Newbie's First Ever Helladrol Cycle Critique Please :D!

mudkip777

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Pre-Load
Week 1-2 C.E.L Cycle Assist Cycle Assist (Liver Support)
Creatine Monohydrate (Need 2 wks to Load my body responds to this)

Cycle
Week 3-9: Helladrol 75/75/100/100/125/125
Week 3-9: 3x PES Erase (Anti-Estrogen)
Week 3-9: 5x n2guard (Liver Support)

PCT
Week 10-14: 3x BioForge (Natural Test-Booster)
Week 10-14: 3x PES Erase (Anti-Estrogen)
Week 10-14: 3x Lean Xtreme (Cortisol Control)
Week 10-14 C.E.L Cycle Assist (Liver Support)

---->OFF CYCLE 10 WEEKS?<----

Supplements used throughout
Creatine Monohydrate Micronized (CreaPure)
“Flexible” Joint Support (MSM, GLuco, Chondro, Hyaluro, Ciscuss)
Controlled Labs Orange OxiMega Fish Oil
Dymatize ISO-100 Whey Protein
Intra-Workout Scivation Xtend
Tuarine? (Do I need this? n2guard has it inside)
Multivitamin (Would this cause an overdose over the other supps?)
Saw Palmetto Berries (Prevent Hairloss?)

Stats
24 years old, 185LBS @ 15%, 5'10', Lean/Jacked, Training for 5 years seriously, Bench285/Dead405/Squat315
Only took natural testosterone boosters (BioForge) which didn't do much...never tried Pro Hormone
I don't have Gyno but I am prone to it (Man Boobs)
I am prone to baldness (don't care though i would shave it off for bodybuilding)

Goal
Try a not so strong Pro Hormone with the lowest side effects such as Helladrol just to start with
Keep costs low as I'm in college :|
Lean mass gains

Questions
1. How does everything look? should i change anything? does Helladrol have the lowest side effects?
2. Do I need a SERM? why would I need a SERM if i'm already using PES Erase anti-estrogen (prevents man boobs) and is cheaper?
 
gkulek

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No serm no cycle just being honest plus ur prone to gyno I don't know why u wouldn't want too for sure use one ?

Either nolvadex 20/20/10/10
Or torem 120/90/60/30
 

mudkip777

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No serm no cycle just being honest plus ur prone to gyno I don't know why u wouldn't want too for sure use one ?

Either nolvadex 20/20/10/10
Or torem 120/90/60/30
Thanks brah

But won't that cause severe joint pain having low estrogen though? just PES Erase alone causes minor joint pain from lowered estrogen.
 
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Switch ur multi to orange triad, wonderful joint formula or use animal flex. Make sure to double up on fish oils. Also I am using my erase post cycle not during, but I'm using epi which can reduce estrogen any how so im not worried
 
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The serm pretty much jumpstarts your balls,so why risk recovery. Also if money is a problem, nolva plus daa would be sufficient enough for a good pct for h drol. As for the creatine,I like using it pct to help maintain my gai s.
 
BlumpkinKing

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I just finished a 100 mg a day cycle of halo, by the 6th week I was on complete shutdown. That nolvadex is really needed, depends on your body but I would save the mono hydrate until pct, it's been doing wonders for me so far
 

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As mentioned above, no serm no cycle. Get clomid or nolva or torem before starting your cycle.
Good luck.
 
goat23

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Serm bro we all saying it,use nolv 4 weeks 20/20/10/10 then 2 weeks of erase and I'd switch the bioforge(I've used it) into your cycle as its got fadogia agrestis which keeps your boys working and prevents shutdown and as mentioned daa for pct.n2 guard is great
 

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