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    Hey guys I'm starting to plan out my July cycle. I'm thinking SD-10 by LGI. This will be the third time in the past 6 years that I will have ran super. I have had good success in the past but would like to stack it with a test base and possibly bridge it into some epi. I'm looking for some ideas from you guys on both a good test base (thinking of rs transaderm) and also how to set up the dosing for the bridge.

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    I really didn't like that brand of superdrol but I'm biased towards the beast
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    The only reason I through out that brand is because I have 2 bottles sitting waiting. I haven't used LGI superdrol yet, what was it you didn't like about it (if its garbage I won't take it). I would gladly try beastdrol but with the last ban I'm out of luck. Anything that you would recommend to run instead that would yeild similar results? Thoughts on a test base product?
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    Quote Originally Posted by goat23 View Post
    I really didn't like that brand of superdrol but I'm biased towards the beast
    Why don't you like LGI? Reputable brand and haven't seen a bad review on SD-10 yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccp View Post
    The only reason I through out that brand is because I have 2 bottles sitting waiting. I haven't used LGI superdrol yet, what was it you didn't like about it (if its garbage I won't take it). I would gladly try beastdrol but with the last ban I'm out of luck. Anything that you would recommend to run instead that would yeild similar results? Thoughts on a test base product?
    Stick with LGI, very reputable company.
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    Lgi is a reputable company. Haven't got anything bunk or heard anything neg about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    Lgi is a reputable company. Haven't got anything bunk or heard anything neg about them.
    Agree here. Currently running Stano 200 with hdrol and feel great
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    Cool I'll stick to the SD-10. What are some thoughts on bridging to epi 2a,3a by vital labs? I'm not stuck on that idea just a thought. Any advice for the best test base? I usually run stano for lethargy but not sure is it is the best fit for this cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccp View Post
    Cool I'll stick to the SD-10. What are some thoughts on bridging to epi 2a,3a by vital labs? I'm not stuck on that idea just a thought. Any advice for the best test base? I usually run stano for lethargy but not sure is it is the best fit for this cycle.
    If you are set on doing a bridge I would make sure to run some tudca since they are both methyl's. I know Stano isn't exactly a test base but it has helped with some of the lethargy that I experienced my first time around with hdrol.
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    Good call on the extra support! I'm hoping LGI comes out with Damage Control by July .... Problem solved!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccp View Post
    Good call on the extra support! I'm hoping LGI comes out with Damage Control by July .... Problem solved!
    Yeah I learned a lot from my first cycle. And proper supports and preparation for the cycle is always a good thing. Yeah I definitely want to hit up some LGI Damage Control when it comes out for sure.
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    If I decide to bridge to epi would this be legit?

    SD----- 20/20/20/0
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    Test base?

    Advanced cycle support/ extra liver supports 2 week pre load/ during cycle/ post cycle

    Post cycle
    Nolva - 20/20/10/10
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    DAA - 3/3/3/3/3/3grams
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    Quote Originally Posted by gymguy21 View Post

    Agree here. Currently running Stano 200 with hdrol and feel great
    I'm running this same exact stack in July both from lgi but also adding some lean cuts :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccp View Post
    If I decide to bridge to epi would this be legit?

    SD----- 20/20/20/0
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    Test base?

    Advanced cycle support/ extra liver supports 2 week pre load/ during cycle/ post cycle

    Post cycle
    Nolva - 20/20/10/10
    Erase - 00/00/75/75/75/75
    DAA - 3/3/3/3/3/3grams
    I wouldn't bridge. You can run what I ran in the winter.
    Sd-20-20-20-20
    Stano-800/800/1000/1000/1000/1000/1200/1200
    One of the best cycles I've ran.

    Also there's good results on running sd at 10mg for 6 weeks. Just a suggestion there. I've never personally done it but I might in the future.
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    That does look nice.... I love how I feel on stano. I do have LGI Stano on had as well so this would be an easy set up. Anybody else want to throw out some options?
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    I wouldn't bridge. You can run what I ran in the winter.
    Sd-20-20-20-20
    Stano-800/800/1000/1000/1000/1000/1200/1200
    One of the best cycles I've ran.
    This cycle setup looks pretty solid and is along the same lines as my fall bulk cycle layout that I was thinking about.
    Just curious what your gains were like with this setup
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccp View Post
    That does look nice.... I love how I feel on stano. I do have LGI Stano on had as well so this would be an easy set up. Anybody else want to throw out some options?
    It sure does lol. Go for it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gymguy21 View Post

    This cycle setup looks pretty solid and is along the same lines as my fall bulk cycle layout that I was thinking about.
    Just curious what your gains were like with this setup
    I loved it. Hardly got any lethargy too. I don't remember exactly, but it was around 17lbs and i kept 12lbs during and after pct. I started at 178lbs and went up to 190 and stood at 190 through pct and all winter. I'm cutting now and im at 184 with a lot more solid muscle. In July going with H-Drol, lean cuts, and stano :-) for a lean summer cut
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    Not knocking lgi!! Lol I'm on their alpha 1 but I've had better results off different sd such as beast and brute,I still gained but just at a slower pace saying that it could of been a number of differing factors.only way to know mate is to give her a whirl : ) everyone responds differently
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    I wouldn't bridge. You can run what I ran in the winter.
    Sd-20-20-20-20
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    One of the best cycles I've ran.

    Also there's good results on running sd at 10mg for 6 weeks. Just a suggestion there. I've never personally done it but I might in the future.
    When you run stano that high how do you dose it? I've only ran up to 800 and I have just spread it out through the day. Sounds like I'm missing out on some magic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccp View Post

    When you run stano that high how do you dose it? I've only ran up to 800 and I have just spread it out through the day. Sounds like I'm missing out on some magic.
    I just dose 400mgs in the AM and 600mgs with my pre-workout dose. And when I up to 1200 mgs per day it'll be 600 mgs Am and 600 mgs pre-workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccp View Post

    When you run stano that high how do you dose it? I've only ran up to 800 and I have just spread it out through the day. Sounds like I'm missing out on some magic.
    For ex;
    400mg am 400mg pre workout
    400mg am 600mg pre workout
    400mg am 200mg 4 hours later and 600mg pre workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    For ex;
    400mg am 400mg pre workout
    400mg am 600mg pre workout
    400mg am 200mg 4 hours later and 600mg pre workout.
    I might have to try this out next week when I go to 1200mg per day
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    I like it. Thanks for the info!! I think I'll run it the same way you did, hell I already have the stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccp View Post
    I like it. Thanks for the info!! I think I'll run it the same way you did, hell I already have the stuff!
    No problem buddy. Anytime. You going to love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    I wouldn't bridge. You can run what I ran in the winter.
    Sd-20-20-20-20
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    One of the best cycles I've ran.

    Also there's good results on running sd at 10mg for 6 weeks. Just a suggestion there. I've never personally done it but I might in the future.
    So I'm planning on the above stack in July. I just noticed that the planet has the new dermacrine. What do you guys think about throwing this in to the mix? Too much? Or super cool?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccp View Post

    So I'm planning on the above stack in July. I just noticed that the planet has the new dermacrine. What do you guys think about throwing this in to the mix? Too much? Or super cool?
    I would say if you want to run dermacrine then you wouldn't necessarily need to run stano. Its up to you, I'm loving Stano right now at 1g. I haven't personally run dermacrine but heard it good for lethargy as well.
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    That's kind of what I was thinking too. But with the way dermacrine converts, I was wondering if it would add more of test base feel along the DHT feel from stano. Does that make any sense or am I just making s**t up now?
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    Halfhuman, any thoughts on adding the dermacine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccp View Post
    That's kind of what I was thinking too. But with the way dermacrine converts, I was wondering if it would add more of test base feel along the DHT feel from stano. Does that make any sense or am I just making s**t up now?
    I would say run one or the other. But I don't have any experience with dermacrine just Stano.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccp View Post
    Halfhuman, any thoughts on adding the dermacine?
    I wouldn't use both. No need to. To me I love stano, it keeps energy levels up and it dries you out nicely. If you have the funds go ahead and buy it for a future run. Ik If I have extra funds I always buy ahead.

    Dermacrine is good too lol. I'll go with stano.
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    Thanks for the advice. I think I will buy a couple bottles and run it with some PMAG or something someday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goat23 View Post
    I really didn't like that brand of superdrol but I'm biased towards the beast
    Fcuk a beastdrol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccp View Post
    If I decide to bridge to epi would this be legit?

    SD----- 20/20/20/0
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    Test base?

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    Nolva - 20/20/10/10
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    DAA - 3/3/3/3/3/3grams

    Better would be 4 weeks of epi @ 50mg bridged with 30mg of Sd for 2-3 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gymguy21 View Post

    I would say if you want to run dermacrine then you wouldn't necessarily need to run stano. Its up to you, I'm loving Stano right now at 1g. I haven't personally run dermacrine but heard it good for lethargy as well.
    Dermacrine sucks.

    Ephedra works best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    I wouldn't bridge. You can run what I ran in the winter.
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    One of the best cycles I've ran.

    Also there's good results on running sd at 10mg for 6 weeks. Just a suggestion there. I've never personally done it but I might in the future.
    Both good recommendations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    Both good recommendations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    3 weeks of epi is stupid.

    Better would be 4 weeks of epi @ 50mg bridged with 30mg of Sd for 2-3 weeks.
    I had 4 weeks in there with the overlap....... But doesn't matter. That idea is out and halfhuman's cycle is in. What don't you like about dermacrine? I have never ran it but I have read a lot about how people love it. I am definitely sticking with stano for this run but your opinion will be heard for future cycles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccp View Post

    I had 4 weeks in there with the overlap....... But doesn't matter. That idea is out and halfhuman's cycle is in. What don't you like about dermacrine? I have never ran it but I have read a lot about how people love it. I am definitely sticking with stano for this run but your opinion will be heard for future cycles.
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