Anyone cycled lgd 3303 yet?

[solidsnake]

Well, have you? I'm curious as there's not much info yet apart from a guy on Reddit who posted his bloods too...

 

[polarcat]

ok....is this LGD4033 or LGD3033? Because I thought it was always LGD4033 but then we, at this store I work at, got in a blend of SARMs with LGD3033 and I just thought it was a typo?

 

[solidsnake]

No typo bro I mean lgd 3303, it's a newer sarm. Supposed to be a long more anabolic than 4033 with less sides, the guy who cycled it on Reddit still had something over 350 t test after 6 weeks...

 

[solidsnake]

There is a lot of companies that typo sarms though for some strange reason...

 

[polarcat]

No typo bro I mean lgd 3303, it's a newer sarm. Supposed to be a long more anabolic than 4033 with less sides, the guy who cycled it on Reddit still had something over 350 t test after 6 weeks...

i just did some extensive research (furious googling, scanning, right clicking and new tabbing) and couldn't find a whole lot....hopefully someone can add to it, I do see that its a different compound and it does seem pretty new.....very interested.

 

[solidsnake]

We need a guinea pig

 

[polarcat]

I'll do it. BTW: LGD 3033 is Anamorelin which is just like MK 677 but more potent.

so it's like a growth hormone secretagogue?

 

[solidsnake]

Sorry bro it's not, there's been confusion about this before

 

[NewAgeMayan]

I'll do it. BTW: LGD 3033 is Anamorelin which is just like MK 677 but more potent.

Dont think so:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19017848

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18847323

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20392832

 

[solidsnake]

I'll do it. BTW: LGD 3033 is Anamorelin which is just like MK 677 but more potent.

Still want to do it bro? It sounds like it's gonna be goood sh1t

 

[theoutcasted]

I actually just started my cycle of LGD 3033 this morning at a split 20mg a day, I'll keep you guys updated with any progress I had with it. Also running Stenabolic at split 20mg a day. I've taken Ligandrol a handful of times and have *kept* about 8 pounds from it so I'll compare as I go along, let's hope it works well!

 

[mike33511]

I actually just started my cycle of LGD 3033 this morning at a split 20mg a day, I'll keep you guys updated with any progress I had with it. Also running Stenabolic at split 20mg a day. I've taken Ligandrol a handful of times and have *kept* about 8 pounds from it so I'll compare as I go along, let's hope it works well!

You should log it.

 

[theoutcasted]

You should log it.

I'm fairly new to this site so I don't know a lot of the language used involving sarms, pros, and etc. so please bare with me. What do you mean by log it?

 

[solidsnake]

I actually just started my cycle of LGD 3033 this morning at a split 20mg a day, I'll keep you guys updated with any progress I had with it. Also running Stenabolic at split 20mg a day. I've taken Ligandrol a handful of times and have *kept* about 8 pounds from it so I'll compare as I go along, let's hope it works well!

Yeah please log it bro and tag me in, I personally would have saved my money on the sr unless the bioavailability issues have been addressed. I was chatting to a company today from the uk who reckon they have 3303 at 98.5% plus purity my only issue is the name of the lab, maybe it's just me...

 

[solidsnake]

He means start a new thread in the anabolic section and everyday you write on the thread telling your doses, workouts and stats, like a diary

 

[solidsnake]

Plus any other info that's relevant to the cycle

 

[theoutcasted]

He means start a new thread in the anabolic section and everyday you write on the thread telling your doses, workouts and stats, like a diary

I'll run a log of it as soon as I get the chance today, I'll make sure to tag you guys in it and keep it updated regularly. This way we can all see if it's decent or not. I'll gladly be the guinea pig

 

[solidsnake]

You the man! I hope it works out bro, if you can post some pics too, I wouldn't blame you if you didn't want to but pics are proof and with a new compound like this pics could be the real maker of it ?

 

[theoutcasted]

You the man! I hope it works out bro, if you can post some pics too, I wouldn't blame you if you didn't want to but pics are proof and with a new compound like this pics could be the real maker of it ?

I'll definitely end up posting pics, weekly more than likely. 8 week cycle should be sufficient with these compounds

 

[solidsnake]

Agreed, and yeah weekly pics is cool bro.

 

[NewAgeMayan]

I'll definitely end up posting pics, weekly more than likely. 8 week cycle should be sufficient with these compounds

Just to ask the obvious: PCT?

 

[solidsnake]

Just to ask the obvious: PCT?

Lgd3303 is a sarm not a gh secretagogue though, correct NewAgeMayan? And also it's not anamorelin?

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Lgd3303 is a sarm not a gh secretagogue though, correct NewAgeMayan? And also it's not anamorelin?

Yes, thats my understanding.

The developmental code names for anamorelin (ONO-7643, RC-1291, ST-1291) are clearly nothing like that for Ligand Pharmaceuticals compound (LGD-3303). I have no idea why people and RCs are conflating the two. Anamorelin is currently in phase ll studies I believe, whereas LGD-3303 is still pre-clinical (ie rats).

The compound LGD-3303 that is being researched by Ligand is most definitely a SARM. Straight from the horses mouth:

http://investor.ligand.com/press-releases/detail/81/ligand-announces-positive-preclinical-data-on-selective

Ergolog article that did a HED conversion too:

http://ergo-log.com/lg121071-acp-105-lgd-3303-sarms.html

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Yes, thats my understanding.

The developmental code names for anamorelin (ONO-7643, RC-1291, ST-1291) are clearly nothing like that for Ligand Pharmaceuticals compound (LGD-3303). I have no idea why people and RCs are conflating the two. Anamorelin is currently in phase ll studies I believe, whereas LGD-3303 is still pre-clinical (ie rats).

The compound LGD-3303 that is being researched by Ligand is most definitely a SARM. Straight from the horses mouth:

http://investor.ligand.com/press-releases/detail/81/ligand-announces-positive-preclinical-data-on-selective

Ergolog article that did a HED conversion too:

http://ergo-log.com/lg121071-acp-105-lgd-3303-sarms.html

I would be very sceptical on this one personally, there is obviously a reason why LP chose to go into clinical trials with 4033 and not this.

 

[NewAgeMayan]

I would be very sceptical on this one personally, there is obviously a reason why LP chose to go into clinical trials with 4033 and not this.

Yeah, I havent gone full-geek-mode with this yet. Maybe the a:a was better with 4033.

 

[rrosari5]

Yeah please log it bro and tag me in, I personally would have saved my money on the sr unless the bioavailability issues have been addressed. I was chatting to a company today from the uk who reckon they have 3303 at 98.5% plus purity my only issue is the name of the lab, maybe it's just me...

Which bioavailability issues are you referring to?

 

[solidsnake]

With sr9009

 

[solidsnake]

LGD3303 is at 98.5%+. Think of it as the big brother of LGD4033. It appears to be more anabolic and hold less water retention, so it should be great for a lean bulk. Users should expect to add serious mass over 4-8 weeks. Sites like pubmed.com are great for further information as studies are limited currently.

 

[solidsnake]

I got the above message from a lab in the uk today

 

[mmorso]

Subbed.. theoutcasted tag me to your log.. definitely interested in this

 

[solidsnake]

The 98.5 thing was there purity, they also have 3rd party tested sheets for ppl that buy

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Yeah, I havent gone full-geek-mode with this yet. Maybe the a:a was better with 4033.

If you want the full texts let me know

 

[solidsnake]

Post em up bro so we can all get the knowledge

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Post em up bro so we can all get the knowledge

Human equiv dosages for an 80kg man where min 0.8mg(0.3mg/kg/day) - max 266.67mg(100mg/kg/day)

Half life average around 5ish hours

And LMFAO at that email you recieved, how the fk can they make any comments on this being the "bigger brother" to lgd-4033. There is zero human data here for this compound, compared to ligandrol. From what im seeing, that is a completely inaccurate statement anyways.

 

[solidsnake]

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Human equiv dosages for an 80kg man where min 0.8mg(0.3mg/kg/day) - max 266.67mg(100mg/kg/day)

Half life average around 5ish hours

And LMFAO at that email you recieved, how the fk can they make any comments on this being the "bigger brother" to lgd-4033. There is zero human data here for this compound, compared to ligandrol. From what im seeing, that is a completely inaccurate statement anyways.

I was thinking that myself, that's why I was hoping someone would run it. Maybe we get lucky maybe we don't, let's see how this log goes. But also don't forget that sometimes studies come to a halt because the compound ends up doing the job there looking for but also does other undesirable things. Maybe in this case it did do what there were looking for but it turned out to be too anabolic. Look at viagra; initially invented for hypertension and other heart related deseases turned out to be the mans best friend especially after a night out on the ale

 

[NewAgeMayan]

View attachment 143106

Human equiv dosages for an 80kg man where min 0.8mg(0.3mg/kg/day) - max 266.67mg(100mg/kg/day)

Half life average around 5ish hours

And LMFAO at that email you recieved, how the fk can they make any comments on this being the "bigger brother" to lgd-4033. There is zero human data here for this compound, compared to ligandrol. From what im seeing, that is a completely inaccurate statement anyways.

Howd you determine the half life bro.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Howd you determine the half life bro.

Final column of bottom table, measured in hours.

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Final column of bottom table, measured in hours.

Ah, clever, did not consider that thanks brah. Wonder why the 30mg/kg dose was so much different.

 

[solidsnake]

So according to the charts what would be the best dosage?

 

[justhere4comm]

3x daily.

 

[NewAgeMayan]

So according to the charts what would be the best dosage?

If you mean daily amount, Id think that the best we could do atm given the limited data we have on 3303 is to maybe compare the levator ani growth /mg of 3303 and 4033 and extrapolate from there.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

So according to the charts what would be the best dosage?

Impossible to say given no human data, i honestly don't know how well rat data can be extrapolated into human data with this. In saying that, it seems people had no problem discovering effective dosages for Rad etc. given my experience with 4033, there is a linear increase in anabolism in increasing dosages. Ive done up to 16mg ed day and get the feeling 20 would be even better.

 

[solidsnake]

I've done 20mg and I loved it, I guess we'll have to wait for our guinea pig to see results, he's on 20mg split doses

 

[NewAgeMayan]

I've done 20mg and I loved it, I guess we'll have to wait for our guinea pig to see results, he's on 20mg split doses

Whats the reddit thread called bro

 

[solidsnake]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/PEDs/comments/54cfvb/ped_log_6_week_lgd3303_cycle_the_ineffectiveness/?client=safari

 

[solidsnake]

The titles really long so there's the link bro ?

 

[NewAgeMayan]

The titles really long so there's the link bro ��

Interesting that his e2 increased by approx 50%.

 

[justhere4comm]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/PEDs/comments/54cfvb/ped_log_6_week_lgd3303_cycle_the_ineffectiveness/?client=safari

So, went to that link and this person cycled SARMS 10-12x? He's only 28. Only OTC / PCT as well?
I'm just wondering about his reality versus ours.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

So, went to that link and this person cycled SARMS 10-12x? He's only 28. Only OTC / PCT as well?
I'm just wondering about his reality versus ours.

That comments section is full of potato.

 

[solidsnake]

Haha yes it is, also noticed his test was around 350 at the end of the cycle...