[Indiana Jones]

If AAS produces better gains and less sides than PH, what's your reason for using PH instead of AAS ?






edit: When I say less sides I'm talking about the more powerful PH

[nephilim666]

i use PH to jumpstart A.A.S because a bottle of phera plex is a hell of a lot cheaper then 400 Dbols

[RedwolfWV]

Phera Plex is a steroid, not a PH. I don't think there are any PH's out anymore, or very few anyway.

[JBerto]

Because PHs are legal and easy to buy, and you know what you buy.

Roids are illegal and in "black market" you can't know if they really sell you what they say.

[bigpoppapump2]

Because PHs are legal and easy to buy, and you know what you buy.

Roids are illegal and in "black market" you can't know if they really sell you what they say.

^^x2

[Indiana Jones]

Phera Plex is a steroid, not a PH. I don't think there are any PH's out anymore, or very few anyway.

Okay instead of "PH" let's just say legal supplements, like Superdrol, Pheraplex, etc instead

[warnerve]

i use PH to jumpstart A.A.S because a bottle of phera plex is a hell of a lot cheaper then 400 Dbols

yes. some of these products, although they have their share of sides, definitely have merit, can be had for $25 or less, and are from sources that are pretty reliable. i've seen superdrol for sale on black market lists before

[SupFatHead]

Because PHs are legal and easy to buy, and you know what you buy.

Roids are illegal and in "black market" you can't know if they really sell you what they say.

Those are both terrible reasons actually, lmfao.

1. Have a chemist test your PH....see if it matches label claims. There is no quality assurance measures in the designer steroid industry. I've seen numerous batches not match label claims...even PA has shown this industry to be shady.

2. "Roids are illegal" - the only good point you made

3. You can purchase things on the black market, use them and get results and know they are legit (if you have experience). Also with powders you can test melting points. AND at one point there was even a lab you could have test your gear (closed but I believe there are still options)...

[ValorOfOne]

PS/Ph are classified as supplements when it comes to military..

AAS is a no no giving you a boot in the ass.

[RoadBlocK]

Instead???

NO

together

But seriously, the only reason I could try to offer you was perceived legality relating to getting popped.

[kingofthechiba]

b/c ph's are legal. end of story

[ValorOfOne]

b/c ph's are legal. end of story

Agreed.

I would rather sleep sound knowing I'm not going to get the UCMJ thrown at me.

[Indiana Jones]

I know prices aren't supposed to be discussed but AAS is way more expensive than legal supps right ?

[SupFatHead]

I know prices aren't supposed to be discussed but AAS is way more expensive than legal supps right ?

Depends but not really...i'd say they are comparable. You dont run 15 week PP cycles....so its cheaper only b/c of the time.

[T-Bone]

If AAS produces better gains and less sides than PH, what's your reason for using PH instead of AAS ?






edit: When I say less sides I'm talking about the more powerful PH

Who says you have to use either?. You make it sound like everyone here using anabolics all the time!.

[T-Bone]

Phera Plex is a steroid, not a PH. I don't think there are any PH's out anymore, or very few anyway.

A lot of these kids just don't know the difference anymore. They think of everything as a PH, when they probally never even used a pro-hormone.

[T-Bone]

Okay instead of "PH" let's just say legal supplements, like Superdrol, Pheraplex, etc instead

Why don't we say steroids, because I don't put steroids in the same catagory as dietary supplements.

[Indiana Jones]

Who says you have to use either?. You make it sound like everyone here using anabolics all the time!.

Well this thread is in the steroids section. I guess I assumed most people who post in this sub forum are either using, have used, or about to use steroids or PH

[datBtrue]

If AAS produces better gains and less sides than PH, what's your reason for using PH instead of AAS ?

AAS have been known to produce the following side effects:

- a felony conviction
- loss of job/career/income
- loss of family, spouse, girlfriend, friends
- loss of freedom
- societal stigma
- fear of the unknown in ways unrelated to the use of the steroid...especially pertaining to "Oh my gawd the place I bought from was busted what does that mean for my exposed butt?"..."is this international order going to be a controlled delivery?"..."what's a custom's seizure letter?"

Test may be best but Superdrol will save your @sshole.

[silverSurfer]

AAS have been known to produce the following side effects:

- a felony conviction
- loss of job/career/income
- loss of family, spouse, girlfriend, friends
- loss of freedom
- societal stigma
- fear of the unknown in ways unrelated to the use of the steroid...especially pertaining to "Oh my gawd the place I bought from was busted what does that mean for my exposed butt?"..."is this international order going to be a controlled delivery?"..."what's a custom's seizure letter?"

Test may be best but Superdrol will save your @sshole.

Very true.

[RoidGracie]

The legality issue only. If d-bol or anavar were legal, my cabinet would be stocked. Actually, I wouldn't even need to stock up cause it would always be available. Governors bangin skanky hookers and we can't take supps to make us strong, bastards.

[fcpcjc]

Superdrol is illegal too bro. you get caught with it you might as well get caught with dianabol.

but i think you are referring to superdrol clones.

[RoidGracie]

Maybe he meant Superdrol NG.
I want what Georges St Pierre is taking, but that's probably on the illegal list too.

[fcpcjc]

Maybe he meant Superdrol NG.
I want what Georges St Pierre is taking, but that's probably on the illegal list too.

yep.. im sure it is. probably tren.
And I really hope he's not talking about the new Superdrol. It's awful.

[FLfinest81]

Are you guys kidding me? Steroids aren't illegal. I just bought some off the internet.

[sportsbro21]

Are you guys kidding me? Steroids aren't illegal. I just bought some off the internet.

haha nice.
when it boils down to it people use PH/PS instead of real gear either because they are pu$$ys or because they cant get real gear.
iv used PH/PS when i cant get real gear, but id take AAS over PH/PS B.S. an day

[RedwolfWV]

I think what it really comes down to is what the user is able to justify to himself. They are all steroids. Some just happen to be legal.... in a very grey sort of way. So the "stigma" is still there. You all gonna go tell your family your taking Phera Plex and its a steroid?? I don't think so. Gonna tell your boss?? Probably not. Its all a matter of what you can justify in your head as being "Ok to do"

[ALJD0812]

I got both stocked. I got 8 bottles of Havoc/Epistane and over 30 amps over Test at home. Comparing the 2 is like picking a 20 year old hot chick or a 40 year old cougar. I will gladly take both but prefer the 20 year old. But sometimes the 20 year old comes with to much baggage and the issues /side effects are sometimes to much to combat. Plus the 20 year old costs an arm and a leg to upkeep. The cougar is in and out. Ok enough with the analagy as I am annoying myself writing this.

I will run one "real" cycle in the summer and follow that with 2 cycles of Epistand/Havoc for the rest of the year. I must say I like Epi and havoc for the dry gains and the bloating is not an issue. The gains are noticeable and everyone will ask what are you on. When you do the real stuff you have so much more to worry about, the test is expensive enough, but then you get Armidex (SIC) and that's expensive. I hate having the moon face on TEST and the oily skin. Don't get me wrong you deal with this as needed. That being said I love them both and I am curious to see what gains I am going to make on my real cycle this summer, my gains from Epi were amazing so I know this is going to be nuts, but that's more ego talking.

If I were only allowed to do one or the other for the rest of my life, I would pick PH's. Less time and easier PCT. There's my 2 cents.

[RoidGracie]

Someone could say, do you take steroids...I would say, no, steroids are illegal, everything I take or have taken was legal at the time....that's one way to justify it. Can they say steroids aren't illegal if they are not prescribed (NO), can they say what I take is illegal (NO)...works for me. I don't do roids, now give me my damn H-Drol and Furazadrol please!! I needs my vitamins.

[slow-mun]

Superdrol is illegal too bro. you get caught with it you might as well get caught with dianabol.

but i think you are referring to superdrol clones.

Superdrol is not illegal. It was voluntarily discontinued by AX. If you were to get caught with a bottle of Superdrol, then it's likely that a police officer would only tell you that it's about to expire.