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09-09-2008, 03:08 PM
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| Registered User  | Re-starting T3, Adrenals and HPTA!! Massive log W. REAL Sarms! PHASE 2 with IGF, MGF, Endo Amp, White Flood and some Prime has begun! THE HOOK! This log will be different from anything else I have seen on here. It will include REAL sarms and someone completely trying to restart many major systems of their body at once. Interested yet? Below are just some of the supplements to be logged!
History I have been on this board for a few years but started on other boards years before that. I discovered super supplements early on, too early. I tried many combos of supplements and super supplements and was always a hard gainer. I am not the ecto type, more like endo - skinny fat. I am very insulin resistant, think I may acutally be diabetic and have problems with t3 (probably from being diet conscious since age 15.) I have been as large as 240 with some blubber to as ripped as 200lb at sub 6% (more like 5ish). I've done more stacks of supps and super supps than I would care to admit. Overall nothing worked amazingly well. Current I got myself rahter out of shape and started a major rebuilding project around April. things went great. With the help of Lyle McDonalds Ultimate diet 2.0 which I altered to a more ketogenic diet I was able to get ripped. Unfortunetly somethign was awry with my water and it only really showed on PGCL (Force of Green saw it ha - no pics from then unfortunetly). Unfortunetly though none of this is maintainable. My genetics just don't allow it. I don't discuss what I take exactly but I have used far to many super sups over this time, MASSIVE amounts of stimulants and t3. Right now I am just fed up. my adrenals simply cant take this anymore. No stims effect me, NOTHING. with enough stims my heart will get pounding but no mental high. I use to nearly breakdown from geranium now I can take it and sleep, and thats just one example. Also I am super stressed all day and can't ever sleep. I have begun adding carbs back in at 150-200 grams a day and have begun tapering off super supps while i save money for a proper pct. Also have begun tapering down my t3 doses. The Outline All carb meals will be taken with 900mg Yellow Gold and 100mg 20% Banaba Phase 1 - Weeks 1-6 - Adrenal and thyroid Recover Week 1-4
I will begin HCG during this time towards week 2-3 and use Toco-8 to increase sensativity to LH. Phase 2 - Weeks 5/6-11/12 - PCT for HPTA HERE come the SARMS and IGF/MGF!
Peptide protocol Note PegMGF is over a year old - may be denatured some but is still lypholized so should be decent Week 7,9,11,13 - 40-60mcg Receptor grade IGF Post WO - 4 times a week Week 6,8,10,12 - 500mcg PegMgf Post WO - 4 times a week Phase 3 - Weeks13-20 - Moving More Towards the light Obviousoly this is FAR in the future BUUUUT My general plan is
Final Words from Outline PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME FOR SOURCES OF ANY OF THE PRODUCTS! - If you can't get it at NP it doesn't exist! I hope to follow this log as a way to stay motivated over a 5 month period. I will reserve the posts below for updates and pictures. Sarms Research Pharmacodynamics of selective androgen receptor modulators. Yin D, Gao W, Kearbey JD, Xu H, Chung K, He Y, Marhefka CA, Veverka KA, Miller DD, Dalton JT. Division of Pharmaceutics and Pharmaceutical Chemistry, College of Pharmacy, The Ohio State University, Columbus, Ohio, USA. The present study aimed to identify selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs) with in vivo pharmacological activity. We examined the in vitro and in vivo pharmacological activity of four chiral, nonsteroidal SARMs synthesized in our laboratories. In the in vitro assays, these compounds demonstrated moderate to high androgen receptor (AR) binding affinity, with K(i) values ranging from 4 to 37 nM, and three of the compounds efficaciously stimulated AR-mediated reporter gene expression. The compounds were then administered subcutaneously to castrated rats to appraise their in vivo pharmacological activity. Androgenic activity was evaluated by the ability of these compounds to maintain the weights of prostate and seminal vesicle, whereas levator ani muscle weight was used as a measure of anabolic activity. The maximal response (E(max)) and dose for half-maximal effect (ED(50)) were determined for each compound and compared with that observed for testosterone propionate (TP). Compounds S-1 and S-4 demonstrated in vivo androgenic and anabolic activity, whereas compounds S-2 and S-3 did not. The activities of S-1 and S-4 were tissue-selective in that both compounds stimulated the anabolic organs more than the androgenic organs. These two compounds were less potent and efficacious than TP in androgenic activity, but their anabolic activity was similar to or greater than that of TP. Neither S-1 nor S-4 caused significant luteinizing hormone or follicle stimulating hormone suppression at doses near the ED(50) value. Thus, compounds S-1 and S-4 were identified as SARMs with potent and tissue-selective in vivo pharmacological activity, and represent the first members of a new class of SARMs with selective anabolic effects. PMID: 12604714 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] |
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09-09-2008, 03:09 PM
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| Registered User | Reserved for first set of pics from before cycle to now Holy crap my own progress blew me away.... Apparently I started my my cycle Mid-May The first set are pics are from May 5 - the second are from Sept 9 I feel fat in the second set but oh well...       |
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09-09-2008, 03:09 PM
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| Registered User | Phase 1 product feedback Thoughts Overall a reasonable success. Bodyweight stayed around the same, probably lost a small amount of muscle and gained a small amount of fat which is ok for all the things I had going on coming off super supps and synthetic t3. Weights definetly went up which was very unexpected. Shoulder dumbell press 1st week - 70 x 12 Strongest - 80 x 17 Incline dumbell press 1st time - 80 x 13 Strongest - 80 x 20 **Then got hurt... Almost better not... Those are just two examples, I fought a couple injuries like always so my lifts had to change to fit it in but there was a feeling of "the weights just moved." Supplements Week 1-4 Now Rhodiola - 500mg x 3 **Did not feel much... I like it in a tea better Bacopa - Dosing TBD - 2/3 x day **Felt nothing but it may have helped t3 Holy Basil - 450mg x 3 **some calming possibly... Would try again 1-Carboxy - Dosing TBD Before bed (2g?) **Slept pretty good, some prolactin help... Not really worth it though. Might have helped with recovery though so will look to see if recover gets worse NOW Thyroid Energy - Label dosing **Thyroid recovered Lugols Iodine - 4 drops ED **Thyroid seems to be ok, amazing value. This stuff last forever Colleus - 40-60mg actives 2-3 x day **DID NOT USE - Saved for phase 2 Reset AD - 3 x day **Can't say I noticed much Cordygen5 - 2 caps pre-wo / 1 in AM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best performance enhancer I have used !!!!!! CRE-02 - 3 caps pre-wo **DID NOT USE Personal blended pre-WO mix (GMS, ALCAR tyrosine, Chocamine and AAKG) **Used sometimes...Not crazy about it but performance did go up from alcar for sure. Will use alcar in the future Tyrosine and ALCAR ro energy as needed **I like tyrosine at a good dose Toco-8(starting week 2 or 3) **Just started Phase 2 plan PCT - The tricky part Week 1-4 - Estrogen -60mg toremifen + 50mg Clomid ED Cortisol - 1000mg Relora + 2400mg PS (EndoAmp 1.5 dosage) Pre-Wo - Recreate Hopefully if I can get it Sleep - Ketotifen (strong anti-catabolic as well) Fat and cAmp - 500mg GTE + 200mg 20% Colleus (3 times/day) Performance - BUYING MORE CORDY!, Creatine Mono (save $$) PEPTIDES! Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday - 500mcg PegMgf Mon, Wens, Thurs - 60-80mcg IGF PWO  |
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09-09-2008, 03:09 PM
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| Registered User | Reserved for Phase 2 update / conculsion and hopefully pics |
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09-09-2008, 03:10 PM
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| Registered User | Reserved for Phase 3 update / conculsion and hopefully pics |
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09-09-2008, 03:20 PM
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| Libido Check!!  | First in!! Helluva stack you got planned! Lookn forward to this one! GL man! |
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09-09-2008, 03:36 PM
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09-09-2008, 04:40 PM
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| Registered User   | In! I love these experiments! |
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09-09-2008, 05:38 PM
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| Registered User | Pre-Log Day 1 Still on HRT+ doses right now and HAD to take stims cause I didnt sleep at all last night due to stress and adrenals (so bad guys!) Took 25mg Ephedrine, 6g aakg and 60mg geranium with a liptons energy burst drink. I am currently doing everything twice a week, once heavy once lighter for tension. today was arms and shoulders heavy 5x5. Workout Front barbell press- 155 - 5x5 - definetly too light will go up Body drag curls - 90 - 5x5 - Good but got all reps so will go up Skull crushers - 125 - 5x5 - Heavy - got all reps but will stay here next week My bicep tendon is acting up gain from bent over rows yesterday and is very bad now... looks like they need to be stopped. |
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09-09-2008, 05:54 PM
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| Registered User  | So you have only been ON since April? (supa supps that is) In a sea of opinion, hunch, hearsay, gossip, and good old-fashioned guesswork, there's only one thing that can rise above it all, and that's a little thing called science. - Alan Aragon (Foreword of Knowledge and Nonsense by Jamie Hale) |
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09-09-2008, 06:03 PM
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Again I want to make this about this log - I know my choices have not been wise and i am slowly trying to fix them. | |
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09-09-2008, 06:26 PM
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| ...It's looking right at me.  | I'm in. Word up JR. "Memento mori"... Remember that you will die. |
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09-09-2008, 07:22 PM
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| Registered User | I dont think thats even long, lol. Best of luck though. Any recent basic health bloodwork? Curious what the TSH looks like... In a sea of opinion, hunch, hearsay, gossip, and good old-fashioned guesswork, there's only one thing that can rise above it all, and that's a little thing called science. - Alan Aragon (Foreword of Knowledge and Nonsense by Jamie Hale) |
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