What would you stack with Pheraplex?
- 05-06-2007, 08:17 PM
What would you stack with Pheraplex?
If you where to stack anything with Pheraplex currently out, or coming out,what would it be? Let's see dosages, duration and Pct. Don't go crazy with huge spreadsheets or anything.
I'm thinking Epi or maybe 3AD would be nice, along with cycle support and Torm. What are your thoughts?
- 05-06-2007, 08:32 PM
I've been wondering the samething. I got an old bottle of S1+ laying around I might throw that in there.
I'd like to hear some suggestions as well.
- 05-06-2007, 08:46 PM
1)epistane----super anabolic,mild on liver, mild anti-e
2)superdrol-----super anabolic, huge glycogen storage, horrible for liver.
Both have there advantages. Epistane is a mild anti-e so it would clear up any estro issues from the phera, it is also much less harsh so you dont have to feel like you just attempted suicide. However, superdrol has that huge glycogen storage advantage! I just love the way I feel on superdrol, its nothing short of amazing. However, since I love my body, and dont want to die, I would pick epistane.
However two other options still exist in my mind, them both being progestins:
1)Max LMG ---since ergomax lmg and max lmg were originally designed to be stacked together obviusely this would be a good combo considering phera is simply the less androgenic isomer in ergo. This would give massivly huge, sopping wet gains. Please take pictures of the stretch marks.
2)Propadrol---another pretty new projestin. It offers drier gains over max lmg. This seems like it would be the better stack compared to max lmg. Less water weight, more muscle.
All of this combos would be decent on the liver, except of course the superdrol stack which would absolutely kill you.
My overall combo would be the epi/phera run like this:
Huge dry gains for sure. With very little risk of gyno issues.
05-07-2007, 10:48 AM
That looks good Harold, what about Pct? I also have 4 bottles of E LMG from the buying blitz awhile back. I know it's wet so it would do basically what Phera does. Epi looks like a winner here. Sdrol just blew me the hell up though, with flu like symptoms.
05-07-2007, 12:04 PM
HCG 200mcg mon,wed,fri
torr 120mg,90mg,90mg,60mg rest of week
I think PCT could be even lighter than this with HCG in the cycle, but better safe than sorry. I am not an expert on PCT like some other people on the board. This is just a combo of MID and POST cycle therapy I have been thinking about. I havent used it yet, but I think it would be very affective. Of course I would also throw in an anti cort and possibly some IGF-1 if I was feeling rich. This would just be the basic therapy I would inplement.
05-07-2007, 05:58 PM
05-07-2007, 11:12 PM
Not that I am aware of. I was interested in a Phera/SD combo awhile back but just went with Phera. I do believe this would kick ass. Phera/Epi that is. 3ad and Epi also look to be a nice combo possibly.
05-07-2007, 11:19 PM
05-07-2007, 11:25 PM
What about stacking Phera-plex with something like Dermabolics' e-form (formestane)...the e-form would cut down on any bloat caused by the PP as it is an AI and could possibly enhance gains as it converts to an anabolic substance...just something I've been thinking about lately.
05-08-2007, 10:11 AM
I need to read up more on Formastane. There is just so much stuff out there to learn about. Ninjo, If you run it, post your results here. I say go for it.
The thing about running 3ad and Epi is that I have left over Phera I want to go through first.
05-08-2007, 12:21 PM
i'll let you all know VERY soon about stacking with PP and 3-AD
it looks to be a good stack, though!
05-09-2007, 03:36 PM
Could you drop in on this thread with highlights Mace. If you don't, I'm sure we'll all be reading about it in your log anyway.
05-09-2007, 10:01 PM
05-09-2007, 10:13 PM
Alot of guys like Phera with Zol and many have like Phera with TRN as well. Lot of choices without stakcing methyls.
RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
05-10-2007, 07:17 PM
I stacked Phera with Finigenix and.....I won't do that again for sure. I basically dosed the Fini high per Diplomats instructions and had anxiety through the roof.
By Zol you mean Prostanozol? I have considered that in the past.
The best without a doubt for me was Superdrol with all of the sides with it, now if 3ad lives up to it's hype that will take SDs place with me for sure. I am patiently waiting for more 3AD news.
05-10-2007, 07:27 PM
im in the middle of a phera/epistane cycle right now. unfortunately i saw NOTHING from phera. but im at the end of my first week of epistane and im loving it, no sides at all and i feel great with strength gains already.
05-10-2007, 07:31 PM
05-10-2007, 08:19 PM
week 1 phera 20/ m tst 12
week 2 phera 30/ m tst 12
week 3 phera 40
week 4 phera 10/epi 20
week 5 epi 30
week 6 epi 40
week 7 epi 40
i gained 5 pounds in 12 days then stopped tst and lost 2 pounds in 4 days and my strength actually went down, it felt like i came off cycle with no pct. so i stopped phera in the middle of week 3 and started epi, instantly i got better pumps and my strength has gone up a little every workout. i still got pumps and head aches on phera so i dont think it was bunk, i just didnt respond to it.
but i can tell you right now im on epi and feel great, working out is SO much more fun then it was on superdrol.
05-10-2007, 10:27 PM
05-11-2007, 07:41 AM
I took AX Phera and seemed to have similiar things happen. My weight went up gradually but I didn't experience anything close to the carb transport SD provided. I think I gained 10 lbs from what I recall. Some of it was water and fat of course.
05-11-2007, 09:44 AM
05-11-2007, 09:59 AM
From what I recall, I started at 198 and about 12-14% bf. I went up to 213, did PCT for a month, took bulk Sesamin for almost a month, switched to DCP for a month and I now sit at 205 and around 8-10% bf. Next, my first "CVS" ECA Stack to shave the fat off my abs.
I'll say this, fat gets really stubborn when you hit your 30s, but it's going to come off.
I'm anxious to see how that cycle turns out Mace.
05-11-2007, 10:18 AM
here's my idea for a killer stack.........(DISCLAIMER: this represents MY views and NOT those of Anabolic Xtreme!)
Week 1: 450mg 3-AD, 20mg PP
Week 2: 450mg 3-AD, 30mg PP
Week 3: 600mg 3-AD, 30mg PP
Week 4: 600mg 3-AD, 20mg PP, 20mg epi
Week 5: 750mg 3-AD, 30mg epi
Week 6: 750mg 3-AD, 40mg epi
Week 7: 900mg 3-AD, 40mg epi
Week 8: 900mg 3-AD, 40mg epi, MFX 2caps, Retain 3caps
WEEK 9: Toremifene citrate 90mg, HD 2caps/d, Retain 3caps, MFX 4caps
WEEK 10: Toremifene citrate 60mg, HD 2caps, Retain 2caps, MFX 4caps
WEEK 11: Toremifene citrate 30mg, HD 3caps, Retain 2caps, MFX 4caps
WEEK 12: Toremifene citrate 30mg, HD 3caps, MFX 4caps, Retain 1cap
WEEK 13: Toremifene citrate 15mg, HD 4caps, MFX 4caps, Retain 1 cap
WEEK 14: HD 4caps, MFX 2caps
05-11-2007, 11:29 AM
05-11-2007, 01:56 PM
05-11-2007, 07:23 PM
That looks solid Mace. Can you give me a little quick info on the compounds and their order of application. What I see is size and strength first, drying out with size and strength followed by hardening up along with muscle gain preservation. There are so many new things out there that I'm just trying to catch up.
I know Phera,Retain, a little about HD, torm.
Epi is dry with gains and strength similiar to SD or is that 3ad?
I know Epi is great for preexisting gyno from what I've read. Thanks
05-14-2007, 11:47 PM
thus you should have a KILLER cycle that easily puts on some NICE MASS!
and yes you are using a methyl for 8 weeks, but epi is less harsh than most methyls, to each their own, NO ONE has to follow this routine and it was just some of my internal thoughts of a GREAT cycle........
if you don't like it, don't do it, or better yet, speak up and improve upon it!
05-16-2007, 09:53 AM
05-16-2007, 03:22 PM
PP, MAX LMG(xmass), 3-AD, Epistane, Superdrol and Testosterone Enanthate. All for one beautiful cycle.
05-16-2007, 03:27 PM
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