First off let me just say hi to everyone as this is my first post on this site. Now to the question! The above stack, anyone see any problems. Surely this would be a great stack for some dry lean gains and some fat loss!
Am i right?

depends on a number of variables.Originally Posted by kruz
1. your age
2. experience with compounds such as methyls
3. diet
4. training
5. years lifting
6. etc etc
the list could go on
try posting in the steroids section.
good luck
p.s:
I believe that these two products would work well together assuming you had everything else (diet, training, ancillaries, pct) in order.
I'm thinking to run AP with havoc too, eventually with a PP kickstart of 2 weeks.
have most found Havoc to increase or decrease libido?
Mr.50
Originally Posted by Syr
Personally, it gives me an increase.
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No decrease, but I dont usually have a libido issue (SD, ATD did nothing), except the first 2 weeks of PCT for obvious reasons.
Anyone know when havoc will be released again, i can't find it at NP.
Look at suprememuscle.com
Last edited by Syr; 01-20-2007 at 04:19 PM.
Just make sure you have a good PCT.
I **cked with it on superdrol and got it pretty bad... Lethargy and got my libido far far from what it used to be on cycle...
Havoc seems pretty good according to many posting people... Mine is coming from suprememuscle with novedex as PCT... I'll stack it with NGORGE from alri and STIMX from AX oncycle and during PCT...
Should be pretty good!
Good Luck in you progress!
Rammfanx
Thanks for the help.
are you gonna overlap them? that could wreak havoc (no pun intended) on your liver stacking these two methyls. wouldnt something like x-mass or m-trn be a better option?Originally Posted by Syr
No, I wont run both at the same time, except the transition week.Originally Posted by WannaBeHulk
Look at the planned cycle here:
Syr's Starting2007 with a Lean Bulk