Pre/Post Superdrol Stats...Help with gyno.

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    Cool Pre/Post Superdrol Stats...Help with gyno.


    Alright, I'll try to make this as short as possible.

    Ran Phera for 2 weeks, followed by 1 week of superdrol. Went 10mg for 3 days, then bumped it up to 20mg. Pretty good gains, very pleased. Honestly everybody I know says "Youre taking steroids", and I have to do the whole "I take something call hard work".

    I have one of those bodyfat scales. Its pretty expensive (Got it as a gift), actullay very expensive, so I can assume its as accurate as possible.

    Pre- Superdrol...Post Superdrol
    Height: 5'11.5...5'11.5
    Weight: 199...216.4
    Body Fat: 19.8...20.1
    Body Water: 55.4...55.3
    Muscle Mass: 151.0...164.4
    Bone Mass: 7.8...8.4
    Visceral Fat: 4...5

    All lifts went up. Bench went from 185 6x to 185 16x. 225 1x to 225 5x

    Now thats great and all, but 20% body fat is too high. My fat is mainly around my chest and my obliques. I am having a big problem with gyno. Have had gyno since I was about 12, kind of chubby, and also the "fat band" that stretches from nipple to under the armpit. My chest looks great when its cold out, but not great when its normal. There was no real "gyno flareup", its always been like that. Nipples are not tender at all.

    I am currently on day 2 of PCT. Heres what it looks like.
    Wk 1: Nolva 60mg. 3 caps retain. Vigor antioxidant. Cycle Support.
    Wk 2: Nolva 40mg. 3 caps retain. Vigor. Cycle Support
    Wk 3: Nolva 20mg. 2 caps retain. Vigor. Cycle Support
    Wk 4: Nolva 10mg. 2 caps retain. Vigor. Cycle Support

    After this is over (+ time to recover from PCT) I would like to jump in to a gyno reducing cycle. Whether it be letro, ralox, etc., I just need to do something. I would like to lose fat and have the old Red Acid by Controlled Labs in my drawer, but would like advice with that as well.

    Help a brother out

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    thats weird you were the same height before and after
    Theres plenty of info on gyno reducing logs around here. run a search and should find your answers.
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    2 things...body fat most def. came from too many calories....and the gyno....get some atd or go for a serm if its real bad....atd usually kills it for me
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    What I also thought was interesting was my bone mass going from 7.8 to 8.4...I took a few readings before my cycle and every one was exactly 7.8. That seems like a significant jump. Maybe the scales confusing it wiht something else.
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    Those BF scales are NOT at all accurate, especially for muscular people. (Doesn't matter how expensive it is... they all work based on the same principle.) If you gain 15 lbs of pure muscle on a cycle (even if you gain 20 lbs of pure muscle and lose 5 lbs of fat), the BF scale will still say that your BF has gone up. I wouldn't trust it too much. If it says that your BF only went up .3% after a 17 lb gain, in all likelihood your BF actually went down.

    I have a high-end Tanita BF scale and it consistently says my BF is 30-35%. In reality it is about 15%. Get some calipers.

    All that said, I agree that 20% BF is too high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kjkriston View Post
    2 things...body fat most def. came from too many calories....and the gyno....get some atd or go for a serm if its real bad....atd usually kills it for me
    whats a serm and whats ATD?
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