Prohormone as a kickstart to test e

[jwstoick]

I have a prohormone on hand that has 25mg Trenavar, 40mg Epistane and 200mg Furazadrol. I am going to be running test e 12-15 weeks at 500mg a week and Adex EOD. Would it be a good idea to use the prohormone as a kickstart to the test?

 

[Goliath1]

I'd pick a different kicker.. That won't kick anything..

 

[jwstoick]

So if I started it 2 weeks before my first pin and ran it 6-8 weeks it wouldn't do anything? Is it that it won't kick in fast enough or just you don't like the profile?

 

[Goliath1]

So if I started it 2 weeks before my first pin and ran it 6-8 weeks it wouldn't do anything? Is it that it won't kick in fast enough or just you don't like the profile?

I don't like the profile and imo it really isn't a kicker by any means.. I've seen people use compounds that are in there as kickers but it doesn't make sense to me..

Sd, Dmz, Msten, Dbol, those are a few kickers I'd use.. Or just get some Prop..

 

[jwstoick]

Ok thanks for your response!

 

[stann123]

The point of a kicker is to get something fast acting. So....

 

[Abe Lincoln]

I love me some dmz, long half life as well.

 

[heavylifter33]

Things i like for kicker: SD, DMZ, dbol, tbol, high dose msten, anadrol.

 

[jwood10]

With the OTC stuff i would use Super-DMZ 2.0 by blackstone. i ran the original super-dmz by IML that had superdrol in it and i gained 20 lb in 4 weeks. The new formula has m-sten in place of superdrol. i just started m-sten and have gained 7 lb. i contribute 4 lb to sten and 3 lb. to food.....

 

[RickyBlobby]

You guys are forgetting about m1,4ADD- the dianabol precursor. Celtic labs sells it as celtic one. Probably the best prohormone kicker as it converts to dbol

 

[aoeu]

So if I started it 2 weeks before my first pin and ran it 6-8 weeks it wouldn't do anything? Is it that it won't kick in fast enough or just you don't like the profile?

Isn't the point of a kicker to get your androgen levels up immediately, while waiting for your long ester to build up? Why would you start taking it before your first pin? That seems like two extra weeks of HPTA suppression that aren't being productive with your long ester.

 

[jwstoick]

Starting the ph two weeks prior to first pin would give time for the androgen to build up and would be in full gear once the test finally kicked in

 

[LeanEngineer]

Starting the ph two weeks prior to first pin would give time for the androgen to build up and would be in full gear once the test finally kicked in

Have you decided what your gunna use to kickstart?

 

[jwstoick]

Probably since I already have that mix of compounds I'll start it 2 weeks before my first test e pin

 

[RickyBlobby]

You wouldn't be disappointed in celtic one I know several people who use it. It is very legit for a kicker. 30mg/ day

 

[superbeast668]

Epi is pretty nice around 100mg I've heard... Could be an ok kick start. I'd just go with a handful of dbols every day personally.

 

[HardEarned]

Can one do Dbol as a kickstart to a test e cycle and epi for the second half of the cycle? lets say 10 week cycle

 

[Goliath1]

Can one do Dbol as a kickstart to a test e cycle and epi for the second half of the cycle? lets say 10 week cycle

Yup

 

[HardEarned]

Yup

NOICE! Im thinking that for my first cycle. Maybe test C actually. for the sex drive

 

[superbeast668]

Can one do Dbol as a kickstart to a test e cycle and epi for the second half of the cycle? lets say 10 week cycle

I would recommend blood work between orals. Because of what they can do to liver and lipids it'd be the safest route. I'm sure you could and chances are high you'd be fine.

I'd run test e minimum 12 weeks though. Then you could do dbols for 4 weeks, 4 off, 6 weeks of epi to close.

 

[superbeast668]

NOICE! Im thinking that for my first cycle. Maybe test C actually. for the sex drive

There's no difference in sex drive between different esters of test.

 

[HardEarned]

I read that test c has a little more water retention and a 7-8 day half life where test e has less water retention, less sex drive, and a 5 day half life

 

[Montego1]

I read that test c has a little more water retention and a 7-8 day half life where test e has less water retention, less sex drive, and a 5 day half life

Wrong. Test is test. The body doesn't dissern one ester from another. Just one hormone from another.

 

[superbeast668]

I read that test c has a little more water retention and a 7-8 day half life where test e has less water retention, less sex drive, and a 5 day half life

if anything test c dosed at 250mg/ml would be slightly less than e at the same dose since there's less testosterone in 250mg of cyp due to its heavier ester weights. But no. Totally doesn't work that way. 500mg of test of any ester or combination of esters and I'm banging any slut that gives me the time of day.

 

[jwstoick]

So if I were to get a differnt kickstart would I be able to run the epi/tren mix at the end while the esters clear before pct or would it be best to just not kickstart and then add the epi/tren at the end to tighten up

 

[mixedup]

Can one do Dbol as a kickstart to a test e cycle and epi for the second half of the cycle? lets say 10 week cycle

I wouldn't not enough time off

 

[jwstoick]

So you would say go one or the other but since i already have epi/tren ph on hand just use that at the end?

 

[Spartacus1]

So you would say go one or the other but since i already have epi/tren ph on hand just use that at the end?

You'll be fine running dbol upfront an Epi or/& Tren in the rear...

 

[jwstoick]

This is also my first cycle other than a few prohormones that I've done. Here is what I'm looking at tell me if it's too much.

Test E wk 1-12

Celtic labs Celtic one wk 1-4

The epi/tren mix wk 6-14 or 8-14 up until a day before pct

 

[Spartacus1]

I'd go with the 8-14 choice..

 

[jwstoick]

So that looks like a good setup even for being a first run of actual gear? Nothing too over the top?

 

[jwstoick]

Also would you go Celtic One or Msten for the kick?

 

[damn shame]

Can one do Dbol as a kickstart to a test e cycle and epi for the second half of the cycle? lets say 10 week cycle

If running test e I would run it for at least 12 weeks.

This is also my first cycle other than a few prohormones that I've done. Here is what I'm looking at tell me if it's too much.

Test E wk 1-12

Celtic labs Celtic one wk 1-4

The epi/tren mix wk 6-14 or 8-14 up until a day before pct

I'd go with 8 to 14

 

[Spartacus1]

So that looks like a good setup even for being a first run of actual gear? Nothing too over the top?

Looks fine...

I'm on a similar cycle myself..
Little longer and more orals but you'll be gtg..

Take your support supps etc and get it in..
Keep an eye on everything as always..

 

[jwstoick]

Awesome thanks I really appreciate it!