Best ph as a test base ?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by OnionKnight View Post
    what would be the difference between dermacrine and transaderm? if you say company, ill internet slap you silly
    well it was the old dermacrine and it was mainly the carrier....dermacrine was mess and a big glob, also didn't absord very well..it was ok for lethargy but not much more....transderm was a smaller amount of lotion and absorbed better, it was better for lethargy but also for mood and seemed to enhance the benefits of the cycle
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post

    The advantage to this is that Test has to go through the aromatization process to generate both estrogen AND dht...with this you only get DHT and thus it does not aromatize and cause unwanted bloating, and DHT itself is an aromataze inhibitor per say.
    Exactly
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by OnionKnight View Post
    what would be the difference between dermacrine and transaderm? if you say company, ill internet slap you silly
    How about PRICE? honestly considering that dermacrine looks more appealing to me

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post

    well it was the old dermacrine and it was mainly the carrier....dermacrine was mess and a big glob, also didn't absord very well..it was ok for lethargy but not much more....transderm was a smaller amount of lotion and absorbed better, it was better for lethargy but also for mood and seemed to enhance the benefits of the cycle
    ok thats a good argument lol. idk about it now, but it did used to lather all over like rubbing sperm on your body or somethin

  5. Quote Originally Posted by OnionKnight View Post
    rubbing sperm on your body
    Lol, do not want.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Gym4Life View Post

    i prefer phs over ugl labs
    Definitely the first time I've ever heard this, but to each their own.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gym4Life View Post

    And I prefer superdrol over dbol or anadrol ....

    I too am a big fan of superdrol, however if you think it is a ph you are terribly misinformed.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by druller655321 View Post

    Definitely the first time I've ever heard this, but to each their own.

    I too am a big fan of superdrol, however if you think it is a ph you are terribly misinformed.
    Yes mate your correct and I know it's a fully active steroid the same as epistane ...

    However as for the I prefer phs to real gear well dbol and anadrol are all just bloat and water weight ...

    And anavar and winstrol good for cutting but the muscle gain isn't brilliant compared with Epi or superdrol ....

    And as for tbol I haven't used that but for the price I think is rather just run superdrol and get better gains ...

  8. Not to sound stupid everyone but talking about test bases and 4ad being the best doesn't m1t actually convert to test ??? And isn't it stronger ???

    Allthough I know you couldn't run it as a base but as a single cycle.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Gym4Life View Post
    Not to sound stupid everyone but talking about test bases and 4ad being the best doesn't m1t actually convert to test ??? And isn't it stronger ???

    Allthough I know you couldn't run it as a base but as a single cycle.
    Thought it converted to 1-Testosterone, that's one of those hard components like SD and Phera that everyone loves lol...don't know much about it's conversions in the body though.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by OnionKnight View Post
    ok thats a good argument lol. idk about it now, but it did used to lather all over like rubbing sperm on your body or somethin
    This is not true about the current version of Dermacrine. I got mine yesterday, applied it right away and it dried up immediately. I was happily surprised, it doesn't smell either.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    None of them are 4-AD they are DHEA. He has an old post in another forum pimping it with great detail and love, the thing is...RS Transderm is not around anymore AFAIK and he might have loved it or repped for it, but for now Dermacrine is the best topical DHEA and AMS 4-AD is the most trust worthy source of good conversion 4-AD.
    Man AMS 4-AD is not bad but the dosing is all jacked up last time I ran it I had to shoot this liquid under my tongue like 10 times a day walking around for 10min at a time trying to keep it there so I got the most out of it I could....cost was about an arm and a leg but I really had zero sides from the other PH's I was using by doing this and it was one hell of a long cycle...

  12. Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post
    Man AMS 4-AD is not bad but the dosing is all jacked up last time I ran it I had to shoot this liquid under my tongue like 10 times a day walking around for 10min at a time trying to keep it there so I got the most out of it I could....cost was about an arm and a leg but I really had zero sides from the other PH's I was using by doing this and it was one hell of a long cycle...
    AMS now makes it in a sublingual tablet brother and I do recommend their products a lot, quality people and damn nice products indeed. The dosages can now be separated every 6-8 hours and the conversion to test is about 30% more now.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Gym4Life View Post
    Not to sound stupid everyone but talking about test bases and 4ad being the best doesn't m1t actually convert to test ??? And isn't it stronger ???

    Allthough I know you couldn't run it as a base but as a single cycle.
    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Thought it converted to 1-Testosterone, that's one of those hard components like SD and Phera that everyone loves lol...don't know much about it's conversions in the body though.
    It doesn't convert into anything, it already is a steroid......It is Methylated 1-Testosterone.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    It doesn't convert into anything, it already is a steroid......It is Methylated 1-Testosterone.
    What I meant (and I made a mistake I;m sorry) is that it is 1-Testosterone , the methylation is so it is orally active and it can be synthesized (though damaging) through the liver...
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    What I meant (and I made a mistake I;m sorry) is that it is 1-Testosterone , the methylation is so it is orally active and it can be synthesized (though damaging) through the liver...
    I was wondering why you were making such a rookie mistake. ..

  16. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    I was wondering why you were making such a rookie mistake. ..
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    i always recommend 4ad like BULK UP and RS-Transaderm.....dermacrine would be the last resort

    but one of these is def nice to have during an oral only cycle
    interesting..derma as a last resort to a new questionable 4ad thats pretty new and a derma rip off that costs about 4 times as much as derma? wow, no offense but any hidden agenda there?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by antknee02 View Post
    interesting..derma as a last resort to a new questionable 4ad thats pretty new and a derma rip off that costs about 4 times as much as derma? wow, no offense but any hidden agenda there?
    transaderm is sooo over priced it isnt funny..comes out and its about $40.00 - Derma is gone so lets tout this as test replacement, put a new lable on it and jack the price over $200.00 .

  19. I stacked AMS 1-AD and 4-AD and the energy, strength, and libido were crazy. Didn't gain much if any mass but strength went up and it was a feel-good stack definitely. Judgeing from this I'd use it like a test base

  20. Quote Originally Posted by antknee02 View Post
    transaderm is sooo over priced it isnt funny..comes out and its about $40.00 - Derma is gone so lets tout this as test replacement, put a new lable on it and jack the price over $200.00 .
    Yeah even I, being affiliated with a sister company, totally agree with you and have had major issue with those tactics.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by daft205 View Post
    Yeah even I, being affiliated with a sister company, totally agree with you and have had major issue with those tactics.
    thats refreshing, man

  22. Quote Originally Posted by antknee02 View Post

    transaderm is sooo over priced it isnt funny..comes out and its about $40.00 - Derma is gone so lets tout this as test replacement, put a new lable on it and jack the price over $200.00 .
    he already addressed that comment. its because old derma used to be a sloppy mess, and he used to rep for needto (aparently). if you look closely though, transaderm has twice as many servings compared to derma. so when it was bogo, which was like once a year, it tied for price lol

    not backing transadem, i hate needto. just felt that it had to be said

  23. Quote Originally Posted by OnionKnight View Post
    he already addressed that comment. its because old derma used to be a sloppy mess, and he used to rep for needto (aparently). if you look closely though, transaderm has twice as many servings compared to derma. so when it was bogo, which was like once a year, it tied for price lol

    not backing transadem, i hate needto. just felt that it had to be said
    sorry, i didnt see that addressed, my bad. even so, the new derma had/ has a good carrier and even at a BOGO it stilll looks like price gouging..anyway ive used both and while i liked transaderm for the carrier, it just didnt do anything to merit that giant price increase. that was one reason i stopped buying his stuff and even checking boards re: any of his products..

    sorry to side track the thread..ill stop now, lol

  24. Quote Originally Posted by OnionKnight View Post

    he already addressed that comment. its because old derma used to be a sloppy mess, and he used to rep for needto (aparently). if you look closely though, transaderm has twice as many servings compared to derma. so when it was bogo, which was like once a year, it tied for price lol

    not backing transadem, i hate needto. just felt that it had to be said
    He still reps needto.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    He still reps needto.
    I'm really starting to dislike needto I have ran into their reps on other boards trying to push some of their crap over hcg and SERMs saying all you need is (insert anything they sell)..

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