Test with everything in it?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    Again like I said I didn't say it worked out that way but that was what was intended when they designed Sustanon 250 with the 4 different esters, a long lasting trt injection. What is so hard to believe about that I mean they created the pellets for convenience right.
    regardless.....these two are advocating and advising newbies that injecting sust once per week is ideal and how its best used. That is wrong, and its spreading misinformation.....just because decades ago some numbskull pharmaceutical guy dreamed up a multi-ester test that could be (miraculously) injected once per month or once every two months, that does not mean in the year 2013 these guys should be spreading misinformation. Sorry I'm calling out BS every time, people come here for sound advice, not history lessons about what some dimwit did/thought in 1980 or whatever. The whole "thats what it was created for" was a convenient way out of having said something not very smart. Plain and simple.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    regardless.....these two are advocating and advising newbies that injecting sust once per week is ideal and how its best used. That is wrong, and its spreading misinformation.....just because decades ago some numbskull pharmaceutical guy dreamed up a multi-ester test that could be (miraculously) injected once per month or once every two months, that does not mean in the year 2013 these guys should be spreading misinformation. Sorry I'm calling out BS every time, people come here for sound advice, not history lessons about what some dimwit did/thought in 1980 or whatever. The whole "thats what it was created for" was a convenient way out of having said something not very smart. Plain and simple.
    Man you don't give an inch..lol
    You said Sustanon was designed to be taken EOD and it wasn't. You maybe should've said it works best when injected eod. So you said the BS not me. History lesson over..lol
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  3. And bodybuilders usually taking arimidex or letro wouldn't have to worry about estrogen that much with weekly injections. Now trt guys with no AI that's a different story.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    Man you don't give an inch..lol
    You said Sustanon was designed to be taken EOD and it wasn't. You maybe should've said it works best when injected eod. So you said the BS not me. History lesson over..lol
    by "designed" I mean "how the ester profile is best utilized".....not how the pharmaceutical guy dreamed it up to be used, I have no use for what HE (or she) designed it for. Do we use ANYTHING as "designed" by the originators? AI's? Clomid? etc. etc.....they are still best utilized for controlling estrogen in men or kickstarting the HPTA for our purposes, which is all that matters on an anabolic discussion board....getting the best anabolic effect from whatever we use.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    And bodybuilders usually taking arimidex or letro wouldn't have to worry about estrogen that much with weekly injections. Now trt guys with no AI that's a different story.
    Well, this is pointing out the obvious for no apparent reason. Obviously if you are taking an AI you can inject once per week, the point is that if you DON'T want to use an AI (cycle or trt).....THEN you should inject twice a week to best manage estrogen issues.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    by "designed" I mean "how the ester profile is best utilized".....not how the pharmaceutical guy dreamed it up to be used, I have no use for what HE (or she) designed it for. Do we use ANYTHING as "designed" by the originators? AI's? Clomid? etc. etc.....they are still bes utilized for controlling estrogen in men or kickstarting the HPTA for our purposes, which is all that matters on an anabolic discussion board....getting the best anabolic effect from whatever we use.
    Well that's fine but when I read "Designed" I see the Websters dictionary version definition not AnabolicHolic's definition which means "how the ester profile is best utilized" my bad. So should we call it a night or keep on debating, because I'm pretty sure we could debate all night.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    Well that's fine but when I read "Designed" I see the Websters dictionary version definition not AnabolicHolic's definition which means "how the ester profile is best utilized" my bad. So should we call it a night or keep on debating, because I'm pretty sure we could debate all night.
    c'mon man....admit that the whole "it was actually designed for...." argument is a total cop-out . THEN I'll leave it alone. The actual scientific and logical use for any medicine is what its "designed for".....not what some idiot creator thinks it was designed for, who cares about that? It's just an excuse for posting nonsense.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    c'mon man....admit that the whole "it was actually designed for...." argument is a total cop-out . THEN I'll leave it alone. The actual scientific and logical use for any medicine is what its "designed for".....not what some idiot creator thinks it was designed for, who cares about that? It's just an excuse for posting nonsense.
    I think we are somewhat alike in certain ways and I will NOT do that, because you said what you said and I stand by my argument.

  9. And I never said that I agreed with the monthly or weekly injections.

  10. You guys are found guilty of copping out as well as randomly harassing me and debating everything I say....despite the fact I am always correct (not always always, but always in regards to the stuff you guys try to debate me on). COURT DISMISSED !

  11. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    And I never said that I agreed with the monthly or weekly injections.
    You certainly took up for your cohorts did you not? and they said once per week works best....and for that matter "the creator guy" said once per month or bi-monthly was best. Soooooo.....yeah you kinda did say that in a roundabouts way when you horned in on their behalf...

  12. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    You guys are found guilty of copping out as well as randomly harassing me and debating everything I say....despite the fact I am always correct (not always always, but always in regards to the stuff you guys try to debate me on). COURT DISMISSED !
    I think you're growing on me...kinda like mold.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    You certainly took up for your cohorts did you not? and they said once per week works best....and for that matter "the creator guy" said once per month or bi-monthly was best. Soooooo.....yeah you kinda did say that in a roundabouts way when you horned in on their behalf...
    No I said right from the beginning whether or not weekly injections or eod injections are better is not my point. Go back and read my post. I have my own opinions. Like I said to you I would personally do 2x per week if it were me.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    I think you're growing on me...kinda like mold.
    The fungus amongus? lol

  15. So would it be fair to say we both made some points and some miscommunications?? LOL

  16. Should we leave it at that?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    Should we leave it at that?
    Sure, why not. I'm still gonna correct any "misinformations" I see though

  18. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    Sure, why not. I'm still gonna correct any "misinformations" I see though
    Oh and don't you worry I'll be doing exactly the same with anyone misusing any "definitions" of words from the Websters Dictionary.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    Oh and don't you worry I'll be doing exactly the same with anyone misusing any "definitions" of words from the Websters Dictionary.
    Does anybody actually use Sustanon by Organon anymore? If not, then the UG formulations were definitely "designed" for the use that I detailed in this very discussion....oooh! gotcha there! lol That being said I used Karachi sust back in the day, and we never injected once per week either, no matter what "that guy who created it" said. I guess the best thing to say would be "kids today!"......" or "Kids today, using design ideas from when they weren't even born!" lol ok I'll stop now....

  20. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    Does anybody actually use Sustanon by Organon anymore? If not, then the UG formulations were definitely "designed" for the use that I detailed in this very discussion....oooh! gotcha there! lol That being said I used Karachi sust back in the day, and we never injected once per week either, no matter what "that guy who created it" said. I guess the best thing to say would be "kids today!"......" or "Kids today, using design ideas from when they weren't even born!" lol ok I'll stop now....
    Ok very good points...Now you need to download an online dictionary to your ipad. Alright I will stop now goodnight.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post

    Ok very good points...Now you need to download an online dictionary to your ipad. Alright I will stop now goodnight.
    I wish I had an iPad! I have an I touch and a droid and a MacBook and a PC laptop....I could download it on one of those... Or perhaps not. Sleep tight, don't let the bedbugs bite!

  22. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post

    Ok very good points...Now you need to download an online dictionary to your ipad. Alright I will stop now goodnight.
    Lol my god...started with best use of sustanon and somehow got diluted to websters dictionary. Vida, your desperation for an inkling of pull in this argument is amusing, and that's probably a nice word to use. Just give it up man, anabolic knows what the **** he is talking about. And with all your talk of using sus once a week, It seems you're no PA. Or ****ing Webster for that matter.

  23. I have no idea how this conversation got to this point. Sus has prop in it, short acting ester which needs to be Injected EOD at the outside to maintain stable blood levels. Once a week dosing is effing stupid way to run sust. You will never get stable blood levels injecting once a week. Talk about a hormonal roller coaster. For some people to quickly say others need to research I've seen a severe lack of knowledge to back themselves up. Anabolicholic your absolutely right man I agree 100%

  24. For some reason there is a small contingent of posters who feel the need to be contrary to whatever i post....despite the fact they are 100% wrong. either that or they truly believe what they post? if so....God help them

  25. Why then did they create suston? I mean a pharmaceutical company developed a test mix that hasto be shot eod. It has short to long esters to give even blood levels with once every 8 days dosing. Have you read the profile for sustanon?

  26. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    Does anybody actually use Sustanon by Organon anymore? If not, then the UG formulations were definitely "designed" for the use that I detailed in this very discussion....oooh! gotcha there! lol That being said I used Karachi sust back in the day, and we never injected once per week either, no matter what "that guy who created it" said. I guess the best thing to say would be "kids today!"......" or "Kids today, using design ideas from when they weren't even born!" lol ok I'll stop now....

    Just my $.02 here: If a product is designed to do one thing but is found to work in another area, it was still designed for the original use but adopted for use in the other way. That is all.
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by stephenj37826 View Post
    Why then did they create suston? I mean a pharmaceutical company developed a test mix that hasto be shot eod. It has short to long esters to give even blood levels with once every 8 days dosing. Have you read the profile for sustanon?
    As vida pointed out it was created as a trt drug to be pinned every 3 weeks or whatever it is but we don't use it for its original purpose, we use it as a steroid and as such dosing is different than trt.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post

    As vida pointed out it was created as a trt drug to be pinned every 3 weeks or whatever it is but we don't use it for its original purpose, we use it as a steroid and as such dosing is different than trt.
    It's best just to nod your head and not even acknowledge this nonsense anymore let them think they "got the last word" or think they were "right".

  29. This was an amusing argument. Lol and it all started with talk about sust... Lol it's a great product when used correctly and dosed properly. I use it all the time. I really enjoy the gains I get from it. I stack my other supps and i haven't had a problem yet.

  30. I've used Sus up to 750 mg and once every 8 days I had no " test flu" like when dosing twice per week.
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