Serms stunting growth

[Bob23]

I have read things on SERMs stunting growth. Do you think its true. BTW I have done a cycle and am now on pct, so Im not really worried about it, I just found it interesting.

 

[Ancalagon]

Well, you shouldn't be running cycles unless you are AT LEAST 21 and fully grown, so I don't see where this could be an issue. It certainly won't stunt "muscle growth", but I was assuming you meant physically growing, as in, "a growing young lad needs to eat his _____".

 

[reps4jesus]

How old are you?

 

[Bob23]

I am 20

 

[rosemont83]

I am 20

I think it is true.
Therefore you should stay away until about 25..
Unless you want to stunt your growth...

Amiright guyz?

 

[jbryand101b]

Estrogen closes growth plates.

Depending on the serms interaction with the er, will determine if this would happen or not.

 

[reps4jesus]

I am 20

I was over 6 foot by 14 or 15 so I didn't have to worry about stunting my growth. If you are afraid of it then I wouldn't recommend cycling.

 

[Bob23]

Well I just finished a light ph cycle. I think I can get away with using an otc product for pct.

 

[reps4jesus]

Well I just finished a light ph cycle. I think I can get away with using an otc product for pct.

What was the cycle

 

[Bob23]

Halo Extreme. I have heard of many people not even doing pct with this. I really don't think a serm is needed.

 

[Ancalagon]

My rule is that if it is truly a cycle (a prohormone or hormone cycle) you always use a SERM for PCT. Always. Everything else is accessory to a SERM and cannot replace it.

 

[reps4jesus]

Halo Extreme. I have heard of many people not even doing pct with this. I really don't think a serm is needed.

Ha iv ran halo twice. Both times I used a serm. And both times my dong doesn't work normally for 2-4 weeks after the cycle. And I use good support supps. It's much more suppressive than people give it credit for. But don't use a serm...I'm not gonna try and convince you. You'll learn on your own. Don't go by what people say. Do research.

 

[Bob23]

I watched a video that really made me second guess serms. It said that all they do is delay the crash, and estrogen comes in after stopping taking it. I have clomid, but I'd rather save it if I can.

 

[Ancalagon]

Ha iv ran halo twice. Both times I used a serm. And both times my dong doesn't work normally for 2-4 weeks after the cycle. And I use good support supps. It's much more suppressive than people give it credit for. But don't use a serm...I'm not gonna try and convince you. You'll learn on your own. Don't go by what people say. Do research.

Agreed. Use a SERM for PCT for every cycle. Always. Simple as that.

 

[Ancalagon]

I watched a video that really made me second guess serms. It said that all they do is delay the crash, and estrogen comes in after stopping taking it. I have clomid, but I'd rather save it if I can.

Do what you wish, but nearly everyone here and elsewhere who run cycles year after year use SERMs to great effect, including professional body builders and power-lifters. Think what you wish, but there is a reason everyone uses them.

 

[Bob23]

Well I'm worried about stunting growth(I know it was dumb to take a prohormone). I am thinking of taking clomid, along with arimidex to prevent estrogen.

 

[Ancalagon]

Well I'm worried about stunting growth(I know it was dumb to take a prohormone). I am thinking of taking clomid, along with arimidex to prevent estrogen.

You'd be better served by Nolva only. Or Clomid only, since you already have it.

 

[harbonah]

Well I'm worried about stunting growth(I know it was dumb to take a prohormone). I am thinking of taking clomid, along with arimidex to prevent estrogen.

No you do not need both of those..one is an AI the other a SERM use the clomid taper it down 50/50/25/25 done

 

[Bob23]

I know that the clomid is needed for recovery, but would it hurt me to use the arimidex to prevent stunting my growth.

 

[Ancalagon]

I sincerely doubt the AI would have any effect one way or the other on "stunting growth"

 

[Bob23]

Wouldn't it take of estrogen problems?

 

[Ancalagon]

Wouldn't it take of estrogen problems?

Nolvadex or Clomid will block estrogen related problems. AI not needed.

 

[Bob23]

I don't want to take any chances though. Would it be ok to combine them, money is not a problem.

 

[Ancalagon]

I don't want to take any chances though. Would it be ok to combine them, money is not a problem.

You certainly can. I just wouldn't recommend it. But you can. It shouldn't hurt you in terms of stunting growth.

 

[Bob23]

Last question, could I just try an otc pct, then if I feel i need the clomid I use it; or do I need clomid from the start.

 

[Ancalagon]

Last question, could I just try an otc pct, then if I feel i need the clomid I use it; or do I need clomid from the start.

You NEED to take a SERM for PCT always. Don't try without it. Take the SERM. It IS PCT. PCT without a SERM isn't really PCT at all.

 

[Bob23]

Ok I will definately take the clomid. Thank you for the help.

 

[Ancalagon]

Ok I will definately take the clomid. Thank you for the help.

You're welcome.

 

[reps4jesus]

I watched a video that really made me second guess serms. It said that all they do is delay the crash, and estrogen comes in after stopping taking it. I have clomid, but I'd rather save it if I can.

Ohhhh I get it! Yeah you don't need a serm! You saw a video that said you didn't need one! I love how everything on the Internet is true better tell all the vets around here because they are under the impression that serms work, but what do they know!
Lol just playin.
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[jbryand101b]

Well, reduce xt takes care of cortisol.

You can either taper the serm, or use a low dosed ai after the serm.