Can someone give me the rundown on 4AD?

  1. Can someone give me the rundown on 4AD?

    I did a search but didnt really find what i was looking for. Why is it so popular. It seems like everyone thinks its great to stack with mostly anything. Im just trying to figure out why. What are its benefits and disadvantages.

  2. I wasn't around when it was popular, but I believe 4-ad is a direct precursor to testosterone.
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  3. There's a little bit of information on the prohormone wiki page;

    Prohormone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    but basically as stxnas said it's a test precursor. Given how we're always being told that test should be the foundation of any cycle, you can see why it was a popular addition to stacks with users who don't want to inject.

  4. and ive always heard it helps combat the sides

  5. The only one that I know of is libido issues. Something like deca can really kill a lot of people's libidos, so most people won't touch it without test.
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  6. so you are saying 4ad will help with libdio issues

  7. Yep thats what hes saying and it will.

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  8. Quote Originally Posted by freezito View Post
    so you are saying 4ad will help with libdio issues

    Hell ya is all I can say. Its much better than any of the crap thats legal today, and its not harsh on your liver.

  9. supposed to help with lethargy also, from what I have heard

  10. I thought I had read that too, but I wasn't sure so I didn't mention it. I guess that confirms it though.
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  11. Yep, good stuff. Converts to test, likely has some androgenic activity unto itself but does also convert readily to estradiol so have an AI ready.

  12. I had great results from 4ad orally back in the day but I was taking alot...transdermal seems to be the way to go to get the most bang for your buck.....

  13. 400mg of trans 4AD w/ 150mg of trans 1-Test was so much fun...too bad it is not around anymore.

  14. well unf. i dont have access to transdermal but oral. how much per day is recommended.

  15. Is it already in caps/tabs? The thing about 4AD is that it has a very low oral bioavailability so you have to use about 1g/day. If it is not in caps, then just buy some penetrate from nutraplanet.

  16. Its the best thing out there. Makes you feel like your in your 20's again!. 1 test/4ad trans stack is the best. 600 mg 1 test, 1000mg 4 ad!. Super high libido and you'll feel great, nothing like this METHYL-CRAP these days!.

  17. i got three bottles. 200mg per cap. 60 count per bottle. im running a four week cycle so i should be able to run it at 1000 mg a day if thats what it takes.

  18. I would take both those bottles and empty the caps into some Penetrate. This will yield about 7.2 grams of 4AD which will give you a pretty respectable transdermal run. Then you can run Epi/Havoc to minimize the bloat and gain like a mofo.

    And I agree..I miss the non-methylated days of yore. The most we worried about then was gyno, but these days it's gyno and liver/cholesterol annihilation and lengthy recovery times.

  19. hmm, sounds like a winner. if u could tell me the exact formulat and dosages and all that, id do it. also where does one get penetrate?

  20. Penetrate is at NP. With 7 grams of 4AD, you'd get approximately a good dose of hormone (meaning I can't remember so look it up).

  21. please tell me your not talking about this....

    Serving Size: 1 Capsule
    Servings Per Container: 60

    Amount Per Serving:

    Diandrone Ethyl Ester 150mg
    1,4,6 etioallocholan-dione 3mg
    Beta Sitosterol 100mg
    Quercetin 50mg

    Other Ingredients:
    Pyrolsate acetate, gelatin, magnesium stearate, silica.

    anyone else even think this stuff is legit or just a newer precursor trash?

  22. or how bout this....
    What's In It?
    Supplement Facts:

    Serving Size: 1 Capsule
    Servings Per Container: 60

    Amount Per Serving:

    1, 2-Dehydroisoandrosterone 100mg
    Quercetin 50mg
    Milk Thistle 50mg

    Other Ingredients:
    Pyrolsate acetate, gelatin, magnesium stearate, silica

    sounds like they just like usin the name to sell their cocktail supps... anyone care to weigh in????

    edited: thanks for not absolutely flamin me on that one shouldda updated myself on the stickies upon returning.

  23. Hey Poopy, the rules have changed a lot since you have you been're no longer allowed to source post and it is a bannable offense. You might want to edit your posts

    Check out this thread: 4-AD by AMS...any good?
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  24. Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    There was a thread in this forum that went into detail about that bad boy. From what I understood from the thread, it's a direct precursor to 4-AD. So in essence, it's a precursor of a precursor. But judging from that write-up, it looks like it's just DHEA and ATD. (1,4,6-etioallocholan-dione = ATD. Diandrone I'm pretty sure is just DHEA).
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