Havoc, for gaining mass (what's better ?)
03-08-2008 05:18 PM
Depends on how you look at it. Supposing for a first cycle Havoc/Epi is strong enough it might be a nicer cycle if you don't have to deal with the sides. There's no way to tell ahead of time how you'll feel when on or even how much you'll gain. There seems to be few people that don't make good gains on Epi. There also seems to be few people who don't have severe sides on Superdrol. I also think a lot of people are taking them as a short cut and would make those gains eventually, anyway. But that's another topic.
Originally Posted by Indiana Jones
Size and strength are not the only aspects of a good cycle, it's nice to feel good, too. I'd say the "milder" anabolics are a better choice as long as they are effective. Milder is only a relative term.
Epi is a prescriptive drug in some countries. It at least has some testing behind it. Superdrol is a crap shoot. I'm not saying you should never do it, but I think for a first cycle it's over kill.
03-08-2008 05:47 PM
In my opinion it is always best to try to get the most ot of the less potent first. If you can gain 5-10 lbs frome 20-30mg of epi then do that first. You can only do it once or twice before you have to go up in dosage. Once you have made gaines on the milder stuff and know how your body responds move on to stronger stuff. your gains will be more consistant and easier to keep.
03-09-2008 01:27 AM
however, superdrol will make you feel the sh*ttiest as well-
I felt decent on Phera, but it really messed up my BP
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