Help making a cutting stack

[jakro]

I've used 1Andro before, also did a Epi cycle when it was still legal. But used it more of a lean bulking cycle than cutting.

I want to start cutting for the summer but I'm not sure about what to take with whats left. Thought about Ostashred, EpiAndro but I'm looking for opinions on what could be the best stack. I'm willing to do a 2-3 compound stack this go around. I still have half a bottle of Nolva which should be fine for my PCT and a estrogen derma blocker, forgot what its called.

Thanks

 

[Dma378]

Ostar1ne and Ep1c are fantastic on a cut. I speak from first hand experience. Great muscle preservation, pump, and vascularity of Osta combined with the endurance increase of Ep1c is a nice run. Use the code in my signature DMA30 for 30% off both at our website.

 

[NurseGray]

I love my T2 by mind and muscle. Throw some of that in there.

 

[jakro]

How long can I be on Ostarine for and do I need OCT and PCT for that? I plan to do 20mg a day.

 

[Dma378]

8 weeks is a good run at 20mg. I always recommend a SERM and Test Booster pct. Also recommend having an AI on hand in case of estrogen sides. Some have them, some don't. I personally had to use an AI a couple times a week at around the 4th week.

 

[NurseGray]

Usually 4-6 weeks. Some say no PCT but I would jump on just to be on the safe side. It definitly won't hurt.

 

[jakro]

for EPIC, can I dose 2 pills a day or is that too much? whats recommended dosage for that?

 

[Dma378]

for EPIC, can I dose 2 pills a day or is that too much? whats recommended dosage for that?

2 caps pre workout, 1 cap on off days is a typical dosing scheme.

 

[jakro]

How fast is international shipping from Olympus Labs? Is it worth ordering from the main site or from nutri verse for example where its a tad cheaper but might take longer

 

[Dma378]

I'll find that out for you.

 

[jakro]

Its going to Canada by the way

 

[Dma378]

Got it. In that case I would assume not any longer. I sent the boss a text, so I will confirm once I hear back.

 

[vujade]

Ostar1ne and Ep1c are fantastic on a cut. I speak from first hand experience.
Great muscle preservation, pump, and vascularity of Osta combined with the endurance increase of Ep1c is a nice run.
Use the code in my signature DMA30 for 30% off both at our website.

^^this plus some PN Andro 300 Epi Andro would be a helluva stack. Epi Andro will keep you libido up (Osta effected my
labido when ran solo) plus it will give you strength aggression and firm up your muscles too.

 

[jakro]

So a stack of

EP1C
Ostar1ne
PN ANdro 300
Epi Andro

Wouldn't that be too much? also would I need a OCT if I did all this? how much better would it be if I did all 4, or maybe just included EpiAndro to the original stack.

 

[McCrew530]

Andro 300 is a topical epi Andro

 

[hvactech]

Have you researched any of the products youre wanting to take? Whats your tdee?

 

[vujade]

So a stack of

EP1C
Ostar1ne
PN ANdro 300
Epi Andro

Wouldn't that be too much? also would I need a OCT if I did all this? how much better would it be if I did all 4,
or maybe just included EpiAndro to the original stack.

Even if you just did Osta you will need a PCT

 

[vujade]

i would run it like this....

Ostar1ne: 20mg once per day in the morning
PN Andro 300: 150mg twice a day (once after AM shower & once after PM shower)
EpiAndro: 300mg once a day before working out
Ep1c: as directed on bottle

 

[jakro]

I've researched them, was looking at Osta for the last week or two.

My tdee is around 2800-3100. I workout 5 times a week, some days are more intense than others, like super sets, drop sets and all that. Can't do that everyday.

I have Nolva on deck and also an AI. So my PCT isn't a problem. Will need to pick up a test booster though.

 

[hvactech]

Run ostarine and epi andro for 8 weeks, pct... take 12 weeks off

 

[jakro]

How good will my workouts and my cut be on

Ostarine
PN Andro 300
EPIC

 

[Dma378]

How good will my workouts and my cut be on

Ostarine
PN Andro 300
EPIC

100% depends on your diet bro. Workouts will surely be intensified, but cut is diet dependant.

 

[Dma378]

And assuming you do have your diet dialed in for a proper cut, they will maintain muscle, give you a hard look, awesome glycogen retention so you'll look fuller even if dropping fat. But that all starts with diet.

 

[hvactech]

How good will my workouts and my cut be on

Ostarine
PN Andro 300
EPIC

How can anyone realistically answer this question

 

[McCrew530]

How can anyone realistically answer this question

My work outs would be killer I would add in some epic and 11oxo tough and drop the oral epi Andro

 

[hvactech]

My work outs would be killer I would add in some epic and 11oxo tough and drop the oral epi Andro

He listed epic...

Whats 11oxo ;-)

 

[McCrew530]

He listed epic...

Whats 11oxo ;-)

Lol that's what I get for trying to be a smart ass while driving. Idk just a little compound that seems to be a bad ass transdermal

 

[vujade]

Lol that's what I get for trying to be a smart ass while driving.
Idk just a little compound that seems to be a bad ass transdermal

Really...? Who makes it..? :mischievous:

 

[jakro]

Since I'm doing 8 weeks of Ostarine/Epic, and the 11 oxo and andro 300 are only 4 weeks a bottle. Would it be best if I started those two derms 4 weeks into my Osta cycle?

 

[McCrew530]

That's what I would do I like to finish cycles strong rather than jump starting them

 

[jakro]

quick question, can I run either Andro 300 or 11 oxo, maybe both for 8 weeks during this cycle? and does anyone know any codes for orbit nutrition to get a % off?