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  1. Oh and you will want to research pramipexole if you run this dose..
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    No, it isn't
    okay good, any thoughts on the estra-4,, people are telling me ill have limp dick if i dont stack it but i cant see that happening at a low does
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post
    Not the same and I would not run that at less then 100-120 mg a day. At 150 it is working well for me. You will want to run something like 4ad if you want to retain libido.
    my label is 15mg two times a day i know thats low but would I have a shut down with that low a dose

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  5. Quote Originally Posted by flamini View Post
    my label is 15mg two times a day i know thats low but would I have a shut down with that low a dose
    If you want to gain muscle expect suppresion, and the limp dick is why you need 4ad.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post

    If you want to gain muscle expect suppresion, and the limp dick is why you need 4ad.
    I understand , do u think sch a low does of 30 mg a day will cause limp ? I'm not looking for muscle I'm looking to maintain mYbe gain 2-3 and shred down hard on a clean diet an cardio ... I'm running a low low dose

  7. estra-4 and 6oxo combo save my libido ?

  8. want to save your libido? run testosterone.

    I didn't think it could be so important. but even while using trenadione @ 120mg e/d, my libido and sex has been better than ever.

    and the tren is causing sides, I'm stopping due to swelling in my right nipple, and started letro yesterday. I have 1 maybe 2 more test e injections, so hoping the mast/epi/letro will take care of it.
    trying to save my inhibit p for pct.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    want to save your libido? run testosterone.

    I didn't think it could be so important. but even while using trenadione @ 120mg e/d, my libido and sex has been better than ever.

    and the tren is causing sides, I'm stopping due to swelling in my right nipple, and started letro yesterday. I have 1 maybe 2 more test e injections, so hoping the mast/epi/letro will take care of it.
    trying to save my inhibit p for pct.
    I just think that the tren I'm runnin doesn't compare to the injected tren and I'm runnin so low ... Test base is a good idea but for first cycle I wanna stick to one compound and keep the cycle short . Second time around ill def run a test base

  10. Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post

    as everybody has said, you are correct. its definitely not the same as injected tren. and in my honest opinion 30mg of trenavar is just a waist of money.
    Okay cool, and really ? I'm not looking for huge gains just a few pounds cuz it's my first cycle and I'm worries about sides. Idc If I get sides it's just I wanna see how my body responds so I know what I can handle

  11. Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post

    i hear you. you'll probably end up increasing the dose before you're done though. most think 90mg and up is the effective dose. harbonah said he likes 150. so the general consensus is that it needs to be dosed fairly high. but, try it and see. maybe you wont need as much..
    Okay thanks ! Well see how it goes

  12. Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post
    i hear you. you'll probably end up increasing the dose before you're done though. most think 90mg and up is the effective dose. harbonah said he likes 150. so the general consensus is that it needs to be dosed fairly high. but, try it and see. maybe you wont need as much..
    Yes, to have results anywhere near real Tren ace you need to push the dose up over 120m. 150mg is where I landed at 225. Lower the body weight the lower that dose might be to some extent but I would still assume it to be much much higher then 30mg try 90 it might fit for someone your size better? And as jbryand said Test the only other option is a Test ph like 4ad. Inhibit-p might be worth looking into also for you but you would have to ask jbryand more about that one.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post

    Yes, to have results anywhere near real Tren ace you need to push the dose up over 120m. 150mg is where I landed at 225. Lower the body weight the lower that dose might be to some extent but I would still assume it to be much much higher then 30mg try 90 it might fit for someone your size better? And as jbryand said Test the only other option is a Test ph like 4ad. Inhibit-p might be worth looking into also for you but you would have to ask jbryand more about that one.
    Yeah I'm 145 pounds an never ran anything , I'm takig about 3200 cals , and I'm almost 23 and have never run a ph before, from my own research I've found that your body is most responsive and sensitive the first time u take a ph so I'm thinking being as light as I am that lower dose will hopefully have some effect , idk if I'm comfortable stacking yet , I rather deal with the libido then stack 4ad ... 3-5 weeks ill live without a high sexual desire haha. and I've looked into inhibit-p I like the looks of it, I'm using 6oxo directly after cycle with my post as an extra boost to help keep what I gain

  14. I've been running 120mg for 4 weeks.

    When I went to 150mg, that was when I was like, whoa.
    But that also started the sensitivity in my right nipp which I have to deal with now.

    Trenadione/fura would be the.most effective combo I think, but also most expensive.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    I've been running 120mg for 4 weeks.

    When I went to 150mg, that was when I was like, whoa.
    But that also started the sensitivity in my right nipp which I have to deal with now.

    Trenadione/fura would be the.most effective combo I think, but also most expensive.
    Yeah I'm enjoying 150! What were you running for an AI?
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post

    Yeah I'm enjoying 150! What were you running for an AI?
    Nothing. Now letro.

  17. how is methoxy tst as far as oral tren goes? i have two bottles i'm gonna run with some epi at some point. goal will be either cut or recomp.

  18. i'm worried about jbry's titties

  19. Quote Originally Posted by johnnybeegood View Post
    i'm worried about jbry's titties
    me too. selling the remaining celtitren/epi on ebay, as it's just gotten worse, even with just epi.

    ordered another bottle of letro to continue running for a while. fcuking trenadione/epistane. knew I should of stuck with winstrol.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by johnnybeegood View Post
    how is methoxy tst as far as oral tren goes? i have two bottles i'm gonna run with some epi at some point. goal will be either cut or recomp.
    will you guys be calling me sweet tits soon?

  21. Quote Originally Posted by johnnybeegood View Post

    will you guys be calling me sweet tits soon?
    Prob not.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Prob not.
    i'm experiencing mixed emotions right about now

  23. Quote Originally Posted by johnnybeegood View Post
    how is methoxy tst as far as oral tren goes? i have two bottles i'm gonna run with some epi at some point. goal will be either cut or recomp.
    I never ran tst or txt but I was fortunate enough to love me some trenadrol by kilo

    here is the deal.. the OG was methyl tren and was funkin viscious. the later versions may have been regular capped trenbolone (yes its orally bio available)

    hands down the best (and worst) oral ever. the sides were flat out obnoxious. the strength gains were simply out of this world. literally added 100 lbs to my bench in 4 weeks on the OG stuff. but by week 4 I felt like death. and my liver and kidneys are still mad about that run.

    use this stuff for a winter bulk. try triumphalis, 3bepiandro, 11kt, or epi for recomp and diet needs.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by xR1pp3Rx View Post

    I never ran tst or txt but I was fortunate enough to love me some trenadrol by kilo

    here is the deal.. the OG was methyl tren and was funkin viscious. the later versions may have been regular capped trenbolone (yes its orally bio available)

    hands down the best (and worst) oral ever. the sides were flat out obnoxious. the strength gains were simply out of this world. literally added 100 lbs to my bench in 4 weeks on the OG stuff. but by week 4 I felt like death. and my liver and kidneys are still mad about that run.

    use this stuff for a winter bulk. try triumphalis, 3bepiandro, 11kt, or epi for recomp and diet needs.
    Everyone is talking about triumphalis is it really that good ?

  25. Quote Originally Posted by flamini View Post
    Everyone is talking about triumphalis is it really that good ?
    its at least as good as epi for cutting. I cant tell you its better as everyone is different.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by xR1pp3Rx View Post
    I never ran tst or txt but I was fortunate enough to love me some trenadrol by kilo

    here is the deal.. the OG was methyl tren and was funkin viscious. the later versions may have been regular capped trenbolone (yes its orally bio available)

    hands down the best (and worst) oral ever. the sides were flat out obnoxious. the strength gains were simply out of this world. literally added 100 lbs to my bench in 4 weeks on the OG stuff. but by week 4 I felt like death. and my liver and kidneys are still mad about that run.

    use this stuff for a winter bulk. try triumphalis, 3bepiandro, 11kt, or epi for recomp and diet needs.
    I know you have been around a while but 100lbs on your bench in 4 weeks? There has to be more to the story here. So I can jump from 385 to 485 in a month what is this the **** they gave captain America?
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by xR1pp3Rx View Post
    its at least as good as epi for cutting. I cant tell you its better as everyone is different.
    This stuff is starting to sound like crack to me...its calling to me.
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post
    I know you have been around a while but 100lbs on your bench in 4 weeks? There has to be more to the story here. So I can jump from 385 to 485 in a month what is this the **** they gave captain America?
    I swear to god, it was like I could just keep putting plates on the bar. oh yeah and did I mention I put that kinda strength on while preforming GVT?!!! lol
    im telling you the OG trenadrol was hands down the strongest anything I have ever ingested.. including hard illicit stuff.
    TBH ive wanted moar ever since... nothing has ever come close to the strength I got from that one... phera was similar in the strength dept, got real strong on it too. but it was more subtle and took longer to develop.

    Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post
    This stuff is starting to sound like crack to me...its calling to me.
    its like epi on steroids..
    wait wat?
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  29. Does anyone know about Anobolic research Tren 75???
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