I appreciate your reply....maybe I should be clear in my question...many have used it,however..on forums ,you come across a lot of younger guys, that have no clue what they are doing,and are re-luctant to learn..as mentioned in my post...I have been training over 40 yrs-not 4 yrs...40.. am 2x as old as many on here,and as I said ,I have been around the block...when something requires a question.I seek someone who has first hand experience ,and can give a little feedback ,that is rational..example...if someone asked about trest ace..there would be dozens of guys with replys,,but how many of them,are running the compound properly, or have run it properly...maybe 10 % ..the rest read online info,from others that megadose everything and repeat the nonsense they hear..that is not rational..it is foolish..so I would ask...if anyone has had experience with it .or the old M1T compound not the Oxime, and can compare them,,that would be helpful..