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    Mullett, it's best I don't find out where you're getting test for $1.10/g.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    Mullett, it's best I don't find out where you're getting test for $1.10/g.
    haha. on the other hand, id be very interested if you DID run that log of 1500 per week. could be the making of a monster.
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    damn dude, first time I have caught those dead vids... very impressive... I dont dead cause Ive always had a ****tay lower back, not even going to tempt it. Im stuck to shrugs and classic extended rows to hit the lower back and traps the way a dead does... of course its no where near the same intensity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonfly View Post
    That's then what I've been missing all along, can I have some too, PLEEEZE Poops !!!!!
    any time my child, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    wow 9g!! I was thinking 6g!!!
    6g cissus will suffice to alleviate achy joints & tendons, but 9g will promote anabolic effects.. you know this poops..
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagency View Post
    6g cissus will suffice to alleviate achy joints & tendons, but 9g will promote anabolic effects.. you know this poops..
    Will NP's Cissus do this? Or is Super Cissus Rx needed @ 9 grams for anabolic effects ?
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    I have no experience with NP's bulk, can't speak on that..
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagency View Post
    6g cissus will suffice to alleviate achy joints & tendons, but 9g will promote anabolic effects.. you know this poops..

    evry one is diffenrt, i have had great anabolic effects from 4 to 5 grams aday dosing especaly aroud my workouts befor and after.
    taking 1.5-2.0 grams with unrefined coconut oil gives me that strongest pumps
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    damn dude, first time I have caught those dead vids... very impressive... I dont dead cause Ive always had a ****tay lower back, not even going to tempt it. Im stuck to shrugs and classic extended rows to hit the lower back and traps the way a dead does... of course its no where near the same intensity.
    You and I are currently in the same boat. I overcompensate the lack of deads with extensive shrug exercises; I try to perform shrugs on shoulder days and back days, but nothing appropriately makes up for deads.

    I'm a fanatic for well developed traps and well developed forearms.
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    Those are some great vids, Volcom. My deads seem to be the one exercise that suffered from my weightloss.
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    Pre-Prime; Brachioradialis emphasized, biceps day


    As mentioned before, I am a fanatic of refined and defined forearm development, in particular, the brachioradialis, forearm extensors and forearm flexors in that hierarchy of admiration and personal priority.

    I sometimes forefront my forearms on biceps days and of course I have "regular" biceps days.

    Db Hammer Curls
    60lbs Db's x 10 reps
    65lbs Db's x 8 reps
    70lbs Db's x 6 reps

    Vertical Preacher, One Arm Db, Cross-body hammer curls
    40lbs Db's x 10 reps, each arm
    45lbs Db's x 8 reps, e.a.
    50lbs Db's x 6 reps, e.a.

    Barbell Reverse Curls
    65lbs x 10 reps
    85lbs x 8 reps
    105lbs x 6 reps

    Cable Rope Curls
    100lbs x 10 reps
    120lbs x 10 reps
    140lbs x 6 reps

    Cable, EZ Bar Reverse Curls
    100lbs x 10 reps
    120lbs x 10 reps
    140lbs x 8 reps

    Cable, One Arm, Reverse Curls
    40lbs x 10 reps, e.a.
    50lbs x 10 reps, e.a.
    60lbs x 8 reps, e.a.

    Strange enough, I will not have any DOMS from this. I don't ever get DOMS anywhere these days, however, I get DOMS in my chest after every single workout. It's very weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    Those are some great vids, Volcom. My deads seem to be the one exercise that suffered from my weightloss.
    Strangely enough, I have never gained nor loss strength in my dead lifts as a result of body mass (my bench and shoulder strength have been effected by body mass, but not dead lifts). I've been as heavy as 230lbs, but I hit my strongest dead PR's (the 495lbs x 2) at 211lbs. I was performing deads consistently and without complications at that time, nor were my bent over rows ever effected by body mass. I could barbell row 405 just the same at 211 as I could at 230.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Test E = $1.10/g + BA/BB + Whatman + Vials = more like $90 for 12 weeks cough, cough

    .
    See, all that talk is way over my head, I've never supplemented with anything I couldn't buy at NP or BB.com.

    i can score some cheap multi's at Walmart cause I know a shady cashier, yeeeaaaah
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Strangely enough, I have never gained nor loss strength in my dead lifts as a result of body mass (my bench and shoulder strength have been effected by body mass, but not dead lifts). I've been as heavy as 230lbs, but I hit my strongest dead PR's (the 495lbs x 2) at 211lbs. I was performing deads consistently and without complications at that time, nor were my bent over rows ever effected by body mass. I could barbell row 405 just the same at 211 as I could at 230.
    that is so beastly dood. im barely pulling 225 for sets of 5 or 6 on rows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolandajoint View Post
    that is so beastly dood. im barely pulling 225 for sets of 5 or 6 on rows.
    I naturally excelled at BB rows, so i can't really say I earned it. I picked it up and started at 225, and I added weight consistently week in week out until I reached 405 for consistent 10 reps. My peak strength on BB rows was 475 for 6, but I never got a chance to exceed beyond that level.

    My ability to BB row and dead lift are not an accurate reflection of my general back strength. Based on those two movements, it accredits me with more then I am. i can't do 315lbs lat pull downs for 15 reps like Thomas or TG, but I'm sure my BB rows were well in their arena. I attempted 495 row, but I hit 2 or 3 and was like, yeah... these are dead lift numbers on BB row, not my time yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    Mullett, it's best I don't find out where you're getting test for $1.10/g.
    Yeah, that raised my furrowed brow as well. ha ha
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    It used to be .70/g prior to Operation Raw Deal but, it is best we refrain from speaking about this further lest Volcom's log be abrogated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    As mentioned before, I am a fanatic of refined and defined forearm development, in particular, the brachioradialis, forearm extensors and forearm flexors in that hierarchy of admiration and personal priority.

    I sometimes forefront my forearms on biceps days and of course I have "regular" biceps days.

    Db Hammer Curls
    60lbs Db's x 10 reps
    65lbs Db's x 8 reps
    70lbs Db's x 6 reps

    Vertical Preacher, One Arm Db, Cross-body hammer curls
    40lbs Db's x 10 reps, each arm
    45lbs Db's x 8 reps, e.a.
    50lbs Db's x 6 reps, e.a.

    Barbell Reverse Curls
    65lbs x 10 reps
    85lbs x 8 reps
    105lbs x 6 reps

    Cable Rope Curls
    100lbs x 10 reps
    120lbs x 10 reps
    140lbs x 6 reps

    Cable, EZ Bar Reverse Curls
    100lbs x 10 reps
    120lbs x 10 reps
    140lbs x 8 reps

    Cable, One Arm, Reverse Curls
    40lbs x 10 reps, e.a.
    50lbs x 10 reps, e.a.
    60lbs x 8 reps, e.a.

    Strange enough, I will not have any DOMS from this. I don't ever get DOMS anywhere these days, however, I get DOMS in my chest after every single workout. It's very weird.
    well man if u dont get sore from yor workout, time to change it up!
    one thing that ive always went by
    more intensity more growth
    if im not sore i need more intensity, or a differnt routine
    just my 2 cents
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    Sheesh. The most expensive thing would be the filters.

    I could do a 20week cycle @ 1,500mg/wk for ~$60 after everything! Ahahaha!

    ...but why again do I toy with myself? Because I'm not going to.
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    Soreness means nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    Soreness means nothing.

    yeh yer right
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    It's NICE to be sore. I get a feeling of accomplishment from it, but it really doesn't play a role in anything. I realized that when I was doing low-volume training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    well man if u dont get sore from yor workout, time to change it up!
    one thing that ive always went by
    more intensity more growth
    if im not sore i need more intensity, or a differnt routine
    just my 2 cents
    Thanks for the input. However, I don't follow a regular routine. I may keep the same starting compound exercises for each muscle group, but beyond that, it's not much of a "routine," I generally mix things up from week to week. This is why the only strength PR's I like to measure are my starting compound movements, because the following exercises are not usually performed in the same order, if at all.
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    Just kicked Thanksgivings ass.

    Here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberLakers View Post
    Just kicked Thanksgivings ass.

    Here.
    You kick everything's ass!! Are you back in the Big Apple already brosef? It's good to have you back. It seems like you've been gone for months dude. Let the bitch-slapping commence!! :chick:
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    I could only imagine the ridiculous numbers you'd be lifting if you were on gear....amazing V!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Australian made View Post
    I could only imagine the ridiculous numbers you'd be lifting if you were on gear....amazing V!!
    I wouldn't even want to imagine THAT, the numbers are crazy already ! Great stuff V !
    Even if you naturally excell at exercises such as BB rows, in no way does that diminish your accomplishment. That would only be the case if you were wasting yout talent away...say like this :
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    It's NICE to be sore. I get a feeling of accomplishment from it, but it really doesn't play a role in anything. I realized that when I was doing low-volume training.
    AGREE, I used to think it was important until I realized I was making gains independent of DOMS.
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    Nice log so far, Volcom!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    It used to be .70/g prior to Operation Raw Deal but, it is best we refrain from speaking about this further lest Volcom's log be abrogated.
    ..abrogation of quality logs pisses me off..
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    As mentioned before, I am a fanatic of refined and defined forearm development, in particular, the brachioradialis, forearm extensors and forearm flexors in that hierarchy of admiration and personal priority.

    I sometimes forefront my forearms on biceps days and of course I have "regular" biceps days.

    Db Hammer Curls
    60lbs Db's x 10 reps
    65lbs Db's x 8 reps
    70lbs Db's x 6 reps

    Vertical Preacher, One Arm Db, Cross-body hammer curls
    40lbs Db's x 10 reps, each arm
    45lbs Db's x 8 reps, e.a.
    50lbs Db's x 6 reps, e.a.

    Barbell Reverse Curls
    65lbs x 10 reps
    85lbs x 8 reps
    105lbs x 6 reps

    Cable Rope Curls
    100lbs x 10 reps
    120lbs x 10 reps
    140lbs x 6 reps

    Cable, EZ Bar Reverse Curls
    100lbs x 10 reps
    120lbs x 10 reps
    140lbs x 8 reps

    Cable, One Arm, Reverse Curls
    40lbs x 10 reps, e.a.
    50lbs x 10 reps, e.a.
    60lbs x 8 reps, e.a.

    Strange enough, I will not have any DOMS from this. I don't ever get DOMS anywhere these days, however, I get DOMS in my chest after every single workout. It's very weird.

    Good stuff buddy, i never worry about DOMS anymore, i seem to get better gains without it.
    Chest muscle seems to be very sensitive to lactic acid burn and DOMS, im not sure why but im exactly the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberLakers View Post
    Just kicked Thanksgivings ass.

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    Good to have you back Timber. Nothing changed too much in your absence. I think it was Benjamin Franklin who said, "nothing in life is certain but death and taxes." The AM version is, "nothing in life is certain but Volcom and ANOTHER damn log."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Australian made View Post
    I could only imagine the ridiculous numbers you'd be lifting if you were on gear....amazing V!!
    Thanks Aussie Made. I considered it when I first got into bodybuilding. I think a lot of high schoolers "considered" it to some degree. I thought I was cursed with the super human special ability to not be able to progress, but after awhile with knowledge and experience, I realized bodybuilding was "naturally" a marathon for most.

    My strength was always fast to excel, perhaps blessedly so, but my primary concern was the short coming of the lack of morphology in my physique. Come to find out, I was simply too chunky of a monkey in high school for abs or any rock like contour to surface. Live and learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonfly View Post
    I wouldn't even want to imagine THAT, the numbers are crazy already ! Great stuff V !
    Even if you naturally excell at exercises such as BB rows, in no way does that diminish your accomplishment. That would only be the case if you were wasting yout talent away...say like this :
    I appreciate the compliment Dragonfly. I know there's a thin line between humility and unable to receive a proper compliment, I seem to go back and forth on that line. Don't know why?

    DAMN MY CHILDHOOD SUPPRESSED SOMETHING OR RATHER.... perhaps if I watch Dr. Phil season one on DVD I can figure this out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    It used to be .70/g prior to Operation Raw Deal but, it is best we refrain from speaking about this further lest Volcom's log be abrogated.
    I've captained many an abrogation, my screen name by all rights should be Captain Hook for my numerous hijacks.

    I honestly don't mind, in all of my logs, the only house rule has been, "mi casa su casa."
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagency View Post
    ..abrogation of quality logs pisses me off..
    damn, you must hate me....

    It's good to have your consistent support Chef!
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    Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    Good stuff buddy, i never worry about DOMS anymore, i seem to get better gains without it.
    Chest muscle seems to be very sensitive to lactic acid burn and DOMS, im not sure why but im exactly the same.
    I wished my back behaved in the same manner. I believe back DOMS deliver the most psychological, "job well done" feeling for me, and I just simply enjoy Traps DOMS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    I've captained many an abrogation, my screen name by all rights should be Captain Hook for my numerous hijacks.

    I honestly don't mind, in all of my logs, the only house rule has been, "mi casa su casa."
    Nah, by abrogate I meant 'shut down' - in light of the gear-price talk!

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