am a fanatic of refined and defined forearm development, in particular, the brachioradialis, forearm extensors and forearm flexors in that hierarchy of admiration and personal priority.
I sometimes forefront my forearms on biceps days and of course I have "regular" biceps days.
Db Hammer Curls
60lbs Db's x 10 reps
65lbs Db's x 8 reps
70lbs Db's x 6 reps
Vertical Preacher, One Arm Db, Cross-body hammer curls
40lbs Db's x 10 reps, each arm
45lbs Db's x 8 reps, e.a.
50lbs Db's x 6 reps, e.a.
Barbell Reverse Curls
65lbs x 10 reps
85lbs x 8 reps
105lbs x 6 reps
Cable Rope Curls
100lbs x 10 reps
120lbs x 10 reps
140lbs x 6 reps
Cable, EZ Bar Reverse Curls
100lbs x 10 reps
120lbs x 10 reps
140lbs x 8 reps
Cable, One Arm, Reverse Curls
40lbs x 10 reps, e.a.
50lbs x 10 reps, e.a.
60lbs x 8 reps, e.a.
Strange enough, I will not have any DOMS from this. I don't ever get DOMS anywhere these days, however, I get DOMS in my chest after every single workout. It's very weird.