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    Epistane Cycle, POST IGF-1 PHOTO LOG! Blowin' my $hit up!


    I started my Epistane cycle today. I finished a 4 weeker of IGF-1 ~2 weeks ago and now it's time to swell the hell up!

    I will attach my cycle in Excel format later this evening. I will log this as I did my IGF-1 (with page 1 acting as the master data page), and include PHOTOS because the mirror rules, not #s. That way, the data won't be obscured by all the bull$hit commentary.

    Diet: My diet will be clean! ~3,000 cals/day: 300g protein, 300g carbs, 70g fat
    This is equivalent to 40%; 40%; 20% macro breakdown, respectively.

    Foods: turkey burgers, ground turkey, chicken breasts (trimmed), Cod, Haddock, other seafood, whole oatmeal, waxy maise, whey protein shakes, mixed veggies, nuts (including peanut butter), and I'll be trying to get my mitts on some Ezekiel breads and low GI fruits. I do not like sugar (nutritionally).

    Note: I am NOT looking to add fat, thus I will be doing cardio prob. 5x EW. I only power-walk, no jogging.

    Note: I am NOT a power-lifting type of person. I do not move a lot of weight. I don't train for strength, I train for symmetry and size. There, now if I post b!tchas$ #s, you all can't hate. HA HA! BOOOM!
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    Day 1: 07/15/2008
    EDIT: OFF (chest/abs are too sore -- taking additional day off)
    Cardio: 1 hr power-walking in evening
    Start weight: TBD (~192)
    Current Weight: N/A
    Gain/Loss: N/A

    I took 10mg today. I was planning on working biceps/traps, but my chest and abs are so demolished from Sunday's workout, I'm not sure if I'll lift or take another day off. TBD until later in the evening.

    Sunday's workout, for comparative purposes related to future data, was pretty good. Worked chest/abs. Hadn't worked chest in a couple of weeks. Nice to get some recovery time off!
    Chest:
    Bench: 135 x 15; 225 x 10; 275 x 4 (4 sets); 295 x 3 (3 sets); 315 x 2
    Flat DB flys: 55 x 8, 65 x 8, 70 x 8
    Seated Hammer Strength Chest Press: 2 plates (ea. side) x 10, 3 plates x 8, 4 plates x 4-6

    Abs: lying 10lb medicine ball weird-ass-transfer/crunch-from-feet-to-hands-to-hands-extended-behind-head-repeat: 10lbs x 10 (3 sets)
    Cable cunches: 3-4 sets x 12-15 (weight? Hmmm....up to 150 I think at end)
    Straight-backed knee-ups: 15 x 2-3

    -Papa!-

    Day 2: 07/16/2008
    EDIT: Biceps/Traps (chest/abs are really sore yet)
    Cardio: NONE
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: 194.5
    Gain/Loss: ~+2.5

    Supplements: 30mg Epi (10mg/20mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std

    Day 3: 07/17/2008
    EDIT: OFF(chest/abs are slightly sore yet; biceps/forearms/trasp sore)
    Cardio: 1 hr power-walking (evening)
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: N/A
    Gain/Loss: ~+2.5

    Supplements: 30mg Epi (10mg/20mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std

    Day 4: 07/18/2008
    Back/Delts
    Cardio: NONE
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: 193
    Gain/Loss: ~+1.0

    Supplements: 30mg Epi (10mg/10mg/10mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std, Rogaine (5% minoxidil)

    Day 5: 07/19/2008
    OFF
    Cardio: power-walking 45 min.
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: N/A
    Gain/Loss: N/A

    Supplements: 30mg Epi (10mg/10mg/10mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std, Rogaine (5% minoxidil)

    Day 6: 07/20/2008
    LEGS/Calves
    Cardio: walking 30 min.
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: 197
    Gain/Loss: +5

    Supplements: 30mg Epi (10mg/10mg/10mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std, Hair regrowth/DHT Blocking solution: 10% minoxidil + Azelaic Acid 5%

    Day 7: 07/21/2008
    OFF
    Cardio: walking 40 min.
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: N/A
    Gain/Loss: N/A

    Supplements: 30mg Epi (10mg/10mg/10mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std, Hair regrowth/DHT Blocking solution: 10% minoxidil + Azelaic Acid 5%

    Day 8: 07/22/2008
    Chest/Abs
    Cardio: walking 60 min.
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: 197
    Gain/Loss: +5

    Supplements: 40mg Epi (10mg/10mg/20mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std, Hair regrowth/DHT Blocking solution: 10% minoxidil + Azelaic Acid 5%

    Day 9: 07/23/2008
    OFF
    Cardio: walking 60 min.
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: N/A
    Gain/Loss: N/A

    Supplements: 40mg Epi (10mg/10mg/20mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std, Hair regrowth/DHT Blocking solution: 10% minoxidil + Azelaic Acid 5%

    Day 10: 07/24/2008
    Biceps/Traps/Triceps
    Cardio: walking 60 min.
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: 196
    Gain/Loss: +4

    Supplements: 40mg Epi (10mg/10mg/20mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std, Hair regrowth/DHT Blocking solution: 10% minoxidil + Azelaic Acid 5%

    Day 11: 07/25/2008
    OFF
    Cardio: walking 60 min.
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: N/A
    Gain/Loss: N/A

    Supplements: 40mg Epi (10mg/10mg/20mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std, Hair regrowth/DHT Blocking solution: 10% minoxidil + Azelaic Acid 5%

    Day 12: 07/26/2008
    Back/Abs
    Cardio: walking 60 min.
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: 197
    Gain/Loss: +5

    Supplements: 40mg Epi (10mg/10mg/20mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std, Hair regrowth/DHT Blocking solution: 10% minoxidil + Azelaic Acid 5%

    Day 13: 07/27/2008
    OFF
    Cardio: None
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: N/A
    Gain/Loss: N/A

    Supplements: 40mg Epi (10mg/10mg/20mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std, Hair regrowth/DHT Blocking solution: 10% minoxidil + Azelaic Acid 5%

    Day 14: 07/27/2008
    Chest/Triceps
    Cardio: None
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: 199
    Gain/Loss: +7

    Supplements: 40mg Epi (10mg/10mg/20mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std, Hair regrowth/DHT Blocking solution: 10% minoxidil + Azelaic Acid 5%
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    good luck
    let's see some before pics
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibanezman08 View Post
    good luck
    let's see some before pics
    YEP YEP, taking some this evening when I get home. I did take some recently (~ 1 week ago)....here's the link (see the last 3 photos ("July 9" on page 1 of this IGF-1 log):

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/igf-1...psd-s-igf.html

    And I know I look like a fat $hit For Brains in one of them (I'm fat in all, but in one, I look exceedingly obese). Love photography!
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    Looking good already. Havoc will take you to the next level. I would say you should add about 800 more calories. I was about your weight and ate 3800 and didn't gain any fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rugger1 View Post
    Looking good already. Havoc will take you to the next level. I would say you should add about 800 more calories. I was about your weight and ate 3800 and didn't gain any fat.

    hmmm, no kiddin? Cool...I'll work with that info bro, thanks! I just do NOT want to add more fat. heh. I'll take care 'O this fat
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    Day 2: 07/16/2008
    EDIT: Biceps/Traps (chest/abs are really sore yet)
    Cardio: 1 hr power-walking in evening (TBD)
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: 194.5
    Gain/Loss: +2.5

    Supplements: 30mg Epi (10mg/20mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std, Glutamine

    Hitting bi's and traps this evening. Dosed 10mg Epi 8am. 2nd 10mg 1 hr pre-WO. Guzzling H2O.

    My chest and abs are still killing me. Dammit I hate soreness! Diet today consists of chicken breasts, corn, whole oatmeal (at least 3 cups), >110g whey protein, Lean Pocket. I will probably grill out chicken breasts tonight and have more chicken for dinner, along with whole grain brown rice and veggies.

    I will get my weight tonight at the gym and post. I'd love to hit 200lbs at the end of this cycle. I'll also work on getting PHOTOS....it's just a pain in my a$$ to take them, modify, then upload.

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    how do u plan on dosing the epi? 20/30/30/40?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    how do u plan on dosing the epi? 20/30/30/40?
    Exactly. Yesterday was 10mg (the starter dose).
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    if you are running a full cycle i think 40mg all the way would be better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    if you are running a full cycle i think 40mg all the way would be better.
    40mg for 4 weeks? Has this been run (ie, data on this?).

    Also, I'm not looking to end up BALD on this cycle, so I was thinking that keeping doseages "standard" would be my safest bet. So many people have had great results on 20/30/30/40.

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    yeah so many noobs.

    im just sayin it was pretty weak imo and others, if im gonna run a cycle and do pct i mind as well just get the most out of it. 30mg is half assin it imo unless youre a new guy to aas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    yeah so many noobs.

    im just sayin it was pretty weak imo and others, if im gonna run a cycle and do pct i mind as well just get the most out of it. 30mg is half assin it imo unless youre a new guy to aas.
    So, I have done SD, Promagnon, Halodrol (2 cycles) in the past. Do you think we can come to a happy medium at 30/30/40/40?

    Thanks for your input BTW bro. I am very weary of doing 40/40/40/40 though....as I feel some ramp up should be in there.

    Anyone else care to comment? Please feel free to do so!
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    I would run 30/40/40/40. I didnt really get great gains until I went to 40.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marsh11 View Post
    I would run 30/40/40/40. I didnt really get great gains until I went to 40.
    Hmm, well, I will probably have to purchase another bottle of Epistane now. That's kinda ghey, but I'll think about it.

    Marsh, thanks for your feedback.

    BTW, did you experience any hairloss? Other sides?


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    papa im in for this one except all your posts are always about how destroyed a body part is...i wish their was a cure for your insane doms hahaha

    nah but foreal good luck with this one and i would deff consider 30/40/40/40 cause ur already a big dude you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdpeck View Post
    papa im in for this one except all your posts are always about how destroyed a body part is...i wish their was a cure for your insane doms hahaha

    nah but foreal good luck with this one and i would deff consider 30/40/40/40 cause ur already a big dude you know.

    WELCOME BD DOOD!

    Right on bro, I will try out the 30/40/40/40. You BASTARDS!

    I hear you about the DOMS.....HATE IT WITH A PASSION! Can't get involved w/sports dood....always jacked up w/soreness somewhere. Eh, whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by papapumpsd View Post
    40mg for 4 weeks? Has this been run (ie, data on this?).

    Also, I'm not looking to end up BALD on this cycle, so I was thinking that keeping doseages "standard" would be my safest bet. So many people have had great results on 20/30/30/40.

    -Papa!-
    I'm running it 20/30/40/40. It's my first time round with the methyls, so I decided against a 40/40/40/40... But even the IBE site says that some looking for bigger gains would run that. 40 seems to be the magic number on all the threads...
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    DAY 2:

    Ok, I did 30mg today. I'll do 30/40/40/40 but I do NOT know how the EFF I'll handle this $hit! I was swoled the hell up in the gym. Mad pumps.....veins shooting out everywhere you could see skin (was wearing a beater). JFC.

    I weighed in at 194.5lbs...I KNOW I added weight the last 2 days. Good $hit!
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    Wuttup Pumpsd. No steak eh? Epi gives great strength gains. At 40 mgs you should gain some decent weight. And don't be afraid to have some extra carbs with this one.
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    what are you taking as a PCT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattikus View Post
    Wuttup Pumpsd. No steak eh? Epi gives great strength gains. At 40 mgs you should gain some decent weight. And don't be afraid to have some extra carbs with this one.
    DOOOOD! What's up?! Nooo steak...haven't had red meat in...ohhh.......15 yrs or so. NASTY IMO. heh.

    I'm lookin' forward to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by americanzombi View Post
    what are you taking as a PCT?
    Sorry dude, thanks for the reminder. I've posted my cycle. See page 1 for the EXCEL file (zipped)!

    For convenience, PCT is:
    Toremifene: 120/80/40
    Diesel Test Hardcore: 3/4/5
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    Flax/Fish oils and the usual stuff seen in log details
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    well if you are satisfied with the gains now then keep on with them you may respond more sensitivly to this compound, idk. If you are getting good gains keep on the course i guess... no hairloss with this one and im prone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    well if you are satisfied with the gains now then keep on with them you may respond more sensitivly to this compound, idk. If you are getting good gains keep on the course i guess... no hairloss with this one and im prone.

    YEAH dood, I'll see how this 1st week of 30mgs goes. My forearms were so swoled up yesterday during my workout that it was hard to hold onto the bar when doing BB shrugs.

    I will let you all know how this goes. I will be working out tonight as well (should be an OFF day, but headed to Chicago w/the new girl to screw around). I'll take off Sat and Sun prob as I'll be crazy sore.
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    Day 3: 07/17/2008
    EDIT: OFF(chest/abs are slightly sore yet; biceps/forearms/trasp sore)
    Cardio: 1 hr power-walking (evening)
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: N/A
    Gain/Loss: ~+2.5

    Supplements: 30mg Epi (10mg/20mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std

    OFF today. But I'm doing my 1 hr of walking. Biceps/forearms/traps are sore from yesterday. Abs/chest are still a bit sore yet too (ugh).

    Feeling good.
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    Day 4: 07/18/2008
    EDIT: Back/Delts
    Cardio: NONE
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: 193
    Gain/Loss: ~+1.0

    Supplements: 30mg Epi (10mg/10mg/10mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std, Rogaine (5% minoxidil)

    Back and delt workout was good. Vasculated/pumped. No cardio today. Was only 193...dropped 1.5lbs. Not a big deal.
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    Day 5: 07/19/2008
    OFF
    Cardio: power-walking 45 min.
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: N/A
    Gain/Loss: N/A

    Supplements: 30mg Epi (10mg/10mg/10mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std, Rogaine (5% minoxidil)

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    Day 6: 07/20/2008
    LEGS/Calves
    Cardio: walking 30 min.
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: 197
    Gain/Loss: +5

    Supplements: 30mg Epi (10mg/10mg/10mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std, Hair regrowth/DHT Blocking solution: 10% minoxidil + Azelaic Acid 5%

    Good leg workout. I'm sure they'll be crazy sore for the next few days.
    Squat: 135 x 15; 225 x 10; 275 x 6; 315 x 6 -- 3 sets
    Leg Extensions: ~ 5 sets (up to...200 or so) (all 8 reps)
    Seated Leg Curls: ~ 5 sets....up to 165 (all 8 reps)

    Calves: Declined Calf Press: ~ 5 sets, up to...220 (12 rep sets)
    I usually do a lot more on calves and more on legs, but I was training someone. It was still good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassgod272 View Post
    Subbed bro! Kill the ****in iron and get swoll!!! :bb3:
    Tomorrow I start 40mg and run it 3 weeks. Should be a helluva ride!
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    I started to see best gains at 40mg. I'm on my last week of of a six week cycle and have been at 50mg last 2 weeks. 50mg has been my sweet spot. We will have to call you spider now cause of all them damn veins. I'm on the band wagon and will be watching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr2lizard View Post
    I started to see best gains at 40mg. I'm on my last week of of a six week cycle and have been at 50mg last 2 weeks. 50mg has been my sweet spot. We will have to call you spider now cause of all them damn veins. I'm on the band wagon and will be watching.
    I hope your cycle has treated you well dood! So far so good w/me at 30mg. Just did legs yesterday and NO back pump from squats. Love it.

    Ya, I'm pretty vasculated. But I'm fat right now, so it's not too obvious. My new girl gets kind of weirded out from the veins.....she's in for a sweet surprise when I lean out! HA HA.

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    Day 7: 07/21/2008
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    Cardio: walking 40 min.
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: N/A
    Gain/Loss: N/A

    Supplements: 30mg Epi (10mg/10mg/10mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std, Hair regrowth/DHT Blocking solution: 10% minoxidil + Azelaic Acid 5%

    Legs and calves sore from leg day. Did shorter bout of walking today. Feeling good. Tomorrow is 40mg Epi.

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    Day 8: 07/22/2008
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    Cardio: walking 60 min.
    Start weight: ~192
    Current Weight: 197
    Gain/Loss: +5

    Supplements: 40mg Epi (10mg/10mg/20mg), Beta-alanine, waxy maise (in protein shakes), Cycle Support (2x ED), 12mg flax/Omega 3/6/9 oils, multi-vitamin, Calcium/Vit D, Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Std, Hair regrowth/DHT Blocking solution: 10% minoxidil + Azelaic Acid 5%

    Good chest workout; strength increasing; good pumps

    bench is up slightly: 315 x 4 (1 set) today. I don't need to do $hit for my chest to get hammered, so pyramiding up to 315 (final set of 225x10-12) is what I do for bench usually. Then inclined bench and inclined flys, then a few sets of seated cable flys.
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    I post in the igf-lr3 thread, I spoon feed you your DC answers when people are beefing with you and I get no notice of this thread?!?!?!? WTF dood!!!!

    Better late than never. 5lbs in 8 days with Epi.......thats some M1T/Superdrol/Dbol/Abombs like ish right there son.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    I post in the igf-lr3 thread, I spoon feed you your DC answers when people are beefing with you and I get no notice of this thread?!?!?!? WTF dood!!!!

    Better late than never. 5lbs in 8 days with Epi.......thats some M1T/Superdrol/Dbol/Abombs like ish right there son.
    Hey dood!! Welcome! Sorry I didn't send an invite..I never do...I assume ppl will see the thread as they knock around the Steroid section. I also posted this log in the IGF section for others as a "heads-up"!

    5lbs isn't too shabby thus far. I do look fuller and strength is up (the obvious stuff I suppose). I blew the HELL up on Superdrol. I hope i don't get nearly the sides on Epi as SD (SD is horrid). So far, just some mild acne on the face (forehead) that I've remedied with OTC cream and washing the face 2x ED. I usually have good skin. Ya, I'm a product whore. I'm one O dem metrosexuals I suppose! A-HILT, A-HILT!

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    Good luck dude and are you going to do 40 mg of epi for the rest of the cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pdx89 View Post
    Good luck dude and are you going to do 40 mg of epi for the rest of the cycle?
    Yes, I am: 30/40/40/40, then PCT. It's in the attached Excel file on my 1st post. It's all good in duh hood!
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