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Havoc/Emax/Max Cycle options?

Flenzz

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I'm planning a new cycle..

several options possible...goal is to gain ass much MASS as possible, bulking time but clean!


- Havoc for 4 weeks @ 30 mg solo OR Emax solo @ 20-30mg/day ( more like 30 mg -> see cycle experience.. )


- Havoc + MAX lmg : Max LMG for 4 weeks @ 75 mg adding havoc in the third week @ 30 mg day => 6 weeks total or take them both at the same time for 4 weeks


- Emax + Max LMG : Max LMG for 4 weeks @ 75 mg adding emax in the third @ 20-30 mg day => 6 weeks total OR both at the same time for 4 weeks


- Emax + havoc ?...stacking 2 methyls doesn't sound that good but maybe some people have done it?


My Cycle experience : I did MAX LMG for 4 weeks @ 75 mg , I have also done emax for 4 weeks @ 20 mg...was tempted to try 30 mg but didn't do it cuz of the lower back pumps. And I also did a 4 week prostanozol cycle.

The only thing I am afraid of is the gyno risk on MAX LMG, however I had no trouble when I ran it solo, except about 2 months after cycle my nips felt a bit weird but it went away...with Emax I had some sensitive nips @ week 4 I think. The thing is I still have some puberal gyno so I'm always a little bit afraid, even with nolva on hand...

Suggestions, opinions ?

Thanks for the input guys!
 
Personally of the three options, I would do the havoc and max lmg. IMO the emax would impart better gains, but I would be seriously scared of gyno on that stack. I am assuming that you already have these three substances and thats why you are considering them for your next cycle. I am just wondering if you would consider any other options, because i think there are much better options for stacks rather than these.
 
Havoc and Max LMG sounds interesting to me. Should combat the gyno from the LMG and maybe some of the water weight.
 
See I have a totaly different opinion. Max LMG is a very wet compound and will result in very wet gains where as Havoc is a very dry compound almost cancelling out the gains from Max lmg. I think you would be best to run the emax for 3 weeks incorporating Havoc in at the end of week 3 then for 3 mnore weeks for a total cycle length of 6 weeks. If you really wanted you could incorporate the Max Lmg in the first 3 weeksd with the emax. My reasoning behind this is emax is a very effective compound at generating fiarly lean gains so you could add 5-10 lbs fairly lean then cut water retention and add another 5-10 lbs lean while on Havoc. The end result being a 10+ pound increase, little to no water retention resulting in a totaL BODY recomp and huge gains. This is my 2 cents and is definitly open to arguement.
 
Thanks for the replies guys.

The MAX lmg + havoc does sound interesting indeed, also because of the 'anti-gyno' of the havoc, IF X-mass would cause any...maybe havoc will clear it up?

I wonder why nobody mentioned Emax + MAX lmg since they were made to be stacked together?

@ Haroldjg :' I am just wondering if you would consider any other options, because i think there are much better options for stacks rather than these. '

What do you recommend then?

' I would do the havoc and max lmg. IMO the emax would impart better gains, but I would be seriously scared of gyno on that stack.'

Scared from gyno on Emax and not on Max LMG ?

Greets and thanks, more input always welcome ;)
 
Well here is an idea for a six-weeker I have been thinking about lately, it would incorporate two of the substances you already have, but would require the purchase of propadrol. I have not used propadrol, but have been reading as much as I can about it. To me it just seems like a cleaner version of max lmg. The only reason why I would use propadrol over max lmg is becuase IMO it has less risk of gyno.

week 1
emax 30mgs

week 2
emax 20mgs
propadrol 60mgs

week 3
emax 10mgs
propadrol 60mgs

week 4
havoc 20mgs
propadrol 60mgs

week 5
havoc 30mgs
propadrol 60mgs

week 6
havoc 40mgs

This is pretty advanced oral stack and I wouldnt suggest doing it unless you have taken atleast 2 of the three substances solo before, preferably all 3. The methyls are moderately heavy, but I feel that I myself would be fine on this cycle. As for anyone else, I cant say, it just depends how much experience you have with these substances. With this stack I would expect some pretty dramatic size and strength gains, a very very slight risk of gyno, and a moderate recovery time. NOBODY READING THIS THREAD SHOULD TAKE THIS CYCLE, PROPER PRECAUTIONS SHOULD ALWAYS BE TAKEN INCLUDING HAVE A BUTT LOAD OF NOLVA ON HAND.

EDIT: libido could drop pretty low on this stack as well.
 
Hmm seems like a good cycle ... however I would like to stick to two substances only..3 sounds a little too much ( see my PH experience..)

I'm still not quite sure what to do yet..

I think I have narrowed it down to two choises...


Max LMG
week 1-4 @ 75 mg
+
Havoc
week 2-6 @ 20/30/30/40


Emax LMG
week 1-4 @ 20/30/30/30
+
Havoc
Week 2-6 @ 20/30/30/40

So basically the difference is stacking havoc with a methyl or a non methyl...

The reason why I will take the Emax @ 30 mg's is that I already did a 4 week cycle of Emax @20 mg's and I had almost no side effects beside severe back pumps..

Need some feedback!
 
haroldjg said:
Well here is an idea for a six-weeker I have been thinking about lately, it would incorporate two of the substances you already have, but would require the purchase of propadrol. I have not used propadrol, but have been reading as much as I can about it. To me it just seems like a cleaner version of max lmg. The only reason why I would use propadrol over max lmg is becuase IMO it has less risk of gyno.

week 1
emax 30mgs

week 2
emax 20mgs
propadrol 60mgs

week 3
emax 10mgs
propadrol 60mgs

week 4
havoc 20mgs
propadrol 60mgs

week 5
havoc 30mgs
propadrol 60mgs

week 6
havoc 40mgs

This is pretty advanced oral stack and I wouldnt suggest doing it unless you have taken atleast 2 of the three substances solo before, preferably all 3. The methyls are moderately heavy, but I feel that I myself would be fine on this cycle. As for anyone else, I cant say, it just depends how much experience you have with these substances. With this stack I would expect some pretty dramatic size and strength gains, a very very slight risk of gyno, and a moderate recovery time. NOBODY READING THIS THREAD SHOULD TAKE THIS CYCLE, PROPER PRECAUTIONS SHOULD ALWAYS BE TAKEN INCLUDING HAVE A BUTT LOAD OF NOLVA ON HAND.

EDIT: libido could drop pretty low on this stack as well.
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That would be a great stack. Libido shouldn't hurt to bad since Prop has an anti-e in. Havoc isn't bad on libido is it? I have always heard Ergo was better on sides than LMG. Dude log it or at least keep me updated on this one.
 
Craaazy idea...but who knows :)

Max LMG
week 1-3 @ 75 mg
+
Emax LMG
week 2-5 @ 30 mg
+
Havoc
week 3-6 @ 20/30/40 mg

blah can't make my mind up:frustrate
 
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